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post Jun 9 2011, 02:28 PM

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Imagine space marine=humans | orcs=zombie ,there you go,L4D2 LOL
Only if theres co-op...Opss co-op removed...T__T

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post Jun 9 2011, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Kale92 @ Jun 9 2011, 02:28 PM)
Imagine space marine=humans | orcs=zombie ,there you go,L4D2 LOL
Only if theres co-op...Opss co-op removed...T__T
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Dude, not even close
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post Jun 9 2011, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Kale92 @ Jun 9 2011, 02:28 PM)
Imagine space marine=humans | orcs=zombie ,there you go,L4D2 LOL
Only if theres co-op...Opss co-op removed...T__T
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There are not normal humans, and they dont even play like normal humans.

Space Marines probably have portrayed the warhammer lore in the most accurate way in a Relic game so far. DoW2/1's one is pretty rubbish, as few space marines might get killed buy a bunch of Slugga's. In Space Marine, they grind 40 Slugga for breakfast and only left with puddles of blood.

Thats how badass a space marine should be.

Heard there is co-op too. Seriously, they even gave 2 space marines following you, if they dont let you to control them, that would be a huge waste.
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post Jun 9 2011, 05:40 PM

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Lore means SM are pretty badass but it really depends of the writer and story

Like if the novel/fluff is about SM then they chuck norris in power amors.

If the novel/fluff is about IG they are usually never seen or IG leader can battle easily with Chaos SM or gain respect from Imperial marines (like in Gaunt novels)

If the novel/fluff is about SM enemies then they have butter armor and pansies guns (Storm of Iron etc, some short stories.)

If you go the "fair" way SM are indeed pretty badass and superhuman but far from invincible, especially the "basic" tactical marine. Lots of creature/badass/weapon in WH40k universe that can crunch a SM in pulp.

For a random example a "basic" Chaos Marine from one of the original Legions is supposed to be:
A SM
PLUS 10,000 years experience (compared to the 100-300 years in average of a imperial SM)
PLUS Chaos Powers (mutation, spells, special demon-weapons etc.)
MINUS Faith to the Emperor (And They Shall Know No Fear)
MINUS Some of the new tech Imperial SM have (plasma weapons, stormbotler, razorbacks etc.)
PLUS Some of the old tech the Imperial SM can't have anymore since they lost it in the past 10K years (some genetic advancement or armor gadgets)

I would say it's more than an equal match... or in a game like Space Marine a Chaos SM will most probably become fodder... and a single marine will easily beat 10 of them at the same time

Though personally I will greatly enjoy the game for sure, Coop or not but it's hard to say how powerful SM "should" be smile.gif
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post Jun 9 2011, 06:15 PM

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gonna get this while waiting for bf3 to release the month after that, hehe

just as planned...
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post Jun 9 2011, 06:31 PM

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Space Marines = a tank with two legs (is that close?)
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post Jun 9 2011, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(noobfc @ Jun 9 2011, 06:31 PM)
Space Marines = a tank with two legs (is that close?)
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Not really. Armoured car on two legs will be closer to the truth. (Borrowing WW2 terminology).

Now terminators. Those are tanks.
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post Jun 9 2011, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Jun 9 2011, 06:44 PM)
Not really. Armoured car on two legs will be closer to the truth. (Borrowing WW2 terminology).

Now terminators. Those are tanks.
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yea, that seems the closest

titan = omgwtfbbq
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post Jun 9 2011, 08:39 PM

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Will the storyline like SErious Sam just kill kill and kill?? its will be boring 8hour non stop kill the sam orc orc and orc. change weapon and start kill again n again. hope will make a little fun other than killing. $$
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post Jun 9 2011, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(kaeyny @ Jun 9 2011, 08:39 PM)
Will the storyline like SErious Sam just kill kill and kill?? its will be boring 8hour non stop kill the sam orc orc and orc. change weapon and start kill again n again. hope will make a little fun other than killing. $$
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"While the enemies of the Emperor still draw breath, there can be no peace."

More seriously I think they can make it more interesting with different enemies, the map level and extra stuff like Jetpacks and co. New weapon unlocks also can keep it interesting.

I remember seeing some sequence in thunderawks and Orks "planes" for example.

And please make it a story at least half interesting, Wh40k has such potential...
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 9 2011, 09:20 PM)
"While the enemies of the Emperor still draw breath, there can be no peace."

More seriously I think they can make it more interesting with different enemies, the map level and extra stuff like Jetpacks and co. New weapon unlocks also can keep it interesting.

I remember seeing some sequence in thunderawks and Orks "planes" for example.

And please make it a story at least half interesting, Wh40k has such potential...
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It's really not that hard to make a half-decent story with WH40k, unless the writer is spectacularly bad. There's just so much material and lore to take from.

Even a half-decent re-enactment Battle of MacCragge will be fun.
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post Jun 9 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(noobfc @ Jun 9 2011, 08:33 PM)
yea, that seems the closest

titan = omgwtfbbq
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Seems like Relic did give a hint that we will be playing with Titans too. drool.gif
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post Jun 9 2011, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 9 2011, 09:47 PM)
Seems like Relic did give a hint that we will be playing with Titans too.  drool.gif
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on the side note, to those who played bionic commando the air level where you jump from airships to airships,

you reckon it would be similar? hmm.gif

and yes, the lore of warhammer 40k indeed is vast and never fails to keep people interested, just hope that some other races/aliens make it this time

chaos = deception/heresy
orks = bloodbath/getting rid of pest (unless its that ork warlord from armageddon)
tau = diplomatic problem
eldars = space elves think everything other ppl doing is wrong
tyranids = zergs from starcraft invading warhammer 40k



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post Jun 9 2011, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 9 2011, 09:47 PM)
Seems like Relic did give a hint that we will be playing with Titans too.  drool.gif
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I remember something about titans too but the "playing with Titans" was more in the there will be titans also in the battle field and you fight around them.

