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 AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V4, Just added: HD4830 benches!

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post Oct 29 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(superpc @ Oct 29 2008, 10:25 PM)
new 4870 user reporting in tongue.gif asus 4870
will do some testing tomorrow
my processor isn't going to co-operate with it thou, using old E4300 at 3GHz smile.gif
any tip that's needed by a new card?
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flash it to TOP bios, den can OC kao kao................. tongue.gif
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post Oct 29 2008, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(superpc @ Oct 29 2008, 10:52 PM)
it's not the TOP version, so around the same with other 4870
WoW 14 days trial....
will do when im free, hope it doesn't fail me haha
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sure wont.
i'm using TOP bios, can OC core clock all the way up to 865 stable without adding vcore......... brows.gif

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post Oct 30 2008, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Oct 30 2008, 01:55 PM)
as i know that 4870 gpu can tahan high temperatures around 68degrees also consider normal.
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in fact, way more den 68c, even 90+ is not a problem.
QUOTE(superpc @ Oct 30 2008, 02:44 PM)
so i attempted to overclock without flashing bios, can't even manage 790/950?crash when running 3dmark vantage, im expecting something better... or maybe i will need other tool to OC? tried asus smart doctor and amd ccc
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wont do u much good, since of depends on the card it self. not utilities.

btw, wat ur 4870 vcore?
i notice dat newer batch of 4870 is much cooler den it 1st launch?
may b enhanced bios wit better fan control? of dey simply just drop the vcore slightly?
i did notice dat those 1st batch 4870 can OC way better den newer batch.

even the ASUS reference cooler version (not TOP), can OC all the way up to 855.

u shud check out few pages bck wen i oc my 4870 core clock to 877..... thumbup.gif
btw, here's a nice article.
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=580


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post Oct 30 2008, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 30 2008, 04:45 PM)
Will the fan die faster if we set it 100% compare to 50%?
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technically speaking, yes.
but c'mon, those fan already built 2 run like ~ 50k hours.
do the math, how many years is dat?
btw the time the fan dead, u already change GC.
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post Oct 30 2008, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(OmniAtlas @ Oct 30 2008, 05:22 PM)
I'm going to go to lowyat tomorrow to check out the coolers...probably going to get the accelero S1 rev 2. because it is the cheapest out there and its passive cooling.

Anyone have any idea where to buy it over there?
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revision 2 does comes wit 2 fan which u can clip on the heatsink.
i dun remember, it teks 2.5 o 3 slots..............
QUOTE(Fuji-San88 @ Oct 30 2008, 05:25 PM)
i'm thinking to upgrade my gc
rite now using Sapphire 4850..
my plan is CF the 4850 or buy 4870X2..
which one will give better performance and not very pricey??
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perhaps u're asking 2 much.......................
of coz 4870x2 will b more powerful den 4850 crossfire.
but 4850 crossfire will provide more bang for bucks den 4870x2.
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post Oct 30 2008, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(OmniAtlas @ Oct 30 2008, 06:51 PM)
2.5 slots??!! thats crazy. thats pretty much all the slots on my motherboard. are you sure?

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2 slots for the heat sink, 2.5 with the fans?
the heatsink alone already 2 slot, right?
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post Oct 30 2008, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(OmniAtlas @ Oct 30 2008, 08:21 PM)
so going to low yat will be a waste tomorrow??  what cooler do they sell there???

can you guys recommend  a cooler that I can buy. thanks.
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try twin turbo.
i'll say best dual slot solution.................. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 30 2008, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(OmniAtlas @ Oct 30 2008, 08:32 PM)
two fans..isn't it loud??


