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post Sep 21 2008, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Sep 21 2008, 01:53 PM)
alrighty. will do later. chicken high in protein right, shld be good for them? How much shld i give? hard boiled eggs give whole thing? normal flavoured yogurts can mah ? i had some in hand, strawberry and blueberry flavoured. can they eat lychee?
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Yups. Cooked chicken is good. Just prepare a bit, like a thumb size of chicken meat and see how much he eats loh. You can also give 2 pieces of dog kibble. I normally give a quarter of boiled egg. But if you give chicken now, no need egg lah.

Yups, any flavour of yogurt would do, as long not orange or corn. Make sure is the low fat kind coz gliders need a little fat.

Yes, lychee can eat. Rambutan also.
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Sep 21 2008, 02:24 PM)
Mochi : ur joey still small plus u just getting it rite? now wanna add 1 more liao?? biggrin.gif

Hun : dunno what's wrong with Dakota... >< last nite I fed her yogurt and she likes it very much!! but when I fed worms.. she only eat about 4-5 mealies.. after that she dun want anymore. I put in from of her mouth and she try to move dun wan to eat.

Any idea what's wrong?
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I think she is just wants a change. It's ok if she doesn't take alot of mealies. Worry only when she really do not want any food. Gliders actually like change, sometimes like human, if we eat something similar everyday, we also get bored. eheheh

QUOTE(JonYeap @ Sep 21 2008, 02:45 PM)
25th october gathering. =.=
probably can make it.
fluff rite?
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Yups, at fluff coz the space there is suitable.

QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Sep 21 2008, 02:55 PM)
muchan - i had sg before and i only had 1, soon after it died. becoz sg need to live in groups a. So this time im getting 2 . Dunwan die again aaaaa


Added on September 21, 2008, 2:56 pmThanks hun for the info, as always.. so informative. biggrin.gif


Added on September 21, 2008, 2:57 pmTts great! can feed kibbles.. i got lots.lol.
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It won't die if you get from a proper breeder who has given it a good diet and you take care of it like a baby. Those that die normally wrong diet or feel alone. Most of us start out with 1 joey 1st, and they rarely die from loneliness if we always spend lots of time. Get a pouch ah, then it would be easier to carry you lil Cheetah around.

Kibbles ah, remember feed 2 pieces only a day. Too much is not so good for them.

QUOTE(tee_jay @ Sep 21 2008, 03:40 PM)
hehehe... my lil girl cute leh....
can't wait for her to join her extended family...
especially her new mate bubba...
sometimes he feels left out till we put in a lil cow toy in his cage...
everyday can see him hug & roll around the cow... wub.gif
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Cow? You gave him a cow? LOL.... Viola is a very good mealworm eater. Saw her attack a mealworm, she got a very dainty structure, wonder how she would react if see big Bubba LOL.

QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Sep 21 2008, 03:44 PM)
muchan: im getting another joey in few more days time from breeder. XD

OT: hey .. u snapped that pic? Esssh..


Added on September 21, 2008, 3:45 pmeh wad u all give as toys for ur gilders a.
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You can decorate your cage with ropes or plastic chains from hardware store. Get the Cage Stuff from KP.... you can get wood chews from pet shack or chinchillas in garage sales. Remember only use apple wood.

QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Sep 21 2008, 04:02 PM)
22October can ar?  tongue.gif
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22 october weekday wor.... why leh? Weekend not better meh?

QUOTE(Jamien @ Sep 21 2008, 06:57 PM)
Hi Mochi! Congratulations on your new joey! Looks so cute!!

@hun: 25th will be nice. 18th is my dad's bday. >"<

cry.gif End up couldn't bring Frey cuz no place in the trunk for her temporary cage... I heard from my bf that eventhough he playing with her, she will start barking with her ears down... Miss me I guess... Cuz I miss her!!
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Har? aiyoh, you sure miss Frey. Did you try the instant Slurp on her? If she is barking alot, means she is calling for you. She very very miss you.

QUOTE(faerieC @ Sep 21 2008, 08:46 PM)
erm..i just put 3 small soft toy, sometimes she can climb on it or sumo wif it. haha laugh.gif
apple/peach orchard stick(got 2 flavors), can be found at some pet shop. but i get it at Pet Shack.
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Peach stick is toxic to gliders. Any peach wood, cherry wood.... toxic. Won't die, it would just cause them to go giddy and feverish, like kena food poisoning.
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QUOTE(silverwineus @ Sep 21 2008, 11:06 PM)
Hi Hun , long time didn't drop by here, biz season rclxub.gif hehe...Kiah and Kapi still the same?
Seeya.. wave.gif
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Hi silver,

Heheh, miss you here. Kiah and Kapi doing all right. Kapi is getting rounder, just plain fat now LOL.

