QUOTE(shawn-mode @ Sep 28 2008, 03:41 PM)
Because Quad can't OC that much.And Phenom 9k over 3.2Ghz almost definitely needs water. The tri-cores don't.
AMD® Socket-AM2&AM2+ Overclocking V10, ~overcooking ur proc here~
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Sep 28 2008, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Sep 28 2008, 06:30 PM) Because Quad can't OC that much. I feel that same too...And Phenom 9k over 3.2Ghz almost definitely needs water. The tri-cores don't. Sacrifice one core for higher clock and gain some advantage in single core application and better 24/7 stability. Pros and cons... This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Sep 28 2008, 07:16 PM |
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Sep 28 2008, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Sep 28 2008, 04:36 PM) there's no ddr1066 for timing mode option in bios? QUOTE(X.E.D @ Sep 28 2008, 06:30 PM) Because Quad can't OC that much. B.E chips on SB750 board don't need WC... And Phenom 9k over 3.2Ghz almost definitely needs water. The tri-cores don't. |
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Sep 28 2008, 07:48 PM
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Only the lucky 9850s do that. 9950s can do it more consistently, but it's hot.
In a general case the 8750 gives you more breathing space while still delivering awesome GAMING experiences. Even if most games use 2 threads, the third is capable of handling Windows processes, so it is all good. |
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Sep 28 2008, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Sep 28 2008, 08:48 PM) Only the lucky 9850s do that. 9950s can do it more consistently, but it's hot. Are you using one?In a general case the 8750 gives you more breathing space while still delivering awesome GAMING experiences. Even if most games use 2 threads, the third is capable of handling Windows processes, so it is all good. |
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Sep 28 2008, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Sep 28 2008, 07:48 PM) Only the lucky 9850s do that. 9950s can do it more consistently, but it's hot. no doubt bout d heat as 9850/9950 chips are 125w & 140w, while 8750 (which basically a 9750 w/ one core fused off) are 95w. In a general case the 8750 gives you more breathing space while still delivering awesome GAMING experiences. Even if most games use 2 threads, the third is capable of handling Windows processes, so it is all good. but d problem w/ 8750 is d price, it costs as much as a 9650 (actually slightly higher). i would rather sacrifice some MHz for one extra core, this is d reason why i bought a 9550 b4 instead of gettin a toliman... |
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Sep 28 2008, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(shawn-mode @ Sep 28 2008, 07:51 PM) No, but I'm in the consideration for one, along with Deneb indecision.If the Deneb signifies the era of easy 3.5-4Ghz OCing for AMD, straight grab. @ah_khoo Generally the 9550s are the worst Phenom bins, which probably means they aren't that consistent on OCing, *especially* when it comes to HTT OCing, which is bad on the 65nm Phenoms. The Black Edition for the 8750 gives its worth. It should essentially guarantee you an easy 3Ghz X3 (don't kill me if it doesn't, but I'm fairly confident), which in most cases, should be faster than a 2.2Ghz X4. (Not when vs your 2.8Ghz OC though |
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Sep 28 2008, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Sep 28 2008, 08:07 PM) No, but I'm in the consideration for one, along with Deneb indecision. since 9550 doesn't come with unlocked multi so basically overclockin a 9550 mean overclockin d htt... If the Deneb signifies the era of easy 3.5-4Ghz OCing for AMD, straight grab. @ah_khoo Generally the 9550s are the worst Phenom bins, which probably means they aren't that consistent on OCing, *especially* when it comes to HTT OCing, which is bad on the 65nm Phenoms. The Black Edition for the 8750 gives its worth. It should essentially guarantee you an easy 3Ghz X3 (don't kill me if it doesn't, but I'm fairly confident), which in most cases, should be faster than a 2.2Ghz X4. (Not when vs your 2.8Ghz OC though when u can do nothing but to raise d htt, luck does play an important role. i've saw 9750 doin 3.5GHz which has d same steppin as my 9550 (ex to be exact), but d max htt i managed was 280 only... i can't blame it on luck (since i already had d same steppin like d god like 9750), so i got myself to blame (lousy oc skill). i believe d reason why amd clockers prefer agena (especially b.e chips) is becoz d price of tolimans not attractive enough. |
