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post Sep 16 2008, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Sep 15 2008, 11:39 AM)
OT: please reorder the 1st page; rules set to last; guide 1st. icon_rolleyes.gif follow v2 sequence.
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The rules will stay as the first post, through sometimes I wonder why I bother sometimes, as Malaysian's can never seem to follow any form of rules unless they have a gun at their head or bribed. However, I have rearranged the guides, the immigration information and the members list.
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post Sep 16 2008, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(HyeoshinX @ Sep 16 2008, 01:34 PM)
do i still need to apply to of the preferred uni? like, must i apply for Melb. U, Monash, UNSW, and RMIT?

EDIT: I just applied for Melb. U and Monash. And I'm afraid that some complications would arrise  rclxub.gif
        plus, it says thati  have to pay for the application, but the fee is waived but i dont have any verification code or anything ~~ so confusing ahh rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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If the application fee is waived,why not?

I applied for all Go8 unis and a few ATN unis last year.

If not,just apply the uni that you want to go the most.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 16 2008, 02:17 PM)
If the application fee is waived,why not?

I applied for all Go8 unis and a few ATN unis last year.

If not,just apply the uni that you want to go the most.
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That will be Melb. U. I already applied for the uni. but i feel insecure when i applied for Monash as well..kinda feeling uncomfortable.

EDIT: I already registered myself..and listed my preference courses for Monash already..but it said in the application list: Non-Submitted Applications with the list of the courses.. thats fine isn't it?

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post Sep 16 2008, 02:54 PM

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I got several questions about studying in Australia.
Personal Info:
Currently studying Form 6. Stpm 2008(this year).
Taking 4 subjects. Physics,Chemistry,Maths,General Studies.
Ambition: Engineer
SPM Results: Bm A1 Eng A1 Physics A1 Chem A1 Bio A2 Maths A1 Add.maths A1 Moral B3 EST B3 History C5
1119:A2

Questions:
1)What are the requirements to apply for Bachelor of Engineering? Like how good should my STPM results be? Forecast results(needed?)? Or do I need to sit any additional exams?
2)Bachelor of Engineering does it mean Mechanical? Electrical? Mechatronics? Or neither?
3)Currently interested in ANU , University of Melbourne , University of Sydney , University of Queensland(The universities that could get JPA scholarships). Where and how do I apply?
4)Do I need to contact/hire a 3rd party to apply?
5)When is the application deadline?
6)When is their intake?
7)Do I need to prepare a personal statement and a recommendation letter from my teacher?

8)Out of topic. If I were to get a place in one of the university. How good/bad or my chances of getting the JPA PSD scholarship?

This post has been edited by Lim Ling Yang: Sep 16 2008, 03:06 PM
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post Sep 16 2008, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 16 2008, 03:10 PM)
The rules will stay as the first post, through sometimes I wonder why I bother sometimes, as Malaysian's can never seem to follow any form of rules unless they have a gun at their head or bribed. However, I have rearranged the guides, the immigration information and the members list.
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yes now its right. Bold the rules; i just feel kinda long to read..cant it simplify to be easier understand

QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Sep 16 2008, 03:54 PM)
I got several questions about studying in Australia.
Personal Info:
Currently studying Form 6. Stpm 2008(this year).
Taking 4 subjects. Physics,Chemistry,Maths,General Studies.
Ambition: Engineer
SPM Results: Bm A1 Eng A1 Physics A1 Chem A1 Bio A2 Maths A1 Add.maths A1 Moral B3 EST B3 History C5
1119:A2

Questions:
1)What are the requirements to apply for Bachelor of Engineering?
2)Bachelor of Engineering does it mean Mechanical? Electrical? Mechatronics? Or neither?
3)Currently interested in ANU , University of Melbourne , University of Sydney , University of Qeensland. Where do I apply?
4)When is the application deadline?
5)When is their intake?
6)What are the requirements? Like how good should my STPM results be? Forecast results(needed?)?  Or do I need to sit any additional exams?
7)Do I need to prepare a personal statement and a recommendation letter from my teacher?
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1. Bac. Engineering entry requirements based on Uni`s; it varies for each unis.
2. You can be doing Chem; Mech or etc but still graduated with a General Bach. Engineering.
3. Apply all of them; which will take you in.
4. Application dateline varies for each Uni`s; the earlier you applied the better the chances.
5. Most University intake is Feb & July.
6. This depends on the Uni you applied for your Bach. Engineering.
7. I dont think so.


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post Sep 16 2008, 03:11 PM

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So where could I get the info for the requirements and where do I apply?
Current location is Subang Jaya , Selangor.