QUOTE(electroyid @ Sep 21 2008, 11:27 PM)
a guy frm pet wonderland told me...
"if a female is matured and didnt mate with male...there is tendency for that female get sick..."
wow..is dat real or juz a lie...
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Har?
That is more for ferrets.... not glider LOL.
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post Sep 22 2008, 12:16 AM

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Is there any female around? If there is a female around, then it is normal. If it sticks out, but goes back in then is normal. If it hangs the whole time without going back in, then it is a problem.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Sep 22 2008, 12:48 AM)
jcmf, you've gotten your gliders already? How are you (and them)? biggrin.gif

rclxm9.gif And my bf just sent over Frey~~ Miss her so much. She looks a bit traumatized though.
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Sure she miss you lah, her mama and also her playmate.

QUOTE(jcmf @ Sep 22 2008, 12:54 AM)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
d guy ffk me......

haizz...
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Wah.... now how?
Search again loh hehehh.... but sure you damn disappointed now.
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Sep 22 2008, 05:53 AM)
saw a poor underage sugar glider for sale 2day a piramid~
so poor thing hangging on da ceilling by itself n all wet~  sad.gif
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The joeys there are really underage. Like 3 weeks OOP.... but they tell people it is 4 months old LOL.... when I went there, showed them 5 month old, they were like, how come so big? Customer ask them, they just say theirs for sale are babies, mine adult.... apalah....

QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Sep 22 2008, 08:04 AM)
hun, can get wad to file the nails a? coz cheetah nails very sharp. when Climbing around me very pain.. somemore after climbing my skin got red red dots a.. @@

Tried the egg yest, cheetah ate only the yolk. lol. can giv him whole yolk ? shall i giv him again today?
3 more photos taken yesterday.
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Look at the tinnnny weeny little headhead.. awww~~
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Best is cut. File, useless.... they do not like it when we use a file on their nails. If use those nail trimmers for wheels, can lah, but it takes some time to use. Some people say it doesn't work and they have resorted to cutting the nails weekly.

Red spots is normal, it is just irritation and your skin reacting to wounds.

If he eat just the yolk, best is just give twice a week. He needs to eat the egg white. Nevermind lah, Slurp got egg and chicken, he will get good stuff.

QUOTE(MiJaH @ Sep 22 2008, 09:51 AM)
hun,we went to fluff on sat but shayne said u cant come coz of diarrhea..
how r u now?hope u're ok..

btw,my bro tried putting Ecah & Elly together yesterday..
he said they get a long quite ok initially,then Ecah started chasing Elly..
i'm not sure if she's attacking Elly or just playing around,but my bro said no crabbing..so i suppose they're just fooling around mayb..
anyway,he separated them again coz afraid they'll fight while he's sleeping..
so now Elly is in Ecah's cage...n Ecah is in a small cage inside her cage which is now Elly's cage..wah b'belit2 ayat..lol
hope they'll be fine..

i leave both Ecah & Elly at home coz i'm gonna be very bz this week..afraid they wont get enough attention from me..at least,at home my bro can play with them..
but i feel so sooo lonely without them..
last nite cant sleep coz there's no sound of them playing..
no barking from Ecah asking me to manja kan her..isk.. sad.gif
uwaa cant wait to get home on fri..gonna smooch them until they lemas! lol  blush.gif
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Hi Mijah

Yes, Shayne told me. I had food poisoning for a few days, so couldn't make it. Even Reanne. This Sunday I would be at Fluff. Saturday not so free.

I think Ecah is warming up to Elly. If no crabbing, just chasing around then it is ok. Maybe Ecah wants to groom Elly. Another week and I think you can put Ecah and Elly together.

Sure miss them wan. I also miss my gliders if I do not see them for some time.

QUOTE(luc @ Sep 22 2008, 11:27 AM)
hurrmmmm can i give my tanobi boiled eggs?....i tried, but she crabs like no body's business..why is tat?
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Yes, you can give. Crabbing is when they are scared and unsure, so they make the sound to show their emotion. Normal with joeys that see something new for the 1st time.
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QUOTE(luc @ Sep 22 2008, 12:10 PM)
her fav is apple, mango and the best part i always brings her to mamak, and she loves TEH O SUAM!........wat the heck.......weird
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Wah, careful. Tea is addictive to them coz got caffeine. LOL.

