junior u can youtube brett manning / singingsuccess for some tips.. i improved significantly after doing their training

in fact, it is possible to train head voice to sound like chest voice or real voice. i believe we switch to headvoice because of all the tension we have in our tongue, jaw and inner muscle. All these tension disrupt our vocal quality and therefore it make us sounded head.

learning how to controll chest voice is very important.. once you get it it really rocks =)

Anyone interested to try out some Iron Maiden?

Hmm, in fact, CHEST voice is called chest voice because the size of our vocal ZIP (air tract) is bigger than usual, more air gushes out from within, thus producing a THICKER sound.

As for HEAD voice, the vocal ZIP (throat hole), is narrower, producing a THINNER sound, when you hit some very high notes within your range, you will feel your rear skull vibrating.

As for DIAPHRAGM SINGING (singing from your stomach lol) that many people say, its just matter of CONTROL of your AIR FLOW from below your chest till out of your mouth. There must be a good flow of air movemet when you sing, try feeling it NOW.

If you CANT feel any air flow or air flow is being cut from below when singing, try INTENTIONALLY opening your VOCAL TRACT (lubang kerongkong), by lowering your LOWER JAW, it opens up naturally when you do so.

(This explains why BEST singers open up theyre mouth real wide when singing, to produce the best RESONANCE/ sound)

Im finding a vocal teacher , who can teach me how to scream (inwards and out), growl , pig squels..

To topic starter and those who like singing,

The basic practice on singing:

http://www.vocalscores.co.uk

go download the note file
not to guarantee that would help u hit higher notes or producing ringing voice but this would be a good start of figuring out how to utilize your voice.
Practice is the key, by singing out loud, by doing so you will be experimenting the changes of energy and air flow in you, eventually you will be able to utilize your muscle effectively, and it takes time so be patient, I would recommend ballad and classical singing technique for practising, go youtube for songs and learn to sing like them.

Hey guys, I'm singing in my band and we're performing during my school's concert night, it's our first performance ever and everytime after the rehearsels, my friends says my voice isn't loud enough. Is there any way to sing louder? Oh yeah, the concert is on the 18th of June. Thanks!

Youtube Melissa Cross.

time for a revive

to all pro vocalist, i need abit guidance.
Im noob at singing, seriously suck, sing liao ppl can close ear.

Anyway, yesterday my music teacher testing my range, so i sang until G4 or G above middle C.

he categorize me as a tenor.

So anyway, how only i can expand my range?
and i know this is asked many times, but how do i sing from my diaphram~
I really suck at this part

thanks~

This post has been edited by BelowAverage: Dec 14 2009, 04:49 PM

I can't reach soprano all the time. I'ts 50/50.

I'm in tenor in choir club. Really sad, during my 1 month training in Vocal class, I can go up to soprano.

Using diaphragm, is very hard to teach here, you need practice.

hmm...
any vocal teacher recommended at cheras taman connaught area?
im not smart enuff to learn from youtube...T.T

how do u know which notes u hit? like G5, A6.. from music score or it's all programmed in ur head?

i got perfect pitch

So i know what notes im singing

edit: but that doesnt mean every note i sing is in perfect pitch ( in my dreams hahahahahah)

This post has been edited by BelowAverage: Dec 21 2009, 11:20 PM

HAHAHAHA

I'm not a vocalist lah... Cause my singing is crap (the pubertal thing and all xD) But in my band sometimes while drumming I do the opening growls or screams... But recently its like my voice gets painful after like 5 seconds and my screams not so powerful liao.. like no deep end to it.... Any suggestions?

OH OH! Discuss screaming techniques anyone?

i really admire those who have a nice voice and i think i never going to get that lol

I don't know how wide my vocal range is, i only sing straight without thinking over the high pitch or low pitch. i use to sing in a 3 bands but i quit just to concentrate on my study

who doesnt

bro, i was pretty much a noob singer myself (after alot of years of being an instrumentalist) just a few years back. i was only interested in the quality of my voice, not by range because i knew how to use falsetto pretty much. i can say my voice quality was intermediate, and no problem for me at all at getting the right pitches coz i have perfect pitch.

