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raymond5105
post May 1 2009, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ May 1 2009, 04:14 PM)
btw, how much does a bottle of cvt fluid costs?and how often to change? now free service expire already, if can want to lari from honda service center.

Thanks alot..
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Should be < RM100 per bottle. Currently i'm not sure what's the price for it. Last time i service my gear oil using 2 bottles + workmanship is RM200+.
neato4u
post May 1 2009, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 1 2009, 04:04 PM)
Tapau by them?Sure or not? sweat.gif Wira and Myvi stock cannot tapau you one.You let them go first is it?
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not all can tapau me lah, but some when i try to chase really cannot overtake one.. run up to 170 then just stays there on their tail, even they give road oso cannot overtake.. haiyoh shame shame.. cover face sweat.gif
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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 1 2009, 05:27 AM)
100km/h top speed only? Ah.. you just had your car rite.. just wait until that desire 'kicks' in laugh.gif lol!
Nope, mine is stock IDSI. It's normal then.. but always kena tapau by Wira and Myvi.. darn..
yala i told u so wat.. change HU, huhu.. or better go back to your dealer and say wat la you sell me car with fauly HU, then get them to change if possible.  flex.gif
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go sc also dono they will change for you. since the car is so old. 03 model.

over 3years ady loo
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post May 2 2009, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 1 2009, 10:31 PM)
not all can tapau me lah, but some when i try to chase really cannot overtake one.. run up to 170 then just stays there on their tail, even they give road oso cannot overtake.. haiyoh shame shame.. cover faceĀ  sweat.gif
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just let them go lah smile.gif

i mean..

their car will forever be a 40k one and yours will forever be an 80k one.

u could have gotten a myvi,, 2 myvis


Added on May 2, 2009, 12:02 pmHey guys

Had some problem with my city this morning sad.gif I was waiting outside my house on P and with handbrake on. Suddenly, the radio restarted and some lights on the dashboard came on (like when you start you car, the EPS light, the temp high temp low light) but it went off. Happened again a few times till I decided to turn the car completely off.

Then I couldnt turn the car on, I couldnt on the emergency indicators, I couldnt lock or unlock the car with my remote, I could open manually and just exit the car without any alarm going on.

I left the car for awhile, maybe 5 mins or so then when I came back I could lock and unlock the car with my remote, I could start everything again like normal. I even went for a short drive to try.

At that point in time, I deduced it was the radio (cos the radio was givin probs, coming on when the engine was off etc) so I removed the face plate.

But just now when I left the car to idle in P with brake on, it happened again. Now I cant start the car or do anything at all.

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Anyone knows?

I moved the negative battery terminal a bit (is it meant to be movable?) and then i could start the car and everything again ): I checked my dad's car and the negative terminal is like screwed on so tight i cant even move it. So is it just a loose battery connection?

This post has been edited by julnoel: May 2 2009, 01:17 PM
neato4u
post May 2 2009, 08:01 PM

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lol julnoel.. true my car is a 80k one, but a 40k car can outrun a 80k .. sweat.gif ah.. so sad..

Anyway, man.. what's wrong with your car.. you must be scratching your head to have all these problems when you just bought it.. anyway, i suggest you go to a local workshop, tell them the issue, let them check the wirings for you.

Or you could disconnect the battery, get some hot water (just a bit) and wet those negative and positive terminals. Some old battery got that white things that will disturb the current.

Or if you really scared of local workshops who will charge you like there's no tomorrow.. get them to remove your radio ASAP. It could be the main culprit that's causing the 'short' and kacau your other electronic components.

I would do that fast.. who knows, it might kacau other electrical components while you're driving (eg the EPS or whatever) and it could be VERY dangerous sweat.gif



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post May 2 2009, 10:09 PM

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im afraid if i disconnect my battery tht the alarm comes on and i dont know how to override it (does anyone know??) the stock alarm i think. cobra one

im hoping and guessing its just a loose connection (i could push and pull the negative terminal connector) if opposed to the other cars at home which had it really stiff.

i doubt its the radio cos i put it back on just now and it was working well..like normal..didnt cause any "restarts"

but i noticed that when im idling..i hear a sound that comes on and off (like a fan). everytime that sound comes on then my lights will dim a little and brighten back up. but it doesnt affect the other electronics like the radio or the speedometer or anythin else



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post May 3 2009, 12:38 AM

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regarding the fan sound.. did you on your aircon? If yes, it's the aircon fan that's spinning..

normal. for me oso when the fan kicks in, then the lights will dim a bit.