QUOTE(pink_baby @ Sep 22 2008, 02:44 PM)
I fed my minnie with watermelon n she love it...just tat her poo poo a bit watery & red...also pee alot.. XD will try gave her other diff kinds of fruits for her to try...n boiled eggs too...duno she'll like it or not..  hmm.gif
btw..are every sg looks alike?? cuz seems each of them not much diff other than female & male... tongue.gif
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Go to those fruit stalls, buy those RM1 cut fruits. Each day you buy 2 packets of different fruits. Then it is not a waste loh. I used to do that when I only had 2 gliders, now with 9, I buy the whole fruit at supermarkets and wetmarkets.

When you get to know your gliders, you can tell them apart. Today Muchan was with me at Fluff, I could differentiate 4 of my gliders together. She also pening coz dunno which is which. I have 9 and I can differentiate each one.

QUOTE(faerieC @ Sep 22 2008, 04:34 PM)
ohh..lucky tht time i bought is apple stick. thks for de info ya.
they can drink tea arr? shocking.gif how bout other drink? cos i just give Milly plain water.
fed apples & watermelon oni... can so fast feel ur Minnie grow arr?

my Milly wif me alrd 3-weeks, just feel she fat a bit only(maybe too bond wif her evday)
i fed her 8-mealworms + 1-teaspoon smoothies + fruits evday. sometimes add hard boiled egg / chicken meat & yogurt.

have u start intro mealworms to Minnie? gliders need nutrients from mealworms. can get from those fish/bird shop. but remember to gutloads them b4 feed to Minnie.

i'm also learning to give as much care for my Milly. hope she can grow faster & healthier too blush.gif
there's a lot info we can get from so many Sifu here!  notworthy.gif  rclxms.gif
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You can get those boxed fruit juice drinks that has no added sugar or preservatives. Apple juice is good, cranberry juice is good to cleanse their body, mango juice is a very lovely treat, especially those 100% mango puree.

A tip. Say if you saw your glider pee or poo and it hisses, it means it has problems peeing or has constipation. A teaspoon of apple juice helps. It can be freshly squeezed apple juice.

If a glider is dehydrated or has diarrhea, you can give it Gatorade to drink or 100+ with the gas shaken out. I prefer Gatorade coz it has no CO2 in it while 100+ has CO2.

QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Sep 22 2008, 05:04 PM)
i planned to change the previous fluffy to some new one.. Cant make up my mind thou.. Any idea?

CAIRO, OK not? i think will stick to this la.. Permanently.

Yup, this is the fluffy i babysit, he will live with me from now on.. hehe tongue.gif and he is now known as CAIRO!!
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Wah, nice name!

QUOTE(Sophiera @ Sep 22 2008, 07:26 PM)
What about thompson seedless grapes? I think it's the seed that causes problems, not the fruit right?

Or this time the fruit got problem also
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Any grapes may cause a problem to gliders.... we are just being cautious. Research shows that we should avoid grapes, soy, beans and tofu for gliders. Some breeders or people may say can take, they have been feeding for years but then small damage can be done in their bodies without us knowing it. Not everyone takes their animals for an autopsy after their death so there is little research and studies on this thing.

Seeds of course would cause a problem, like cherry stones, peach stones, apple seeds.... but apparently the fruit could be a problem too.
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Good of you to be concern. That's what a glider community should do. Anyway, good advice electroyid.

Ok guys. We confirm dates. 25 October is the gathering. Please spread the word. Anyone is welcome for the gathering.


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Looks like people already answered. Inbreeding sometimes may not show physical defects but then it can be say shortened life span, brain defects....
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LOL... down syndrome pulak.... dunno what defects can happen from gliders inbreeding.... but can say sure will have if bro and sis breed. This goes for all animals and humans.

Yups, gathering 25 October. Fluff pet store. 4pm onwards. I will update with what to expect for the gathering. Gonna be fun!
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LOL, most insects have good nutrients for gliders. Overseas, people feed their gliders silkworms, feeder roaches, crickets, some even feed maggots.... LOL... but don't be a smart person go longkang catch cockroach or rubbish dump find maggots. The ones I mentioned are farmed feeders.
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I saw a glider snatch a cicak from my hands.... LOL.... no need Youtube.

