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My view is that no one knows how MS detects modded consoles. I have read on other forum where unmodded consoles got banned so how to explain. But of course after a lot of bickering the user got his console unbanned. Its not an isolated incident as i read it happened to a few users. Just my few pennies. That happened quite a while back so i might be wrong to assume. Probably MS has a different method of detection which we will never know. So enjoy what you have.

P.S. Its just my view ya so dont flame me. Cheers.

They are able to detect. Once there is some change in the key vault system, then they notice there is a change.


Some unmod got ban is due to old console having old dvd rom drive. they went and ban according to the degree of the spinning disc. This is all theory only. Some of the old dvd rom, which are worn out do spin more then it required so MS assume it was the doing of the firmware.

How MS work their system we don't know. If they want a ban wave, they can do it whenever they want to. Once you have mod, you are the next 1 for sure. You are not fighting with some moron crap who is idiot at software hacks.

Be safe, get the unmodded and have fun.

i wonder y flashing back original firmware with the very same key will result a change in key vault (whatever it is)?

depends. if you flash it with custom firmware and go online, then flash it back to ori and go online, you will get caught since they've recorded the key for the "flashed" one, not the ori one.

whatever it is, it's useless and very high risk. remember, you are jeopardizing a thousand ringgit machine's functionality here. once banned, if you want to go online, you gotta buy a new one for another thousand.

unless your money grows on trees, i dun see the point of giving too much money to MS anyway. not that they go no money already.

bcoz b4 this there is dashboard update
eventhough there is no ban on may think last uodate
there edi collect the data from all xbox machine
waiting time to launch it only

and new machine or never online machine
when online im sure there will asking for update
even nothing happen...the data has been store to ms data center



p/s:my feeling tell me..during GOW 2 launch..there will be 2nd banhammer

U might want to read about whats happening in the scene before making false allegation.
The 32character long KEY they injected into a custom firmware before they flash it to the drive is the very SAME KEY they extracted from the original firmware.
So either u keep the orig.bin or write it down, or reextract from the custom firmware, it will all be the same
inject into a original firmware, reflash, BAM -- i cant see y ms can detect it, as for the time of writing.

Its undeniable that no one really knows how ms detect modded firmware. Still, as for now they are not banning lot of flashed machine playing online.



Again, buying original is good.

Like your last statement.
Originally straight to the point.

indeed it is. just dont like how those "original supporters" squeezing thier wits on how to scare those ppl who r ignorant about whats happening in the scene.
I only tell facts.

And buying original is good, is, undoubtedly, a fact too.

interesting discussion here.

anyway if u play ORI only when sign-in to XBL, 100% won't get banned so TS no need to worry too much.

Well to throw in some more light here, one possible way for ms to detect a modded machine is to access the LOG of the console.

Many of the modding method requires one to switch on thier console without the drive data cable being plugged into the mobo in order to power the drive up. Therefore the machine might log down the error of not having a drive plugged in. this can then be a possible way for ms to ban all machine which having a log of no drive error in the entire log file, tho it seems rather arbitrary.

Even later u unmod your console there is no way u can delete this log. and thus u might get banned if ms ops for such a harsh banning method.

(to circumvent it, plug the drive to another xbox mobo to power it up)

heheh.. nice explanation.. just wanna share what i read somewhere.. while u do modding.. if u start the process without something they called kit (forgot what the thing) and just switch on the console to power up the dvd... it will write a log i dunno where save it, saying that the console is been on with certain2 hardware not attach.. so maybe m$ collecting the log.. who knows.. hehehe..

and i do read that a few unmod console also been ban.. dunno it's a mistake or rumors..

i do have modded console to play offline and unmodded console to play online.. more safer wooh..

agreed
agreed

because that's what happened to me. no false allegations. stop accusing me brainlessly pls.
i flashed one 360 before, went online, had it for about 6 months. then the dvd drive stopped working.
i changed to a new one (obviously different firmware), went online, straight kena banhammer.

i dun care what scene is saying la dude. i'm speaking from my personal experience.
and knowing how MS keep track on windows, in terms of methods of tracing hardware keys, i say they apply the same thing to 360.

so stop accusing me brainlessly ok.

and oh. my machine might be modded, but my games that i play online aren't. (i ahem worthless games only sometimes)

now i've come clean. no more ahem!


This post has been edited by technophile: Sep 5 2008, 04:43 PM

not having the drive in the log is still debatable. because if the console was taken for servicing, they might boot up the console while the cable is not plug in.

you change with the same drive model?
i assume you also flash the new drive with the firmware from old drive?

This post has been edited by xxboxx: Sep 6 2008, 02:21 AM

If anybody wants to switch their 60GB model Lite-On drives to the old drives, please PM me.
I have a spare Sammy for sale. And i think you sort of know why you want to get rid of those Lite-On drives eh

hahaha.. just like a 'pls help me topic' that turns out to be a more interesting discussion.. glad that i started it.. lots of info.. and BUY ORIGINAL la this time.. haha..

dont over discuss
later on
this thread will be invisible

so i think i got what im looking for.. and i am done making decision.. thread closed to prevent 'over discuss'..