QUOTE(nujo87 @ Sep 19 2008, 10:54 PM)
Hi guys,
Im looking for a HD4850 GS, can u guys suggest me some seller?
Or can i go straight into NETRAID shop to buy one?
Prefer batch after 18-sep
Gainward cards are available from:
Low Yat Plaza: PC Zone, ATE, Thunder Match, Wawasan
Digital Mall: My Computer System, Octavo, Wawasan IT
Penang: Pristine Wireless
http://forum.lowyat.net/PristineWirelessTechnologyLYN resellers:
Leh Teck,
Moderno,
Karom,
Zhen Wei and
CEXWe sold out of Gainward 4850 GS long time ago. From now on, you will definitely get the new batch no matter who or where you buy from.QUOTE(Stef41 @ Sep 20 2008, 06:25 AM)
Hi Netraid, Hello all
So Question: in your opinion are we also facing the same problem in Europe with this instable chip fitted on some cards between the 15 to 10 sept?
Is there any official com ready to be released by Gainward on this if we are also affected?
Bonjour Monseiur Stephane,
All we know is NOT all 4850 have problems. Only FEW Gainward 4850 GS & CC cards from 15th August till 10th Sep 2008 batch. Presumably the batch in Europe is affected too. Please check with Gainward Europe. Visit
http://www.gainward.de/support/support_uk_rma.htmlThere is no official release from Gainward because the qty affected is too few. Eg. we sold few hundreds here but so far only noticed less than 5-6 people really affected.
QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 20 2008, 06:53 AM)
Wow, all the way from France. Netraid is gainward distributor in Malaysia, i think all the gainward card are coming from the same factory. Need comfirmation from Netraid also..
YES, all Gainward are manufactured in the same factory now. But we use different retail box for the mainland China market (colorful Chinese Opera face). Gainward is a top brand in Europe, esp. Germany.
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 20 2008, 07:02 AM)
Stef41, the newer batch should not have problems IMO. My friend's was rock solid but mine was a little unstable, but since the distro agreed to change so I'll be arranging for it soon

. Thank god we had a reliable distro here in Malaysia.
We sold out of Gainward 4850 GS long time ago. From now on, you will definitely get the new batch no matter who or where you buy from.Thanks for your kind words bro.

QUOTE(Stef41 @ Sep 20 2008, 07:33 AM)
Hello,
If you mean "massage" it's a Good joke... Also a good idea because you know with this card I'm a bit stressed. Probably Netraid will give 1 card + 1 massage stage for free to all of their favorites (and rich) customers...
Ha ha... we try hard to please, but not that hard...

Here are some eye candy for you man:
http://en.expreview.com/2008/09/05/sex-sel...-lv-bu-hd-4870/Seriously, you should just contact your local reseller/disty to arrange for return. We can only exchange for local customers here.
QUOTE(Jiraiya1863 @ Sep 20 2008, 07:54 AM)
Anyway is it that easy to replace to a new one just like netraid mentioned? Like that, i also want to change la considering latest batch 18th Sept onwards is better.. Is there any procedures to change it..
Any suggestion on how to check mine ok or not? Any idea to stress it to the max lol? Just tell me what software to use n how to use it..
For exchange procedure, see middle of this thread:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/783556/+540Just see if you have any blackouts when playing games (any type) or running applications. No need to stress test it with any special software.
Blackouts are caused by MANY reasons. We just want to be safe so we offer the exchange program with a new GC.
That means if your blackouts are caused by Gainward 4850 unstable chip, then it should not happen anymore. But there is
NO guarantee blackouts won't happen due to other reasons (unstable/unclean OS, driver, signals, hot temp, bad/broken connectors etc).
We like to remind everyone that this exchange problem is
ONLY for those with blackouts (whether due to our chip or other reasons - impossible to be 100% sure). Gainward will test the returned stock. So please be sure you do have blackouts before asking for exchange.
Below is an example of blackouts caused by OTHER reasons:
QUOTE(mikegainward08 @ Sep 20 2008, 11:19 AM)
yesterday i update .Net Framework 2.0 security from windows it self. Then i try to run Furmark Stability test with 8MXAA. Just for 10sec. , black screen turn up and PC hang. Luckily i solved that problem ( reinstall the .Net Framework 2.0).
Here is the video i captured with hand-phone. The Furmark Test was run for 2000sec ( 33mins 20secs ).
My Webpage Darksteno, Celciuz, Minmin and Raymones89, please send your cards back for exchange just to be safe. No need to come to our office if you are not free. Just post it to us and we will send back the new card once we received yours.
QUOTE(ronho @ Sep 20 2008, 02:22 PM)
hi, netraid...there are some comments in the 4670 thread that the new 4670 does not support crt ??? please , need to give some info on this....tx
Not that we are aware of. We are selling very well in Europe and other countries.
Our Gainward 4670 have 4 ports: D-Sub (CRT), DVI, HDMI & Display Port. We will check with Gainward on this. Thanks for informing us.
QUOTE(Stef41 @ Sep 20 2008, 02:22 PM)
I seleted 4850GS not only for performances but mainly for its new PCB, power management and improved cooling.
Very clever decision.

Most people just noticed Gainward 4850 performance without realising it's cooling and improved power management.
QUOTE(flavius89 @ Sep 20 2008, 04:25 PM)
Hello everyone, I'm from Romania, and also i have similar problems with this GS card (black screen's for a few seconds). I sent the card to the waranty, and I don't know what card I should get instead of that (the same model?, but without this problems I hope, or a 9800gtx+, which is not soo fast like a 4850 GS?)
So I ask you guys how to detect a bad card from a good one?
Hi Falvius,
Just keep playing games and using your PC like you normally do. No need to do anything special. See if you have blackouts during gaming or usage.
But take note that
blackouts are caused by MANY reasons. Since you experience many black screens very fast, our opinion is that your card is affected. But it's just our view. Please contact your local distributor and Gainward Europe to verify your problem. Visit
http://www.gainward.de/support/support_uk_rma.htmlQUOTE(Jiraiya1863 @ Sep 20 2008, 06:18 PM)
Already tested Furmark MSAA 8x @ 1280 x 960.. Fan speed 100% temp +- 70C..
30min running without any problem, is it enough to say that my GC is ok?..
YES, looks ok. No need to try so hard to look for problems. Not all cards affected. Read above.
Thank you everyone for sharing and being patience and understanding.

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