Gliders are omnivorous. They would eat eggs, baby birds and insects in the wild when they crave protein. I guess even lizards.
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LOL.... as usual I will bring my Terrible Threes. It doesn't matter got glider or no glider, bring 1 or 10, all are welcome to join.
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Suggie Gathering at FLUFF Pet Store!!!!!

First, how to go to Fluff Pet store?
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FLUFF is just above the Lazo Daimond shop, beside Soda boutique. Look out of the signboard. Find 100C Steamboat, and you can find FLUFF.

Contact: 603- 7885 0745

H-1-3, Block H,
No.2, Jalan PJU 1A/41B,
Pusat Dagangan NZX,
47310, Petaling Jaya,
Selangor, Malaysia.


Date: 25 October 2008
Time: 4pm onwards



The 1st Official Sugar Glider at FLUFF Pet Store. It is gonna be a very fun event. We got food, lucky draw and some little games for you and your pets. Those without gliders can join the fun, come babysit other people's gliders if they let you.

Here is a rough detail of what to expect from the gathering.

- QnA session
- Glider buffet table, free food testing for gliders.
- Humans also get some food and drinks laugh.gif
- Lucky draw. Winner gets a very nice goody bag.
- Some discounted items for gliders
- Games session. I won't blurt out what games we will have. Surprise for you guys heheheh.
- Photo session rclxm9.gif

Bring your friends if they wanna come.

RULES:

All glider owners should bring their own bonding pouch to keep your gliders in safely when it needs a rest.
All glider owners should bring a packet of tissue to standby. Wipe up your glider's pee and poo.
No one should bring sick gliders or joeys.
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Today I saw PLC at sunway selling lots of treats for small animals.... Kaytee has yogurt drops. Cheap, 1 pack RM13.... but then it has ethoxyquin, a harmful preservative. Then got some weird brands with veggie balls.... and dunno what drops. I still trust Marukan.... even though RM20 plus for 1 pack.
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What is what? ethoxyquin ?
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http://www.avianweb.com/ethoxyquin.htm

ethoxyquin
It's a preservative used in alot of pet food. It's also a pesticide. Can you imagine a glider eat pesticide?

Kaytee is a brand. Marukan is a brand.... you know the dried fruit treats Pet Shack sells? The one in cubes? That is marukan brand. Good stuff.
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Sep 23 2008, 08:33 AM)
No la, its not an underaged suggie, 3mths plus de.

hey if i dunwan to feed insects, can i substitube by juz feeding smoothies, chicken and eggs?
I read from a website it says can feed bread coz it contains certain sugar that can balance duno wad already.. Is it true? I try to giv cheetah a piece and he love it.
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But he don't look 3 months. To me like 8 weeks only. Some people just never know the age, simply say to make people buy. This happens with some petshops.

Cannot substitute insects. If you scared of insects, then shouldn't get glider in the 1st place loh.

Bread is a nono....

Go to petshop to feed mealworms is the worst thing to do. Why? Coz the petshops only feed them with oats and cucumber, some only give bread and some never feed at all. Not all petshops gutload the mealworms properly. Crickets from petshops are worst coz they can be contaminated with the food they eat. So that is why must gutload mealworms and crickets if possible, 24 hours before feeding to any animal.

QUOTE(luc @ Sep 23 2008, 08:38 AM)
at first i dont know, but then, i noticed something abuot her...usually when at mamak, i will take her out and play play...then i will order my drink..then when mamak come with my teh o suam.....she will like snif snif snif...then she got down to the table and start to go to my cup.....then i put some of the teh o on the spoon...(usually mamak got spoon and fork on table ma)....and leave it on the table..she will pandai pandai drink that.......what a beautiful sight.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Thanks for the info man...but me damn GELI with that worm wei....i dunno what to do edi.....now i think i need to find a substitute of millies for protein to tanobi...how ah????
you guys got gathering ah......damn...i cannot come la..cause i will be working..some more puasa month....and working at cyberjaya!....argh!!......
ps: do we have any way to make the tail goes kembang?...or just have to wait.....?
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Cannot geli worm lah. You have to feed mealworms or crickets. It is like making a dog eat only rice and no meat for it. We cannot deprive them of their natural needs.

Cyberjaya, got a few members from cyber. Just look around hehehe..... the gathering 25 October yah.

QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Sep 23 2008, 01:00 PM)
Nice... nezu.

i think i got a way.. bring to petshop ask them feed for me. last time my hedgehog also like tat. u guys rm1 big bag, i rm1 for 1 meal of mealies. lol
where can i get branches a?
and can i feed bread a??
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Our local trees, majority are toxic to gliders. So the best are hibiscus trees and Guava trees. Even in Singapore, parrot keepers give guava trees coz they know other trees are toxic for parrots.