then recently, this friend of mine who is a really really good singer, sang alot of high pitched songs which i thought i'd never sing very well. but somehow, using just the few voice lessons i had when i was really younger (i never had a true vocal coach), i just tried and tried singing and singing those high pitched songs. soon enough i've been nailing them, almost no use of falsetto. i self tested my vocal range - i can go from B2 to B4, and can linger abit in C5 or D5 (but that's really hard for me to do) without the use of falsetto, and can go further almost one more octave with falsetto. almost 3 octaves. couldn't believe it myself too ya know.

vocal range is one's range of MUSICALLY USABLE NOTES, meaning sounding musically nice. that's different from shouting

so, as of myself who is a self taught tenor, maybe i can give you guys tips which worked for me:

before singing, firstly choose and learn a few high pitched tenor songs with varying speed and rhythm. this way your voice box will be used to varying changing speeds of pitches.

when singing, try to feel the song as if you're singing for someone. do not be conscious about your body movements. just be natural, especially when you're trying to nail the B4's and C5's without falsetto, and more especially if these are whole notes (maybe just half notes for 6/8, 8/8 or 12/8 songs). in my own normal singing when i try to hit those notes, i just let it all out. i just close my eyes, concentrate ONLY on that part of the song, arc my back a bit as if i am trying to get power from my backside of my diaphragm, and being intimate with the microphone. this actually will depend on the singer. we all have our own natural and maybe unconscious movements.

of course the delivery of your voice is the really important thing. remember to STICK WITH YOUR OWN VOICE no matter what. do not try emulating other people's voice because that's going to be another thing you're going to mind of. using your own natural voice will take away the worry of how are you EXACTLY sounding like. make your voice as whole as you can get, even on high pitches. it's easier said than done actually. but just try to breathe deeply between measures before delivering a note, quick breathing if there's no rest, normal deep breathing when there is a rest. at all costs, don't pull your voice from your throat. breathe deeply, and feel your voice from your chest. and maybe the clincher to this - OPEN YOUR MOUTH VERY WELL to deliver a nice resonating sound. mind the syllables with A, E, I, O and U. they have different positions on how the mouth is opened.

one thing also you have to mind of is the volume of the voice. normally a tenor singer is a powerful singer and should be very able to hold relatively high notes (well, the word tenor is from the latin word 'tenere' which means TO HOLD). lower pitch, not much volume needed, but to deliver a high pitched note without the use of falsetto, there's when you let it all out, but you still have to mind and control the airflow - if you're going to deliver maybe a whole note tied to more notes, better spread the airflow to that whole length. you don't want to run out of air in the middle of a long note. also, if you try to deliver a high note with a softer volume, that's going to sound like you're using falsetto, and at times, it may sound ineffective.

maybe an added note: don't expect your singing voice to be equally the same in terms of quality and power when just singing compared to singing while playing a musical instrument. your body movements can really affect your singing voice.

and maybe an equally important factor: QUIT DRINKING ICED BEVERAGES i myself rarely drink iced or even just the cold ones beverages nowadays. usually i go for warm or hot.

with all these exercises, i've repeated and practiced all of them alot of times, and it's really nice hearing myself along the way that i have increased my vocal range. it sounded too impossible for me before, and i honestly was surprised by the changes of my voice so far. one thing you also will need to take note is, after singing maybe a couple of those kind of songs, you may feel abit tired and thirsty (still no iced beverages). but i still consider myself a noob and still wanting to learn more.

wish i can show you a sample in person, but unfortunately my stay here in KL will be over soon. if you think you increased your range, try singing Bed Of Roses by Bon Jovi. high notes on chorus is A4, peaks on last chorus on B4. pretty much an easier song (but not entirely an easy one ).

i hope this one helps good luck!

This post has been edited by brownman90561495: Jan 21 2010, 11:40 AM

those people are god gifted

I like singing too. I'm a soprano but I cant really hit those high notes always. Then, do any of you sound diff or have your own style when singing a song? Take american idols. When they sing, they dont usually sound like the original singer did. I'm really figuring that out. Is it you sound diff on certain notes because you cant emulate that singer to sing that high/low ?

uhm, i've never been to any vocal lessons and worse of all, i don't play any musical instruments. however, i do like to whistle and for me, it's just a like my own personal instrument already. was too poor to continue my piano lessons and my bro sold my guitar. nevertheless, i do love singing and some friends said that i have this special potential. normally i just sing according to the feelings which the song wants to convey. i don't think i have a big problem when coming to sing according to tune.
uhm, if i were to start training my vocal, where to start? how to know what voice i have? why is it important to have proper vocal training? if i don't get vocal training does it mean i cant sing? confused