Added on October 30, 2008, 8:35 pm-- nope, can't do, takes up 3 slots:

The only big drawback from Accelero Twin Turbo is that your video card will take up three slots on your computer, not only two. This may prevent you from installing a second video card on your system. We will talk more about this on the conclusions.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/630/2
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bro, i'm using twin turbo.......................
i can still fit another card bellow it in crossfire....................tell me, how is dat 3 slot..............

it might tek 1 - 2cm more space den reference cooler, but its definitely not 3 slot & u definitely hav room for crossfire.
QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 30 2008, 08:44 PM)
I love the Trad2. Lately, thermalright cooler is great.
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3 slots (wit fan), right?
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post Oct 30 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(OmniAtlas @ Oct 30 2008, 09:01 PM)
hm, i need the extra slot for a sound card.

btw, what temps are you getting and what is your noise level?
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hardly notice wit 100% fan speed.

i can run my 4870 OC till 865/1100 wit 100% fan speed.
idle temperature is ~40c, stress test is ~55c.
but everytime i check the temperature after hours of gaming..................it nvr goes >45c.................... thumbup.gif

all dis temperature is non air con environment.

btw,
i still think the hotfix is not worth applying.
basically improvement is just 2 ~ 3 frames.
improvement only noticeable in high resolution..........

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post Oct 30 2008, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Oct 30 2008, 10:21 PM)

Added on October 30, 2008, 10:29 pm

why ur card can go beyond the 850 boundaries?
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perhaps the ASUS TOP bios..........
i google around i found out dat not many 4870 can even get pass 800 wall.
i'm very happy wit my 4870, capable of 877 if i increase the voltage.................... thumbup.gif

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post Oct 31 2008, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 30 2008, 10:42 PM)
It served pretty good for my 4850 last time. 47/61C as compared to ref. cooler of 70/90C
Akasa is single slot that's y it wont beat dual slot cooler.


Added on October 30, 2008, 10:46 pm
No benchies no proof.  laugh.gif
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i can giv benches @ 865, can't OC 877 @ vista 64 coz cannot use ATI tray tools..............x_x..........................must tweak the voltage.
may b later i'll tweak the bios myself.............

kinda regret using vista 64bit....................shud hav go for 32 it.....................
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post Oct 31 2008, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 31 2008, 01:33 AM)
Go download readydriverplus to disable the driver signing when windows startup to use ati tray tools smile.gif
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will do dat next week.................
now on xp.
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post Oct 31 2008, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Oct 31 2008, 12:33 PM)
meaning i have to edit the bios and flash new voltage settings?  icon_question.gif
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not entirely necessary.
u can use ATI tray tools
if u wanna run @ dat voltage 24/7, just create a ATI tray tools profile & load dat @ startup.
QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 31 2008, 06:28 PM)
So many ppl complain about Farcry2 hotfix!!?? I think I'll pass the hotfix.
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i heard the latest hotfix fixed dat IQ glitches.......................any1 actually try it yet?
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post Oct 31 2008, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 31 2008, 08:48 PM)
What IQ glitches your referring to?
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those missing rock & missing texture in farcry 2
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post Nov 2 2008, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(onimusha_m16 @ Nov 2 2008, 04:15 PM)
what is the max setting for red alert 3 with 4850? i can max out the graphics with only 2X AA.. 4X and 8X AA slows down (<30 fps) when there is many things on the screen
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depends on ur screen resolution.............

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post Nov 9 2008, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(confuzan @ Nov 9 2008, 02:29 AM)
hi guys, need your opinion.

i planning to buy a 4870 card soon, but i prefer a low noise card. any idea which brand has a low noise cooling solution?
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water cooling lo.............

get gainward GS, or get 3rd party cooler such as twin turbo.
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post Nov 9 2008, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(confuzan @ Nov 9 2008, 03:04 AM)
what i meant is the stock fan, which brand will be quieter?
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stock all no different la.........................
own self adjust fan speed la.....
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post Nov 9 2008, 08:46 PM

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Mrrry Christmas consumer................... icon_idea.gif

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post Nov 9 2008, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(studwo @ Nov 9 2008, 08:59 PM)
omg... when is this 2 new monsters will come out?
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no words yet............
but i suspect the order goes:

december - gt200b
q1 2009 - RV790
early q2 2009 - gt300
late q2 2009 - RV870
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post Nov 9 2008, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Nov 9 2008, 09:51 PM)
Honestly I dont really see them a necessity to increase the FPS except for Crysis, Far Cry2 and some simulator games. Many of the games already exceed 70~100+ FPS at the highest resolution. Waste time ba.
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dey just wanna compete for the king of the hill title....................

example.......it is easier 2 sell 4850 & 4870 if u hav 4870x2 sitting on the top of the hill.

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