This post has been edited by Lim Ling Yang: Sep 16 2008, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Sep 16 2008, 02:54 PM)
I got several questions about studying in Australia.
Personal Info:
Currently studying Form 6. Stpm 2008(this year).
Taking 4 subjects. Physics,Chemistry,Maths,General Studies.
Ambition: Engineer
SPM Results: Bm A1 Eng A1 Physics A1 Chem A1 Bio A2 Maths A1 Add.maths A1 Moral B3 EST B3 History C5
1119:A2

Questions:
1)What are the requirements to apply for Bachelor of Engineering? Like how good should my STPM results be? Forecast results(needed?)?  Or do I need to sit any additional exams?
2)Bachelor of Engineering does it mean Mechanical? Electrical? Mechatronics? Or neither?
3)Currently interested in ANU , University of Melbourne , University of Sydney , University of Queensland(The universities that could get JPA scholarships). Where and how do I apply?
4)Do I need to contact/hire a 3rd party to apply?
5)When is the application deadline?
6)When is their intake?
7)Do I need to prepare a personal statement and a recommendation letter from my teacher?

8)Out of topic. If I were to get a place in one of the university. How good/bad or my chances of getting the JPA PSD scholarship?
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JPA scholarships to overseas are only available to SPM leavers, right? Why din you apply after your SPM?
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post Sep 16 2008, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 16 2008, 02:10 PM)
The rules will stay as the first post, through sometimes I wonder why I bother sometimes, as Malaysian's can never seem to follow any form of rules unless they have a gun at their head or bribed. However, I have rearranged the guides, the immigration information and the members list.
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Chill chill haya... sweat.gif

This current format suits me just fine... I don't see any problem in this, or in the previous one.

Then again, let's be honest here... How many people actually take the trouble to read the very first page, esp when the thread is already 100+ pages long?

QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Sep 16 2008, 03:11 PM)
So where could I get the info for the requirements and where do I apply?
Current location is Subang Jaya , Selangor.
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Subang? Opposite Taylor's College... IDP, AusEd, and the other one at the corner... can't remember the name... just pick one. IDP and AusEd are more geared twds Australian Unis obviously. Or if you're from Taylor's, you could just go to the placement centre and ask.

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QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Sep 16 2008, 03:11 PM)
So where could I get the info for the requirements and where do I apply?
Current location is Subang Jaya , Selangor.
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ever heard of something called the internet and mr. google???.......

all the uni websites are there, do your own research.....

for engineering, a ter of 80 will get you in comfortably, as an international fees paying student.....that is like BBC at stpm......pretty low requirements for engineering.......

you choose what branch of engineering you wanna enrole in....

anu is the best oz uni at the moment.......avoid melbourne, overpriced......any other go8 uni is fine.......

subang, go see idp........opposite taylor's.....

2 intakes a year, feb and july........

no need anything, just your results and money.......you will have problem with the feb intake as you results will not be on time, so try the july intake......
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QUOTE(alwayshappy @ Sep 16 2008, 03:24 PM)
JPA scholarships to overseas are only available to SPM leavers, right? Why din you apply after your SPM?
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STPM graduates scholarship also available now. Well if can enter the top us,uk,or australia universities.

QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 16 2008, 03:26 PM)
Subang? Opposite Taylor's College... IDP, AusEd, and the other one at the corner... can't remember the name... just pick one. IDP and AusEd are more geared twds Australian Unis obviously. Or if you're from Taylor's, you could just go to the placement centre and ask.
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Thx . IDP it is then. Would go there once free.

QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 16 2008, 03:34 PM)
ever heard of something called the internet and mr. google???.......

all the uni websites are there, do your own research.....

for engineering, a ter of 80 will get you in comfortably, as an international fees paying student.....that is like BBC at stpm......pretty low requirements for engineering.......

you choose what branch of engineering you wanna enrole in....

anu is the best oz uni at the moment.......avoid melbourne, overpriced......any other go8 uni is fine.......

subang, go see idp........opposite taylor's.....

2 intakes a year, feb and july........

no need anything, just your results and money.......you will have problem with the feb intake as you results will not be on time, so try the july intake......
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Googling and searching. I have like 20+ tabs right now about studyataustralia.gov.au and ielts.
BBC for stpm? Hmmm you sure?




Just called:
Ms Sazliny Jahaya
Information Officer
AEI Malaysia
Australian High Commission
6 Jalan Yap Kwan Seng
50450 KUALA LUMPUR

Required to have STPM result for unconditional letter.
Or forecast results for conditional letter.
Deadline October to Disember?
MUST take IELTS.(True right?)

About the IELTS right. How hard/easy is it? What is the format?

