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 All About Badminton Equipment v2, Racket, Shoes, Grip, String, Cocks

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post Jun 12 2010, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(zero_hour @ Jun 12 2010, 07:22 PM)
we play with 2 hand right for smash and left for net play  laugh.gif
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Ya, time to bring some revolution to the badminton sport. . . nod.gif

It require a lot more skill to control 2 rackets, can play trick shot more also, opponent need to alert you will use left racket or right racket to hit the shuttlecock. . . biggrin.gif no more backhands weakness attack, now both side also become forehands, both side also can perform jumping smash. . . biggrin.gif

and string snap happen quite offen during the tournament, so now the chances will lose point when string snap can be reduce since you still got another racket to continue the game. . . flex.gif


Added on June 12, 2010, 11:37 pm
QUOTE(cartographer @ Jun 12 2010, 09:33 PM)
juz wanna ask ur opinion, is it right to say that only advanced and expert players with stronger wrist can control the shuttle very well even with a heavy racket? sorry i just beginner so wanna learn a bit from here  tongue.gif
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power is nothing without control. . . a female pro player can defeat a beginner male player easily although the male player got double the strength then the female player, get what I mean? but when skill level is around the same then strength is important, as you can notice the level gap between those world class female player and male player. . . and heavy racket is very subjective, for a strong guy your heavy racket could be not heavy enough for him. . .

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jun 12 2010, 10:33 PM)
im a head heavy user (Been using AT700,AT900p and now N90)
IMHO

People get mixed up with control, anyways what is control?

I don't find any difficulty at nets using a head heavy racket, the only major difference i find is that when using an Arcsaber10 and N90 I find it very hard to lift the shuttle high when returning smashes during doubles aggressive play using the N90 compared to Arcsaber10.

Trick shots that only require wrist motion also requires more effort compared to a lighter racket.

That's my conclusion =)


Added on June 12, 2010, 10:34 pmI lost in a Mens singles open today badly sad.gif I am very sad
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u tried zul's arc10 or u got ur own?

arc10 is easier to defense due to it being more balance..head heavy rackets move slower compared to even balanced and light head


Added on June 13, 2010, 1:17 am
QUOTE(Omage007 @ Jun 12 2010, 11:28 PM)
Ya, time to bring some revolution to the badminton sport. . .  nod.gif

It require a lot more skill to control 2 rackets, can play trick shot more also, opponent need to alert you will use left racket or right racket to hit the shuttlecock. . .  biggrin.gif  no more backhands weakness attack, now both side also become forehands, both side also can perform jumping smash. . .  biggrin.gif

and string snap happen quite offen during the tournament, so now the chances will lose point when string snap can be reduce since you still got another racket to continue the game. . .  flex.gif


Added on June 12, 2010, 11:37 pm
power is nothing without control. . .  a female pro player can defeat a beginner male player easily although the male player got double the strength then the female player, get what I mean?  but when skill level is around the same then strength is important, as you can notice the level gap between those world class female player and male player. . .  and heavy racket is very subjective, for a strong guy your heavy racket could be not heavy enough for him. . .
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it also depends on how heavy is the racket itself
a 2u at700 will make every strong guy cry lol

This post has been edited by ziggy87: Jun 13 2010, 01:17 AM
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post Jun 13 2010, 03:29 AM

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guy, if i dont like my string tension, i need to get a new string and restring?? cannot use back the same string??
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post Jun 13 2010, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Jun 13 2010, 01:12 AM)
master of trickshot tongue.gif

u tried zul's arc10 or u got ur own?

arc10 is easier to defense due to it being more balance..head heavy rackets move slower compared to even balanced and light head


Added on June 13, 2010, 1:17 am
it also depends on how heavy is the racket itself
a 2u at700 will make every strong guy cry lol
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I got my own but now i gave my gf already haha she likes the racket too
I got it earlier then zul =p

Ehh ziggy!!! I didnt know you balik kampung till i asked everyone where you went! Thought you were mad at me sad.gif
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 13 2010, 03:29 AM)
guy, if i dont like my string tension, i need to get a new string and restring?? cannot use back the same string??
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u nid to use a new string

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jun 13 2010, 09:55 AM)
I got my own but now i gave my gf already haha she likes the racket too
I got it earlier then zul =p

Ehh ziggy!!! I didnt know you balik kampung till i asked everyone where you went! Thought you were mad at me sad.gif
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lolz..sry ah din inform u
u din come for my last session..
i was hoping u will come, so i can say a proper goodbye

nah..y shud i be mad at u? no reason rite? haha
anyways, u were a fun guy to play with
always with those deception shots lol
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post Jun 13 2010, 02:57 PM

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Bro Ziggy,

Where usually u play badminton?
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post Jun 13 2010, 03:01 PM

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how to differentiate a fake protech and real protech shoes?
i just bought a protech shoes but i search the model around the net.nth found...is it fake?(should i return to the shop?)

model PTS 995
Color Red
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post Jun 13 2010, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 12 2010, 01:28 AM)
i heard that tension higher=smaller sweet spot because the sweet spot like concentrated in a small area so if u hit dead on the sweet spot, it generate more power than a lower tension who hit dead on the sweet spot. can any1 clarify this??
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any1 can clarify this?? if i use the tension too high until i cant handle, beside the racquet will vibrate after i hit the shuttle, any other symptom to indicate that??

