i nvr c dis b4 in m'sia but i heard of it since b4 4870 release.
get a twin turbo & slap it on ur 4870 la.
same only........

512 will do.
u'll only c more performance gain in much higher resolution.

1680 * 1050 is 19" - 22" only la.
512 version is more den capable 2 handle dis resolution.

1gb version is pretty much for those who own 24" but dun wanna spend 2 much on 4870x2 or gtx280.

well, it doesn't harm 2 hav more memory, but wit 4k series, i really dun recommend it unless u really need.
coz those extra vram chip also generate heat.
may b will end up a little bit hotter PBC compared to 512 version.

This post has been edited by tech3910: Nov 25 2008, 12:07 AM

check the model.
there r 22" lcd out there capable of 1920x1080 also.
but mostly is 1680x1050 only.

nice................
dat is the model i'm going 2 buy next month.

mind telling me where u bought it & how much it cost?

btw, here's a review of 4870 1gb. http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/diamond_hd4870_1gb/

the performance isn't mind blowing as u think, only 2 ~ 3 fps.

remember dis, 4850 bottleneck is memory speed, dats y OC memory giv a lot performance gain.

4870 in the other hand, clock speed is bottleneck, it shud b close to 1ghz but AMD cant do dat coz too hot.
dis is y OC clock speed on 4870 yield much more performance gain den OC memory.
those extra 512 memory means much more bandwidth on the card.
but there is not much point owning a car dat can go 300kph if highways only allows 70kph.

i'll wait till pc fair only buy.
last time pc fair benq girls was great............

well, the review says it all.
2 - 3 fps gain doesn't justify the 1gb memory.
i'll stick wit 512 if u ask me.

btw, dun worry too much bout fps, if the game is running @ 24fps constant, u wont fell the lag unless it go bellow 24.................
people, dun start 2 argue bout how many fps consider no lag, coz 24 is the ans.

evidence:


This post has been edited by tech3910: Nov 25 2008, 12:41 AM

i'm talking those older days la..................
try imagining of those bruce lee movies bck then.
tell me, if the camera capable of max 24fps, how dey optimized it 30fps in movies?
dey shoot it in slowmo & speed it up?

u jav 2 understand dis.
30fps = smooth
<24fps = consider as lag
60fps = fully optimized

u're comparing 30fps & 60fps & conclude dat 30fps is lower therefore consider lag.
slower & lagging is 2 different term, do not confuse.
its like saying 9800gtx is a slower GPU compared to 4870 therefore conclude 9800gtx is a sux GPU.

i'm trying 2 get dis point out in every "fps discussion".
dun tek my statement too offensively, coz i'm not.................

btw, i b lief in the 90s, movies r still shoot @ 24fps.
dunno bout holywood standard, i'm talking bout like those hong kong budget film.

This post has been edited by tech3910: Nov 25 2008, 01:27 PM

welcome 2 the club...........
i agree wit u, the pick card is so gay..........

y nvr buy GS?
planning 2 get any 3rd party cooler?

4 me, performance matter more den looks.

well, reference is kinda heavy..................

like a mini hair dryer.

wen u on pc dat time, it will run @ 100% for ~1 second.
dats the sound.

well...........u still dun get my point.

v r not even on the same page.
i'm not saying u're wrong.

yes, 30fps compared to 60fps, u may b notice 30fps is slower.
no, even @ 25fps, dis frame rate is not QUALIFY 2 b consider as lag, yet.

kl tower compare to KLCC, kl tower is shorter, but dis doesn't conclude dat kl tower is consider as a short building.
i hope u get wat i mean............

best is 2experience it ur own.
assume dat u hav a ATI GC, run ATI tray tools which playing game. the fps will show up on the top right corner.
just play as u usually does, wen u starting to actually fell the lag, look @ the fps.

i've do dis countless times, & i can tell u dat wen i look @ the fps, it is 22 wen i actually fell something is lagging.

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Added on November 25, 2008, 4:37 pmthose r not actually lag, may b its ghosting due to LCD slow respond time.
try using CRT or plasma tv, it'll flow smooth.

also, another thing dat i like 2 point out, people usually tek this wrongly.
example, a game is running @ average 30fps & it fells lag sometime, therefore 30fps is consider not enough.
the actually thing dat happen is, may b the game is running @ max 35fps, min 20fps & average 30fps.
v only fell the lag on those ~20fps part.

This post has been edited by tech3910: Nov 25 2008, 04:38 PM

@ruffstuff, @xpresside
note my 1st line: "v're not on the same page"
@ least u can ply game................
i can't do anything wit my 8400gs..................
playing RA2 now, @ least its better den RA3...............stupid EA......
a review would b nice............

just RMA yesterday......................

SDS told me max will tek 1 month, if got stock dey will replace.

i know, in fact, it launch on the same day my exam start.....................
so i wont b able 2 ply it wen it launch no matter wat...............

wtf?
u send shop or HQ?

i'll call dem exactly 14, 21 & 28 days after the RMA date if still haven't done.
if 1 month also not yet finish, i'll get another 4870.

This post has been edited by tech3910: Nov 25 2008, 07:00 PM

SDS & ScanArt is sisters company.

in fact, their HQ is on the same building, only different floor.

look for good distro, not brand............

last time i dun remember who RAM his 4850gs to ScanArt, 3weeks replace new 1.

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Added on November 25, 2008, 7:09 pmoo, no wonder, 8800gt is old card, no longer in production......
4870 is still active in production.

& nvr ever RMA through shop.
dey will keep the card until distro com only giv dem, may b 1 month dey will keep @ shop.
& wen it return, the same thing happen, another few month sitting idle in the store...............

This post has been edited by tech3910: Nov 25 2008, 07:09 PM

netraid RAM took how long?
let me rephrase.....................
"v r not on the same page"

& y u people get so upset?

if within 2 weeks, i'll consider good service.
1 month is acceptable.

anything more den dat is $hit.

well, stock cmg, good den.
since my exam end @ dec 10, i wont mind waiting till den.

netraid & scanart merge............. theoretically speaking.
but wen a small company merge wit a big company, u can call dat a tek over.