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Sep 28 2008, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Sep 28 2008, 08:38 PM) since 9550 doesn't come with unlocked multi so basically overclockin a 9550 mean overclockin d htt... personally, i dunno y amd come out with tri core anyways.. pricing also not that tempting..when u can do nothing but to raise d htt, luck does play an important role. i've saw 9750 doin 3.5GHz which has d same steppin as my 9550 (ex to be exact), but d max htt i managed was 280 only... i can't blame it on luck (since i already had d same steppin like d god like 9750), so i got myself to blame (lousy oc skill). i believe d reason why amd clockers prefer agena (especially b.e chips) is becoz d price of tolimans not attractive enough. either get a dual core if budget, or quad core if u have the money. seeing reviews at xs n rebel, quad core on the sb750 boards are already hitting over 3.2... which means now those quads can already oc high. |
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Sep 28 2008, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Sep 28 2008, 09:38 PM) since 9550 doesn't come with unlocked multi so basically overclockin a 9550 mean overclockin d htt... Agreed totally. I am buying a 9950 since I am not happy with my brother E8400.when u can do nothing but to raise d htt, luck does play an important role. i've saw 9750 doin 3.5GHz which has d same steppin as my 9550 (ex to be exact), but d max htt i managed was 280 only... i can't blame it on luck (since i already had d same steppin like d god like 9750), so i got myself to blame (lousy oc skill). i believe d reason why amd clockers prefer agena (especially b.e chips) is becoz d price of tolimans not attractive enough. Prefer quad core for better investment. |
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Sep 28 2008, 09:01 PM
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Sep 28 2008, 09:15 PM
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Sep 28 2008, 09:25 PM
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Sep 28 2008, 09:39 PM
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Should be Nvidia GTX 280.
Why dun go for Intel Quad then. -pWs- |
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Sep 28 2008, 09:42 PM
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Sep 28 2008, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 28 2008, 10:25 PM) n280? GTX 280 mate. Naa, just a normal 325i SE. so bro got solution alredi?? bmw owner?? no wonder hardware in progress superb I think he needs a quad core as well. He just bought a car and wedding coming soon. So he temporarily taxed out at the moment. Heehee. BMW owner is more poor than normal people most of the time. RM50 fuel consumption on a daily basis is a killer, luckily AB give me 3 years free maintenance. I'm planning for 4850 or 4870 1GB GS for crisis and hope can get some easy clock bump from the BE. Intel parts are a bit overpriced for premium boards and would prefer getting a mid range board, latest quad core and crossfire ready radeons in case I need quick gpu upgrade. Wont be planning such high OC and I more towards gaming and torrent as I use my notebook for work and browsing. 3.3Ghz clock for quad core should be sufficient for me. I need something that is stable for 24/7 abuse. Added on September 28, 2008, 9:52 pm QUOTE(-pWs- @ Sep 28 2008, 10:39 PM) Should balance out the competition. My notebook already using Intel.Lets give AMD some chance eh? Later if AMD dies we wont have this healthy competition. I was a Barton user before, so I hope the Phenom BE could impress me. This post has been edited by shawn-mode: Sep 28 2008, 09:52 PM |
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Sep 28 2008, 09:54 PM
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then DFI FTW!
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Sep 28 2008, 09:56 PM
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Sep 28 2008, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 28 2008, 09:42 PM) QUOTE(shawn-mode @ Sep 28 2008, 09:48 PM) Should balance out the competition. My notebook already using Intel. Ermm..to be frank bro, current Phenom not up to expectation. Lets give AMD some chance eh? Later if AMD dies we wont have this healthy competition. I was a Barton user before, so I hope the Phenom BE could impress me. QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 28 2008, 09:54 PM) DFI FTW -pWs- |
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the cooler on the board look sexy
550? then i have not to recomend any dfi board maybe can get with sb600 onli @-pWs- i know u DFI hardcore fan phenom can reach 3.3 expectation for 24/7, but with great code and hardware This post has been edited by xixo_12: Sep 28 2008, 10:01 PM |
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