Rambutan trees, mango trees, ciku trees.... only fruits are safe, the tree is not.

QUOTE(shutterstar @ Sep 23 2008, 01:56 PM)
from wat i read..we can use hibiscus brunch n jambu brunch oni...yg lain sume toxic for the sg..
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Yups. Yang lain got toxic sap and bark. It's very hard to find a reference on which tree is safe, especially trees we have here. Another tree that can be used is Willow tree....

QUOTE(luc @ Sep 23 2008, 02:01 PM)
just would like to ask advise from all sifoo, can i put some food in the bonding pouch?....cause usually when i bring him to everywhere i go, she got no food, so can i put ilke slice of apple for example inside the pouch?..is it advisable?
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Yes, you can put food in it but make sure you take it out at the end of the day. Later got rotting fruit inside.

QUOTE(pink_baby @ Sep 23 2008, 02:26 PM)
i'd been trying to feed minnie apple, mango, watermelon & cherry tomatoes...most of it she also like to eat...thinking to try some other which she haven't try...just curious whether can i can feed banana for sg?? hmm.gif
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Best not to feed bananas. It's high in sugar and also high in phosphorus. Stick with recommended fruits like papaya, guava, mango, custard apple.... well, take the 1st page as reference.

QUOTE(^ lia ^ @ Sep 23 2008, 03:09 PM)
my meeko doesn’t like to eat slurp.. i already try 3 flavor.. huhu..  sad.gif
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What flavour wor?

QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Sep 23 2008, 03:50 PM)
Jambu Batu.. And for ur information, in Malaysia, there r Eucalyptus trees ya.. Just have to find them n begin sawing!! So later i can sell eucalyptus branches d.. haha tongue.gif
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Yes, got eucalyptus. I know 3 areas with these trees.... one is near bandar kinrara(if I get it right, need Eka to confirm it), another is puchong, outside one building but very young trees, another is at a place where people like to fly kites.... I forgot what park it is called. BIG trees by the roadside, a few were recently chopped down.

QUOTE(electroyid @ Sep 23 2008, 03:55 PM)
ok guys... got that... but jambu air i can juz pick it in front my granma house...jambu batu...have to go n find first la... btw...
giving sugar cane + water melon.. izit ok...?? or their poo gona b wet..???
coz i notice... not so wet poo... n izit acidic...??
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Well, it will be wet coz sugar cane the fibers cannot eat, so they just take the juice. Watermelon is loaded with water than fiber, so it would make the poop very soft. Feed a high fiber food like apple.

QUOTE(faerieC @ Sep 23 2008, 04:12 PM)
once they bcome pupae also can feed to sugies ar? hmm.gif
my mealworms got few alrd change skin. now bcome white...i tot cannot give sugie eat. den i throw away jor  unsure.gif
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Those are like the best.

QUOTE(Gr3eN @ Sep 23 2008, 04:21 PM)
Pupae can feed to glider?
Is it safe?
Becuz i saw the pupae's body gt sumting tajam o..
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It's safe. Those pupaes are soft. If tajam, you should see cricket legs....

QUOTE(electroyid @ Sep 23 2008, 04:42 PM)
new info...
new vet know bout sugar glider...
Animal medical centre
wisma medivet,8,
jln Tun Razak, 50400,
K.L..
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You sure safe? The clinic is well know to give high high prices. Who is the dr?

QUOTE(pink_baby @ Sep 23 2008, 04:57 PM)
is it suitable for sg too??  hmm.gif
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The link for iguanas, the list of food, can be followed. Reptiles also cannot take food high in phosphorus, same like gliders. Both animals need high calcium foods.

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QUOTE(mattemily_85 @ Sep 23 2008, 05:18 PM)
really blur to combine the ratio...

can some sifoos teach ar?
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For example

Papaya 100 grams Raw 24cal 5phos = ratio is 4.8:1

This shows that the ratio of calcium in the fruit is more than the recommended 2:1 ratio. The 2 is calcium, the 1 is phosphorus.

Banana 100 grams Raw 6cal 20phos = ratio is 0.3:1

Banana has a ratio of 0.3 calcium to 1 phosphorus.... very bad ratio as the calcium is below the 2:1 recommended ratio.
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Why susah? LOL, just get mealworms in a container, and give some veggie. Let it eat in 24 hours, then later feed to glider loh.

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