This post has been edited by Lim Ling Yang: Sep 16 2008, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Sep 16 2008, 03:43 PM)
About the IELTS right. How hard/easy is it? What is the format?
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do we have guide for IELTS? if not, we should pin up one at first post ... wub.gif
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anu is the best oz uni at the moment.......


Agreed biggrin.gif
If you are a really good student, take note that ANU offers several scholarships to international students. The ANU International Undergraduate Scholarship covers full tuition fees and health insurance. Look out for the ANU Malaysian Alumni Scholarship too. It'll be advertised in the papers I think. It offers full tuition fees and 10k AUD stipend per year.

As for the entry requirements, yes, it's pretty low for engineering. Don't be fooled into thinking that it's because the course is easier. Entry requirements are pretty much based on supply and demand so I guess they have more places for engineering than they do for courses like medicine.

Bachelor of Engineering is the degree you'll be doing. You can then choose to major in one (or more) of those fields.
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QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Sep 16 2008, 05:43 PM)
STPM graduates scholarship also available now. Well if can enter the top us,uk,or australia universities.
Thx . IDP it is then. Would go there once free.
Googling and searching. I have like 20+ tabs right now about studyataustralia.gov.au and ielts.
BBC for stpm? Hmmm you sure?
Just called:
Ms Sazliny Jahaya
Information Officer
AEI Malaysia
Australian High Commission
6 Jalan Yap Kwan Seng
50450 KUALA LUMPUR

Required to have STPM result for unconditional letter.
Or forecast results for conditional letter.
Deadline October to Disember?
MUST take IELTS.(True right?)

About the IELTS right. How hard/easy is it? What is the format?
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i might come off as a snob here but hey, so be it. but since you're googling, google up the IELTS site as well.

but since you've already opened up 20+ tabs and cant bother opening up another one, let me just say that in IELTS, there's comprehension, listening, writing and speaking modules. i dont know if MUET is accepted but IELTS is generally used to determine your competency in English for entry into unis here. how hard or easy it is for you i don't know. different people different levels of difficulty.
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i might come off as a snob here but hey, so be it. but since you're googling, google up the IELTS site as well.


I'm with you on that. It puzzles me why people can't do a simple google search before asking questions. In fact, posting on a forum takes more effort than googling.
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can anyone pin up some guide for IELTS? maybe some tips on how to score well?

I will be taking IELTS on the 4th of October, and i'm really worried right now.

And can anyone just gives their opinion on the carreer prospect in aus? I'm currently taking cambridge a levels and i'm pretty much confused which course should i take. Most probably will be engineering but unsure which branch I am taking. Quite interested in electric, mechanical and alternative energy smile.gif
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QUOTE(kehler @ Sep 16 2008, 08:15 PM)
I'm with you on that. It puzzles me why people can't do a simple google search before asking questions. In fact, posting on a forum takes more effort than googling.
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i blame it on the education system. with this attitude don't expect to survive long in Aus if you expect to be spoonfed everything

QUOTE(raymones89 @ Sep 16 2008, 08:43 PM)
can anyone pin up some guide for IELTS? maybe some tips on how to score well?

I will be taking IELTS on the 4th of October, and i'm really worried right now.

And can anyone just gives their opinion on the carreer prospect in aus? I'm currently taking cambridge a levels and i'm pretty much confused which course should i take. Most probably will be engineering but unsure which branch I am taking. Quite interested in electric, mechanical and alternative energy  smile.gif
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the thing is, IELTS is just like any other English exam. just do whatever you do to prepare for your previous English exams.
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QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Sep 16 2008, 02:54 PM)
I got several questions about studying in Australia.
Personal Info:
Currently studying Form 6. Stpm 2008(this year).
Taking 4 subjects. Physics,Chemistry,Maths,General Studies.
Ambition: Engineer
SPM Results: Bm A1 Eng A1 Physics A1 Chem A1 Bio A2 Maths A1 Add.maths A1 Moral B3 EST B3 History C5
1119:A2

Questions:
1)What are the requirements to apply for Bachelor of Engineering? Like how good should my STPM results be? Forecast results(needed?)?  Or do I need to sit any additional exams?
2)Bachelor of Engineering does it mean Mechanical? Electrical? Mechatronics? Or neither?
3)Currently interested in ANU , University of Melbourne , University of Sydney , University of Queensland(The universities that could get JPA scholarships). Where and how do I apply?
4)Do I need to contact/hire a 3rd party to apply?
5)When is the application deadline?
6)When is their intake?
7)Do I need to prepare a personal statement and a recommendation letter from my teacher?