must be something else then.

wah so sleepy...
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post May 3 2009, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 3 2009, 12:38 AM)
regarding the fan sound.. did you on your aircon? If yes, it's the aircon fan that's spinning..

normal. for me oso when the fan kicks in, then the lights will dim a bit.

must be something else then.

wah so sleepy...
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aircond fan kicks in but once in awhile, its not like continuousy

so yeah okay nvm abt that

went to check with mechanic today. he helped me tighten the battery terminal part and so far so good, had the car on for abt 1 hour to see if it "restarts" but it didnt. so im guessing all is fine now. I HOPE
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post May 3 2009, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 1 2009, 10:31 PM)
not all can tapau me lah, but some when i try to chase really cannot overtake one.. run up to 170 then just stays there on their tail, even they give road oso cannot overtake.. haiyoh shame shame.. cover face  sweat.gif
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Stock setting on our car would be properly like that speed only.170km/h is quite fast already.VTEC version can go higher.Myvi manual maybe can tapou you,not the auto version.But they have to rev. kao kao already.


Added on May 3, 2009, 1:06 pm
QUOTE(julnoel @ May 2 2009, 09:51 AM)
just let them go lah smile.gif

i mean..

their car will forever be a 40k one and yours will forever be an 80k one.

u could have gotten a myvi,, 2 myvis


Added on May 2, 2009, 12:02 pmHey guys

Had some problem with my city this morning sad.gif I was waiting outside my house on P and with handbrake on. Suddenly, the radio restarted and some lights on the dashboard came on (like when you start you car, the EPS light, the temp high temp low light) but it went off. Happened again a few times till I decided to turn the car completely off.

Then I couldnt turn the car on, I couldnt on the emergency indicators, I couldnt lock or unlock the car with my remote, I could open manually and just exit the car without any alarm going on.

I left the car for awhile, maybe 5 mins or so then when I came back I could lock and unlock the car with my remote, I could start everything again like normal. I even went for a short drive to try.

At that point in time, I deduced it was the radio (cos the radio was givin probs, coming on when the engine was off etc) so I removed the face plate.

But just now when I left the car to idle in P with brake on, it happened again. Now I cant start the car or do anything at all.

):

Anyone knows?

I moved the negative battery terminal a bit (is it meant to be movable?) and then i could start the car and everything again ): I checked my dad's car and the negative terminal is like screwed on so tight i cant even move it. So is it just a loose battery connection?
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Is it your battery weak already?I've just changed my battery on Wednesday only. Battery k.o. after 2 year and 3 months.

This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 3 2009, 01:06 PM
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post May 3 2009, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 3 2009, 01:05 PM)
Stock setting on our car would be properly like that speed only.170km/h is quite fast already.VTEC version can go higher.Myvi manual maybe can tapou you,not the auto version.But they have to rev. kao kao already.


Added on May 3, 2009, 1:06 pm
Is it your battery weak already?I've just changed my battery on Wednesday only. Battery k.o. after 2 year and 3 months.
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my battery is the new kind ( i think) there arent any openings, just a + and - terminal

I guess it was just lose

had the mechanic tighten it (didnt have the tools and was partially scared >.<)

so now its okay smile.gif hopefully

i guess if battery was weak then i would be able to sort of start the car (crank it a bit) but when the battery went dead yesterday i couldnt start at all..so i guess it was just a loose connection



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post May 3 2009, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(julnoel @ May 3 2009, 01:14 PM)
my battery is the new kind ( i think) there arent any openings, just a + and - terminal

I guess it was just lose

had the mechanic tighten it (didnt have the tools and was partially scared >.<)

so now its okay smile.gif hopefully

i guess if battery was weak then i would be able to sort of start the car (crank it a bit) but when the battery went dead yesterday i couldnt start at all..so i guess it was just a loose connection
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Does your battery connecters of both side get broken or cut when your mechanic tighten it for you?
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post May 3 2009, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 3 2009, 06:44 PM)
Does your battery connecters of both side get broken or cut when your mechanic tighten it for you?
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no but i could move the negative terminal simply by pushing it..

i guess the vibration in the engine compartment messed with that a bit yesterday resulting in the "restarting" of my radio and the other electronics

so now its super tight

like the other cars i have at home cos i checked
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post May 4 2009, 09:48 AM

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@julnoel,Do you still face the same problem until today?
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post May 4 2009, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 4 2009, 09:48 AM)
@julnoel,Do you still face the same problem until today?
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nope smile.gif so far so good. no restarting of the "electronics" whatsoever.

and i think this has happened to me once before, when i was having my driving lessons

the instructor had to go fix the car a bit, so after that i was driving, then suddenly on an empty stretch of road, everything just went off. LOL? the lights, the engine, even the emergency signal.

he had to push the car to the side and play with the terminals a bit, then the car was fine.

so yes, loose connection i guess smile.gif

just that in the city, the engine didnt go off but kept on running. I guess thats some other component that keeps it running that was malfunctioning in the kancil.