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post Jun 13 2010, 10:29 PM

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is it true that bg80 string is nicer with high tension@25lbs+ ?
i want to try this string

bg80 users , what tension is the best??

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QUOTE(doublezul @ Jun 13 2010, 10:29 PM)
is it true that bg80 string is nicer with high tension@25lbs+ ?
i want to try this string

bg80 users , what tension is the best??
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It is your skill does matter lah; is it LinDan or LCW play what tension then you also can play that tension??????
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post Jun 13 2010, 11:19 PM

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Yes is the skills that really matter rclxs0.gif
Is not the equipment cost few bucks can make a better player nod.gif

QUOTE(Omage007 @ Jun 13 2010, 10:48 PM)
It is your skill does matter lah; is it LinDan or LCW play what tension then you also can play that tension??????
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Jun 13 2010, 02:13 PM)
u nid to use a new string
lolz..sry ah din inform u
u din come for my last session..
i was hoping u will come, so i can say a proper goodbye

nah..y shud i be mad at u? no reason rite? haha
anyways, u were a fun guy to play with
always with those deception shots lol
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HAHaha =D No worries!
Been playing singles lately at south quay with a few guys, haha im an underdog there =p


QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 13 2010, 09:41 PM)
any1 can clarify this?? if i use the tension too high until i cant handle, beside the racquet will vibrate after i hit the shuttle, any other symptom to indicate that??
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Ur arm will hurt after your game or maybe the next day wink.gif if not its alright! Some racket vibrates and some dont. if you are on a tight budget why not try apacs visible hollow series. Most of my racket that i have used dont vibrate much

QUOTE(doublezul @ Jun 13 2010, 10:29 PM)
is it true that bg80 string is nicer with high tension@25lbs+ ?
i want to try this string

bg80 users , what tension is the best??
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I've been using bg80 for 2 years, its a great string! A standard rule would be, the ticker the string the higher the tension =D for example

usually you play with BG 66 @ 26lbs
with BG 80 try going 28lbs

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post Jun 14 2010, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jun 14 2010, 12:25 AM)
HAHaha =D No worries!
Been playing singles lately at south quay with a few guys, haha im an underdog there =p
Ur arm will hurt after your game or maybe the next day wink.gif if not its alright! Some racket vibrates and some dont. if you are on a tight budget why not try apacs visible hollow series. Most of my racket that i have used dont vibrate much
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LOL, I ALSO PLAY IN SOUTH QUAY!!! will be going there tmr ^^ actually i'm eyeing on tantrum 200. at 1st i put my budget around RM450 and feel like getting a yonex racquet(since most of my kaki using yonex, want to use the same brand so that i can feel united with them sweat.gif ) but then after few days of reconsidering, i think that no point getting such expensive racquet as my skill still not enough to fully utilise the racquet. i still want to see how my old racquet can serve for the next few games, will try to string it at 26lbs tmr if possible
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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Jun 13 2010, 02:57 PM)
Bro Ziggy,

Where usually u play badminton?
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when i was in kl, i play at SM La Salle, jalan gasing, pj

QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 13 2010, 09:41 PM)
any1 can clarify this?? if i use the tension too high until i cant handle, beside the racquet will vibrate after i hit the shuttle, any other symptom to indicate that??
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the higher the tension, the small the sweetspot. so if u can hit the sweetspot, it's really very "sweet" haha

like wat calvin said, ur arm will hurt because u can't handle the impact from the string bed

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jun 14 2010, 12:25 AM)
HAHaha =D No worries!
Been playing singles lately at south quay with a few guys, haha im an underdog there =p
Ur arm will hurt after your game or maybe the next day wink.gif if not its alright! Some racket vibrates and some dont. if you are on a tight budget why not try apacs visible hollow series. Most of my racket that i have used dont vibrate much
I've been using bg80 for 2 years, its a great string! A standard rule would be, the ticker the string the higher the tension =D for example

usually you play with BG 66 @ 26lbs
with BG 80 try going 28lbs

=D
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visible hollow feels different from other racket. but heard it's good in absorbing impact
dude, all ur rackets r HIGH-END..of coz they don't vibrate much hahahahaha

wa..no nid add 2lbs
actually same tension oso ok coz the thickness not so different
maybe add 1lb la..

if play with ZM62, then nid to reduce 2-3lbs because it feels 2-3lbs tighter compared to 0.66mm string

QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 14 2010, 03:53 AM)
LOL, I ALSO PLAY IN SOUTH QUAY!!! will be going there tmr ^^ actually i'm eyeing on tantrum 200. at 1st i put my budget around RM450 and feel like getting a yonex racquet(since most of my kaki using yonex, want to use the same brand so that i can feel united with them  sweat.gif ) but then after few days of reconsidering, i think that no point getting such expensive racquet as my skill still not enough to fully utilise the racquet. i still want to see how my old racquet can serve for the next few games, will try to string it at 26lbs tmr if possible
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ur budget not that sufficient for yonex high ends and heard their low end racket sux!
tantrum200 is a good racket but mind u, it's quite stiff..if i'm not mistaken, it's rated extra stiff (7.5-8.0)
my apacs clone is rated stiff (8.0-8.5)
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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Jun 14 2010, 04:47 AM)
when i was in kl, i play at SM La Salle, jalan gasing, pj
the higher the tension, the small the sweetspot. so if u can hit the sweetspot, it's really very "sweet" haha

like wat calvin said, ur arm will hurt because u can't handle the impact from the string bed
visible hollow feels different from other racket. but heard it's good in absorbing impact
dude, all ur rackets r HIGH-END..of coz they don't vibrate much hahahahaha
if play with ZM62, then nid to reduce 2-3lbs because it feels 2-3lbs tighter compared to 0.66mm string
ur budget not that sufficient for yonex high ends and heard their low end racket sux!
tantrum200 is a good racket but mind u, it's quite stiff..if i'm not mistaken, it's rated extra stiff (7.5-8.0)
my apacs clone is rated stiff (8.0-8.5)
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thx for ur clarification. btw, la salle quite near to my secondary school ^^ high end racquet doesnt vibrate?? tantrum 200 really that stiff?? 1 seller called arc rate it as medium stiff... i think i can swing my racquet fast enough
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QUOTE(winter-X @ Jun 13 2010, 03:01 PM)
how to differentiate a fake protech and real protech shoes?
i just bought a protech shoes but i search the model around the net.nth found...is it fake?(should i return to the shop?)

model PTS 995
Color Red
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IMHO... protech is not a high end brand so normally ppl wont do fake protech...

but however, just to be 100% sure, u can try google for protech distributor in malaysia and check with them. u can also post which shop u buy it from and ask the members here about the credibility of tht shop.

Good luck!


Added on June 14, 2010, 9:47 am
QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 12 2010, 10:26 PM)
imo, u need technique rather than pure strength
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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Jun 12 2010, 11:28 PM)

power is nothing without control. . .  a female pro player can defeat a beginner male player easily although the male player got double the strength then the female player, get what I mean?  but when skill level is around the same then strength is important, as you can notice the level gap between those world class female player and male player. . .  and heavy racket is very subjective, for a strong guy your heavy racket could be not heavy enough for him. . .
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thx for all ur replies thumbup.gif

yes i have seen a pro girl player can easily 'tapau' on men recreational player who is considered as very good. from what i observed, the girl pro player movement is very fast, and secondly, looks like her wrist strength is very powerful, tht she dont need any afford at all and can just flick the shuttle high back and far, as well as very sharp drop shots. i cant remember wat racket she was using... but her skill was really impressive! i wonder was she using a very heavy racket?

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QUOTE(cartographer @ Jun 14 2010, 09:36 AM)
IMHO... protech is not a high end brand so normally ppl wont do fake protech...

but however, just to be 100% sure, u can try google for protech distributor in malaysia and check with them. u can also post which shop u buy it from and ask the members here about the credibility of tht shop.

Good luck!


Added on June 14, 2010, 9:47 am
thx for all ur replies  thumbup.gif

yes i have seen a pro girl player can easily 'tapau' on men recreational player who is considered as very good. from what i observed, the girl pro player movement is very fast, and secondly, looks like her wrist strength is very powerful, tht she dont need any afford at all and can just flick the shuttle high back and far, as well as very sharp drop shots. i cant remember wat racket she was using... but her skill was really impressive! i wonder was she using a very heavy racket?
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that girl from where?? if u want to improve the power of ur shot, make sure u grip ur racquet correctly and also use the correct method to transfer energy from wrist to the shuttle. u can swing tennis racquet to improve ur strength
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 14 2010, 11:15 AM)
that girl from where?? if u want to improve the power of ur shot, make sure u grip ur racquet correctly and also use the correct method to transfer energy from wrist to the shuttle.  u can swing tennis racquet to improve ur strength
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tht girl is from the national team (BAM?) i think. heard tht although she dun play for malaysia, but she trains with the national girls players

is there a way tht u can teach me the correct grip and method to transfer energy from wrist to shuttle? thx alot notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(cartographer @ Jun 14 2010, 12:00 PM)
tht girl is from the national team (BAM?) i think. heard tht although she dun play for malaysia, but she trains with the national girls players

is there a way tht u can teach me the correct grip and method to transfer energy from wrist to shuttle? thx alot  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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i learn it from here. hopefully this helps u
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 14 2010, 12:09 PM)
i learn it from here. hopefully this helps u
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cool man! i love the videos rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
thx a million!

may i know where do u usually play? must be a lot of pros in ur grp thot just wanna go watch... biggrin.gif

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