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 All About Badminton Equipment v2, Racket, Shoes, Grip, String, Cocks

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post Feb 2 2010, 06:20 PM

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I used to use Apacs NanoSpeed 9000, bought for RM100, quite light between 85-90g with string, but, broke it last week when racket clash cry.gif and it my last piece cry.gif (bought 2 last time), try to look for it, but, according to the shop, Apacs stop producing it anymore cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

The shop reconmend me either Apacs Nanospeed 9900 (which he claim similar to Apacs Nanospeed 9000), same price, or newer model Apacs Edge Saber Z Spark (which is clone of Yonex Edge Saber Z Slash) cost RM125 (both come with string, with grip, without bag). All the 3 rackets same weight, only diff Apacs Edge Saber Z Spark is bit head heavy, good for smashing. Finally bought Apacs Edge Saber Z Spark, cause it the newer model, price not much difference.

Tonight will try out Apacs Edge Saber Z Spark. Anyone use Apacs Edge Saber Z Spark? Any comment?

Overall, I would say Apacs racket is quite good (in term of play feel vs their price tag), but, dunno if all nowadays rackets quality is same or what, clash racket, chances are it will crack, clash bit hard, break into 2.
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post Feb 3 2010, 12:55 AM

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Thanks loneboy62. Of course Yonex Z and Apacs Z is will be world apart lar....one cost RM100 plus, another nearly cost RM1000, how to compare? shocking.gif Oso, based on my current skills and badminton kakis skills, not too risky lar buy expensive rackets, accident can happen, and when play less aggressive, safe, no fun. My badminton rackets all is within RM100 to RM150 rolleyes.gif

Actually, I got 1 question hmm.gif . Actually, how u guys decide which racket to buy? For my case, I usually bought when my current one break, which happen once in 2 to 3 years and I usually bought 2 same racket at once. Problem is, how to test out the racket? I yet to find any racket shop shakehead.gif provide money back guarantee, say if customer not happy if racket, he can exchange it with another one, provided within reasonable time and no scratch/ damage on the frame. And, most of my badminton kaki also like me, will only buy rackets when their current one spoilt.

So, unless I really lucky, my badminton kaki just bought racket, and my racket break at same time, then, then, I bought the similar model. Or else, most of time, I tested theirs, find it nice, next time when my racket break, theirout of production oledi.

So, frankly, even when I bought the Apacs Z it sort of gamble only....based on the shop (AJ Badminton btw) reconmendation. sweat.gif Too bad too I found this tread after I bought it doh.gif

Today, finally try out my new purchase, Apacs Z, so far, meet my expectation, only I think I string tension too high, usual I string 25 pounds, this time, ask the shop to string 26 pounds (he claim this rackets can string up to 35 pounds shocking.gif , crazy ah....frame not break, my hand break), so, elbow a bit sore, hope not old injury come back, tennis elbow cry.gif which make me stop completely play badminton for 2 months last time.

For a head heavy racket (for smashing purposes), it suprise me that even I retrieve smash or flick back, it quite "effortless" and "responsive", just like my trusted, old, now RIP APACS NS9000. Maybe I yet used to it, quite a number of mishit, dont hit the sweet spot, so, shuttle dont go where I want to go, but, if u hit the sweet spot, the shuttle flight is accurate to where u want to go, smash is effortless, due to thin frame (fragile? shocking.gif easy to break), and the sound, heheh....very nice... wub.gif close ur eyes, and u think it like pro, open ur eye, u curse urself asking why the opponent effortless flick back your smash....smash not hard enuf meh ptui....

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post Feb 3 2010, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(zdepth @ Feb 3 2010, 05:05 AM)
err... play badminton can get tennis elbow? damnnnn... if u guys play tennis then I think your wussy hand would break into two?
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Can, cause if tension string to high, stroke no good.

Fren, tennis and badminton are different game altogether and it plan rude for you to insult other badminton players here who might had the same injury as mine.

I got to admit that I get that injury due my incorrect technique hitting the shuttle. But, I can also give you 1001 reason why and how badminton games is tougher than tennis too but it will then show inmaturity handling this issues and soon escalates to arguement between why badminton is better than tennis or vice-versa.


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post Feb 3 2010, 11:41 PM

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shocking.gif huh.....clash with racket also can claim warranty? Wah not bad....Mr okk....no sure ur supplier give u such promo or not, last week when I bought my Apacs EdgeSaber Z ( mad.gif myself why didnt notice ur website sooner, or else, can save RM50) the shop told me Apacs give 3 months warranty, even if racket break due to own fault like racket clash, u need to pay 50% of replacement racket.