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post May 4 2009, 11:15 AM

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hey guys i just noticed City year 03 model the brakes are electronically controlled as well.. (or is it)?

I went for a car wash yesterday and the guys there told me to move the car in front a bit.

So i went in the car, engine was off, i turned the keys (engine still off) then switched to N gear. There was a bit of downhill so i let the car roll on it's own..

there's another car in front of me.. so i hit the brake.. and to my suprise, it's not working! So i pressed VERY HARD on the brakes and was about to hit my E-brake when the car stopped.

So when the engine is not running, the brakes are like manual and you really need to press VERY HARD for it to work. After wash i start the engine and drive a bit then press brake for a bit my car jerked and stopped aldy..

sweat.gif fhew.. luckily didn hit that car in front......
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post May 4 2009, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(julnoel @ May 4 2009, 10:10 AM)
nope smile.gif so far so good. no restarting of the "electronics" whatsoever.

and i think this has happened to me once before, when i was having my driving lessons

the instructor had to go fix the car a bit, so after that i was driving, then suddenly on an empty stretch of road, everything just went off. LOL? the lights, the engine, even the emergency signal.

he had to push the car to the side and play with the terminals a bit, then the car was fine.

so yes, loose connection i guess smile.gif

just that in the city, the engine didnt go off but kept on running. I guess thats some other component that keeps it running that was malfunctioning in the kancil.
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Good to hear that. Your experience with the instructor last time was weired,he didn't considered on the safety on his students. shocking.gif Damn dangerous.

QUOTE(neato4u @ May 4 2009, 11:15 AM)
hey guys i just noticed City year 03 model the brakes are electronically controlled as well.. (or is it)?

I went for a car wash yesterday and the guys there told me to move the car in front a bit.

So i went in the car, engine was off, i turned the keys (engine still off) then switched to N gear. There was a bit of downhill so i let the car roll on it's own..

there's another car in front of me.. so i hit the brake.. and to my suprise, it's not working! So i pressed VERY HARD on the brakes and was about to hit my E-brake when the car stopped.

So when the engine is not running, the brakes are like manual and you really need to press VERY HARD for it to work. After wash i start the engine and drive a bit then press brake for a bit my car jerked and stopped aldy..

sweat.gif fhew.. luckily didn hit that car in front......
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When car engine is off,usually can press the break manually.If you say like that,maybe the break is controlled by electronic?I'm doubt with it.But why you were not turning on the engine while moving the car?
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post May 4 2009, 01:40 PM

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Not possible.
Brakes are all hydraulic.
No power assist like power steering.

I have not known any car that have assisted brakes.
ABS & EBD is different thing.
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then you should try caerulln and see if you can get the 'full' potential of your brakes without starting the engine (just turn the keys until you have lights on the meter and switch to N).

Hey raymond5105 - yep can still press brake but feel no power. I press but you need super force to make the car stop.

And yet the car roll very very slow on N...

later i will try again and see if it's electronically controlled / assisted or not.


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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 4 2009, 05:59 PM)
then you should try caerulln and see if you can get the 'full' potential of your brakes without starting the engine (just turn the keys until you have lights on the meter and switch to N).

Hey raymond5105 - yep can still press brake but feel no power. I press but you need super force to make the car stop.

And yet the car roll very very slow on N...

later i will try again and see if it's electronically controlled / assisted or not.
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I don't know.
I can't explain it.
Never had this problem before.

The reason current cars do not have any sort of power assist is the fear of its failure.
Google around for something like brake-by-wire. We press the brake paddle & it send electronic signal to the brakes. No mechanical linkage. This is still in R&D.
It'll be very interesting if someone can prove that our cars have power assisted brakes.
AFAIK, no Ferrari, Porsche, BMW, Merc etc have it.
At most ABS, EBD & some newer BMW that automatically press the brakes ever so slightly just to remove water from the disks (during rain)
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post May 4 2009, 06:35 PM

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Btw, I'm guessing that there is other problem.
Which I can't think of.
I'm 100% sure there is nothing electronic about our brakes apart from the ABS.

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