Not like you will be actually controlling the titans (think that's what you mean right?)

But that would be damn awesome already if they do a Warlord or "gasp" an Emperor-class Titan in game, the "small" titans are nice already but lack in the "WOAW" factor really ^^

If they do that it could be the biggest land based machine I would have seen in a video game actually.
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post Jun 9 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 9 2011, 11:16 PM)
I remember something about titans too but the "playing with Titans" was more in the there will be titans also in the battle field and you fight around them.

Not like you will be actually controlling the titans (think that's what you mean right?)

But that would be damn awesome already if they do a Warlord or "gasp" an Emperor-class Titan in game, the "small" titans are nice already but lack in the "WOAW" factor really ^^

If they do that it could be the biggest land based machine I would have seen in a video game actually.
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I remembered that there was only one Warhammer 40k game that we can play as Titans. Some turn-based game.
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post Jun 10 2011, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(noobfc @ Jun 9 2011, 10:17 PM)
chaos = deception/heresy
orks = bloodbath/getting rid of pest (unless its that ork warlord from armageddon)
tau = diplomatic problem
eldars = space elves think everything other ppl doing is wrong
tyranids = zergs from starcraft invading warhammer 40k
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I'm a huge 40k fan but I've been nothing but disappointed with the conversion from tabletop to PC. The only game that has kept me entertained is DoW2. Yes, even Space Hulk 1 & 2 disappointed me. The PC games didn't do the board game justice.

As for Space Marine, I'll buy ONLY if I get to kill those dandelion eaters (eldar). They annoy me sooooooo much.

Also, Blood Angels > Ultramarine (or any other chapter for that matter) flex.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Jun 9 2011, 11:47 PM)
I remembered that there was only one Warhammer 40k game that we can play as Titans. Some turn-based game.
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Final Liberation yar but I meant to see them in a first person thing, to really see their size and power.
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post Jun 10 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 9 2011, 11:16 PM)
I remember something about titans too but the "playing with Titans" was more in the there will be titans also in the battle field and you fight around them.

Not like you will be actually controlling the titans (think that's what you mean right?)

But that would be damn awesome already if they do a Warlord or "gasp" an Emperor-class Titan in game, the "small" titans are nice already but lack in the "WOAW" factor really ^^

If they do that it could be the biggest land based machine I would have seen in a video game actually.
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According to lore, the Princeps (titan operator) is bonded mentally in a complex ritual with the titan, which has a sentient CPU. The titan can go berserk if they yanked out the original princeps and plug in another mind incorrectly.

Most likely u will be fighting in and around a titan to protect it while it engages another titan... that battle will be epic rclxms.gif

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post Jun 10 2011, 05:32 PM

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The Titan has an AI personality yar, usually one of an aggressive animal like a grizzly or some animal like that. It's not a full personality but more like an "imprint". Like the titan might be more "keen" to attack than retreat, likes to finish off an ennemy and co, making it easier to control in this kind of situation than in some other that the titan does not "like".

And Princeps have to harmonize with this personality which get tougher as the titan gets older and bigger thus only very experienced princeps can command the biggest titans. But they can unplug themselves and go around, they are not like permanently linked

Any non trained person who get plugged to the titan would get overwhelmed by the titan's personality and have their mind pretty much destroyed

Fighting around one of the big titan in a first person (or third person, I mean when looking through a human point of view) would indeed be totally awesome smile.gif

This post has been edited by Gormaz: Jun 10 2011, 05:34 PM
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post Jun 11 2011, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Jun 10 2011, 12:16 AM)
I remember something about titans too but the "playing with Titans" was more in the there will be titans also in the battle field and you fight around them.

Not like you will be actually controlling the titans (think that's what you mean right?)

But that would be damn awesome already if they do a Warlord or "gasp" an Emperor-class Titan in game, the "small" titans are nice already but lack in the "WOAW" factor really ^^

If they do that it could be the biggest land based machine I would have seen in a video game actually.
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In the another interview by gamespot....at thier booth

it was asked if the player could actually play or drive a TiTan class mech....according to the creative direct "Ralf" he said that they will some how let the player have some form of control over that.

I've a feeling we might see enemy daemons the size of a tower or even Ork mechs which rival the Titan class mechs.

However from the concept arts, they have only drawn those citidel class titans. So I wonder if you actually get to be inside a titan while fighting tons of chaos forces XP...


Added on June 11, 2011, 3:02 am
QUOTE(kaeyny @ Jun 9 2011, 09:39 PM)
Will the storyline like SErious Sam just kill kill and kill?? its will be boring 8hour non stop kill the sam orc orc and orc. change weapon and start kill again n again. hope will make a little fun other than killing. $$
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Yes....lots of killing, lots of blood, lots of guts and alot of weapons (40k theme) lots of chainswords....


Overall not Serious Sam, just 40k Space Marine madness.

This post has been edited by Leo3010: Jun 11 2011, 03:02 AM

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