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post Feb 10 2010, 12:07 PM

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Added on February 10, 2010, 11:21 amMy friend broke his Apacs Nano9k (BG66 @ 26lbs) after a mishit on the frame. Broke at 9 o'clock. No clashes before, 3 months old.

got warranty?

tried enquiring at Apacs Msia website but canot send in the enquiry due to server issue
the 'Contact Us' column is for display only..not functioning at all
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Bring back the racket where it purchase? Usually the shop will help them to claim if confirm manufacturing defects.
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post Feb 17 2010, 03:58 PM

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Look like the string strung with too high tension to me hmm.gif But, 26 Lbs is not that high anyway.....If for really strung at 26Lbs (sorry, I dont mean not to trust you, but, sometimes, mistakes do happen), then, most likely it due to manufacturing defects, the structure is somehow crack internally during production, so, if shuttle direct hit that spot, that's it..

My personal experience, I clash racket, but, the racket seems ok, not even scratch, but, after few months, when the shuttle hit the exact spot, the racket broke exactly like the picture.
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post Aug 29 2010, 06:29 PM

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Hi all,

I am looking for badminton racquet similar to Apacs Nanospeed 9000 (of which unfortunately no longer in production cry.gif). The racquet I am looking for is head balance weight, 4U. I am a double player, my game more towards placement, cause my smash not that powerful. I do like to play a lot of defensive game and counter-attack mode too, i.e. opponent smash, I defense till opponent no energy to smash, or get my opponent move left right, to smash, till he got to lob back the shuttle for me to smash back. My budget around RM150. Any reconmendation? Thank you, thank you.

In addition, I am trying to let go my Apacs Edge Saber Z Spark too, I dont think it suit my playing style cause I found it bit head heavy, more suited for better, and aggressive player who got better power. Any taker? Pls PM me for details or click on my signature
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post Aug 30 2010, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Corrupted Spirits @ Aug 30 2010, 02:45 PM)
Your playing style sounds like me  laugh.gif

Maybe Yonex Nanospeed series? arc1414 sells quite cheap for those.. Top up RM 25 you can get Nanospeed 850 I think  smile.gif
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Yonex Nanospeed series, top up RM25 of my budget can get? brows.gif Sure boh? Yonex got so cheap one meh (I mean those reasonable quality one lar...)? I thought Yonex those reasonable quality (i.e. Apacs or whatever chap ayam brand cost slightly more RM100++) will cost at least RM300++

Now only I realise what sort of racquet I prefer, those head light one, coz all the while I dont know Nanospeed series is head light (Apacs Nanospeed 9000 = Yonex Nanospeed 9000 clone). No wonder I feel weird using Apacs Edge Saber Z Spark doh.gif ...All sifu, sifu, any reconmendation of head light, RM100 to RM150 budget?


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post Aug 31 2010, 12:57 AM

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The grommet definitely can change one....I changed few times oledi...usually the shop will change for you when u restring your racket. Some shop more cincai, consider part of stringing service charges (fyi, I know this shop, he is dealer for the string, he said string margin is more than 100%, why so expensive is because the skill and market rate, but unfortunately he bit moody one, open as he like, string when he like, so I dont go there anymore coz either go there he not open or he is not around/ leaving soon for his badminton session, always got to leave racket there for few days, only can collect back). Another shop, they charge me RM3.

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post Aug 31 2010, 02:04 AM

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I noticed that usually, the high-end racket, those more expensive one, usually suits those more advance players, as they tend to be harder to hit, harder to control, but, once you manage to master it, or you got some basics stroke, it will suits you well.

For those cheaper range rackets, it more forgiving for beginner. But, the disadvantages, for some advance players, they might tend to say "lack of power" in their games.

Any comments from sifus?
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post Sep 4 2010, 12:39 AM

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First, welcome to the game.

I will not suggest any good brand, cause I really dont know, different ppl suggest different brand. I will only share with you my experience of shoe I used before.

Yonex, I personally used one before, just a cheapo one, roughly RM100 plus, played twice a week, last me about little bit more than one year. The shoe still ok, only the lining (dunno what called, the one connect your shoe cloth/ leather with the rubber) start to peel off little bit, still can glued back if want to. My problem is I sweat a lot, sweat till shoe oso wet, so, smell, got to sun dried it, so, guess this is the problem, the shoe no grip liao, as if like roller blade in court.

Bata/ Power shoe, very cheap, RM50 got oledi. But, you what you pay is what you get. The sole, last me max 6 months only, then, again, start roller blade.