8)Out of topic. If I were to get a place in one of the university. How good/bad or my chances of getting the JPA PSD scholarship?
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I would say consider University of New South Wales,if you are going to Sydney.They are better in engineering than U Syd and they offer wider options for engineering courses.
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QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Sep 16 2008, 03:43 PM)
STPM graduates scholarship also available now. Well if can enter the top us,uk,or australia universities.
Thx . IDP it is then. Would go there once free.
Googling and searching. I have like 20+ tabs right now about studyataustralia.gov.au and ielts.
BBC for stpm? Hmmm you sure?
Just called:
Ms Sazliny Jahaya
Information Officer
AEI Malaysia
Australian High Commission
6 Jalan Yap Kwan Seng
50450 KUALA LUMPUR

Required to have STPM result for unconditional letter.
Or forecast results for conditional letter.
Deadline October to Disember?
MUST take IELTS.(True right?)

About the IELTS right. How hard/easy is it? What is the format?
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Although STPM is way harder than A-level, the entry requirements for engineering using STPM will be higher than A-level.
For higher ranked uni in Aus, an aggregate point of 3.33 or around B+B+B+ should be sufficient to enter.
Actually you will find out that first year maths in engineering course will be pretty easy as you learnt most of them in STPM. Year 12 in Australia only cover basic stuff.
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QUOTE(QuackSilver @ Sep 16 2008, 05:53 PM)
i might come off as a snob here but hey, so be it. but since you're googling, google up the IELTS site as well.

but since you've already opened up 20+ tabs and cant bother opening up another one, let me just say that in IELTS, there's comprehension, listening, writing and speaking modules. i dont know if MUET is accepted but IELTS is generally used to determine your competency in English for entry into unis here. how hard or easy it is for you i don't know. different people different levels of difficulty.
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QUOTE(QuackSilver @ Sep 16 2008, 07:21 PM)
i blame it on the education system. with this attitude don't expect to survive long in Aus if you expect to be spoonfed everything
the thing is, IELTS is just like any other English exam. just do whatever you do to prepare for your previous English exams.
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Oh I wasn't waiting to be spoonfed. I googled about it already. Just that, just now I was replying while I was still searching halfway.
Some of my college friends say MUET is accepted. Some say cant.....will call to inquire more tmr.
Anyways one question.
I would be taking the:
Listening
Academic Reading
Academic Writing
Speaking
Right?
And my minimum score would be?

QUOTE(kehler @ Sep 16 2008, 06:15 PM)
I'm with you on that. It puzzles me why people can't do a simple google search before asking questions. In fact, posting on a forum takes more effort than googling.
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I google. Open lots of tabs. Reply while waiting for the pages to load. Then only view the pages. Sorry if I offended you by posting before googling.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 16 2008, 07:23 PM)
I would say consider University of New South Wales,if you are going to Sydney.They are better in engineering than U Syd and they offer wider options for engineering courses.
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But the JPA list of accepted universities in australia for scholarship my friend sms-ed me was:
ANU
Uni Of Melbourne
Uni Of Sydney
Uni Of Queensland
Hmmm.....must call jpa to inquire also....

QUOTE(alwayshappy @ Sep 16 2008, 07:25 PM)
Although STPM is way harder than A-level, the entry requirements for engineering using STPM will be higher than A-level.
For higher ranked uni in Aus, an aggregate point of 3.33 or around B+B+B+ should be sufficient to enter.
Actually you will find out that first year maths in engineering course will be pretty easy as you learnt most of them in STPM. Year 12 in Australia only cover basic stuff.
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What? STPM needs higher requirements......why........

This post has been edited by Lim Ling Yang: Sep 16 2008, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Sep 16 2008, 08:03 PM)
Oh I wasn't waiting to be spoonfed. I googled about it already. Just that, just now I was replying while I was still searching halfway.
Some of my college friends say MUET is accepted. Some say cant.....will call to inquire more tmr.
Anyways one question.
I would be taking the:
Listening
Academic Reading
Academic Writing
Speaking
Right?
And my minimum score would be?
I google. Open lots of tabs. Reply while waiting for the pages to load. Then only view the pages. Sorry if I offended you by posting before googling.
But the JPA list of accepted universities in australia for scholarship my friend sms-ed me was:
ANU
Uni Of Melbourne
Uni Of Sydney
Uni Of Queensland
Hmmm.....must call jpa to inquire also....
What? STPM needs higher requirements......why........
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muet is generally not recognised outside of msia.....

the minimum score depends on the uni, but generally for general/technical courses (including engineering) it's 5.5 to 6.0, and for language intensive courses (medicine, laws etc) it's 6.5 to 7.0.....

if you are depending on a possible jpa scholarship, you better check with them which are considered 'ivy league'........as far as i know, non of the oz unis really qualify for ivy league status in the normal sense of the term (images of oxbridge, harvard, yale etc comes to mind), but of course jpa may have their own ideas.........

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