My current shoe, Apacs brand, cheapo one oso, less than RM100, but, got gel and thicker sole, so, sort of softer when jump and land. But, dunno is the shoe new or what (only 2 weeks old only), find bit hard.

Budget RM200 can can quite good shoe already, at least definitely got gel. Brand for this price, Asics, Victors, Yonex, yes, Li Ning, etc.

Off topic, found out got new badminton brand, everything oso got, racquet, shoe, shirts, socks, etc. Name Yone (yes, with the x), wording size, font, everything similar to Yonex. Logo, single Y, instead of double Y. Also, font, size, etc, very similar.


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post Sep 5 2010, 02:24 AM

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Hi,
Anyone know Apacs Nano series still in production? If not, what is the replacement? Thanks

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post Sep 5 2010, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 5 2010, 02:29 AM)
they are..there are some models which have a newer version
which model u looking for?
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I don't know. Looking for headlight or balance type, isometric frame (lousy player mar...need bigger frame, bigger sweet spot, less chance to hit frame blush.gif ) Used to use Apacs Nanospeed 9000, but, no longer in production. Budget RM100++. Any reconmendation?

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post Sep 5 2010, 03:50 AM

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Dunlop racquet? Sponsor Wong Choon Han? drool.gif flex.gif I am still shopping for opinion. I still got my Apacs Edge Saber which I tried to sold off, so, till I sold it off, or break it, no urgency (unless of course all sudden got windfall lar rclxm9.gif )

Apacs Nano 9900? I thought that production discontinued, shocking.gif the one in market is the last batch?
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post Sep 5 2010, 04:20 AM

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I don't know...but seems quite number of sellers out of stock for this model. Even if those who have, very limited quantity, maybe left one or two only.

Is it me only that when I found a racquet that I comfortable with, I will stick with it, broken, I will try to source for the same again, even if it obsolete model and got new, better technology model (as claimed by manufacturer). Therefore, nowadays, I prefer to ask the seller, I bought one first, if I find it nice, if I bought few more, do I get special discount or not.

That's why I found it very hard to buy new racquet, you cannot really test it out before buying, you buy based on what the seller claim, and once u bought, you got to stick with it even you found out that it not suit you, at least until it broke or sold it off (at loss).


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post Sep 5 2010, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(alan kc @ Sep 5 2010, 11:48 AM)
or u can go for apacs nanotec 900 power or technique

Thanks...will consider that too.


Added on September 5, 2010, 11:54 am
if like that how abt u be a shop kepper,then u borrow me d yonex arcsaber 100 limited edition,then i pay u 20
%???if i take it then i run away???
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I think, maybe the shopowner should sell you at full price, after 1 week, if you dislike, then, you return back, they refund back 80% of the amount you paid, provided the racquet still in good condition. So, no risk to customer runaway. If customer dislike, they can still sell it off, even at cheaper price.


Added on September 5, 2010, 1:57 pm
QUOTE(riz50 @ Sep 5 2010, 01:21 PM)
Hock Eng Sport Bangi can do trade in if u dun like the racket u bought from them.
must got receipt n good condition.
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Wish there is more shop offer such trade in. Bangi is bit too far for me to pay them a visit.


Added on September 5, 2010, 1:58 pm
QUOTE(bayanbaru @ Sep 5 2010, 01:25 PM)
here no Gosen kaki aaah?
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Gosen racquet now hard to find oledi...although no doubt it a good brand. My friend used to have one. I tried it before, quite nice.

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post Sep 5 2010, 05:57 PM

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I think Apacs is for the poor player like me...cheap..their top of range...only RM300++, and their average range RM100++...that's why I a fan of Apacs. But, disclaimer, since I never use other racquet before lately (the last non Apacs brand is Yonex Carbonex 15 which was 4 years ago), so, I cannot say about their quality though.

Agreed, RSL shuttle oso nowadays quality drop...but, according to the seller, the quality of shuttle depends on season, if the season in China is hot, then quality no good, if cool and wet (i.e. humid), then, ok.
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post Sep 5 2010, 06:26 PM

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Someone told me to prolong the shuttle quality, go steam the shuttle for 10 to 15 sec. Another fella, told me put in fridge.

Dunno true or not, anyone tried or heard before?
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post Sep 5 2010, 09:51 PM

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Puchong AJ....my personal opinion, a lot of variety, but, pricing-wise, maybe few ringgit to 20-30 ringgit more than those LYN seller. Oso, Puchong AJ, depends who you deal with, u deal with staff, no discount, u deal with the boss, boss's wife or boss's son, can talk talk a bit, got little bit of discount.

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