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 Betta splendens Fighting Fish Club! v3, Beauty in Ferocity!

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post Oct 6 2011, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(edmund90 @ Oct 5 2011, 11:26 PM)
twice a day.. each time 3-5 pellet.. go buy black pellet.. rm5-6 /100g
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alrite..thanx fo the advice..now hopefully can get it to blow bubbles soon.. smile.gif
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post Oct 6 2011, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 6 2011, 09:38 AM)
alrite..thanx fo the advice..now hopefully can get it to blow bubbles soon.. smile.gif
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try put ketapang leaf or show the male a female.. then the male will make bubble nest faster..
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post Oct 6 2011, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(edmund90 @ Oct 6 2011, 09:57 AM)
try put ketapang leaf or show the male a female.. then the male will make bubble nest faster..
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alrite...so far have not really condition the pair yet..so far i only put both jar next to each other..tink will place both in the same container with the female inside a smaller glass..hopefuly this will stimulate more action from the male.. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 6 2011, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 4 2011, 07:28 PM)
new jar from com tank biggrin.gif
red hot young hm
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Wow nice young red hm nicotine rclxms.gif is tis from uncle wong line ?

QUOTE(JeFf_90 @ Oct 4 2011, 07:54 PM)
wangsa maju area dude
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wad kind of betta u looking for ? im from wangsa maju oso and i have a spawn of reds and blues HMPK ready to let go in a few more weeks biggrin.gif


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post Oct 6 2011, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(daigoro1990 @ Oct 6 2011, 05:09 PM)
Wow nice young red hm nicotine  rclxms.gif  is tis from uncle wong line ?
wad kind of betta u looking for ? im from wangsa maju oso and i have a spawn of reds and blues HMPK ready to let go in a few more weeks  biggrin.gif
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Hmmmm u r which part of wangsa maju?
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post Oct 6 2011, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(weirdo88 @ Oct 6 2011, 08:21 PM)
Hmmmm u r which part of wangsa maju?
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seksyen 5 wangsa maju, carefour there biggrin.gif

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alrite...so far have not really condition the pair yet..so far i only put both jar next to each other..tink will place both in the same container with the female inside a smaller glass..hopefuly this will stimulate more action from the male.. biggrin.gif

wad type of betta are the pairs? ur method corect liao , if see alot bubble d u can straight release. Wait 1-3 days and den use torchlight to see if theres any eggs biggrin.gif once got egg can remove the female
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post Oct 6 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(daigoro1990 @ Oct 6 2011, 05:09 PM)
Wow nice young red hm nicotine  rclxms.gif  is tis from uncle wong line ?
wad kind of betta u looking for ? im from wangsa maju oso and i have a spawn of reds and blues HMPK ready to let go in a few more weeks  biggrin.gif
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fui yoh... sifu come back LYN liao.. ^^
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post Oct 7 2011, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(daigoro1990 @ Oct 6 2011, 11:15 PM)

QUOTE("fastreader")
alrite...so far have not really condition the pair yet..so far i only put both jar next to each other..tink will place both in the same container with the female inside a smaller glass..hopefuly this will stimulate more action from the male.. biggrin.gif

wad type of betta are the pairs? ur method corect liao , if see alot bubble d u can straight release. Wait 1-3 days and den use torchlight to see if theres any eggs biggrin.gif once got egg can remove the female
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its veiltail type..for a beginner like me... tongue.gif alrite!!!!..looking forward to seeing bubbles soon from the male..and then baru let them go at it.. thanx for the advice yea!!!!
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post Oct 7 2011, 11:10 AM

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Betta pros/breeders, how do you know if a female is delta, veil tail or plakat? Is there any difference?
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post Oct 7 2011, 01:16 PM

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Sifus!! Sijie!!!

Pls help to advise newbie of the breeding/spawning tank setup~~

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Some question that i need help with:

Q1: Is the setup ok? Size comfortable enough for both fishes? Do I needa improve on anything else?

Q2: Do i needa put the stryform cup in there? Some sources says tat i can replace tat with water lettuce (Source:Claiming tat i can put water lettuce)? which is better?.. Stryform cup?

Q3: I will put the plastic plant in later when i release the female with the male. Is the timing correct?

Q4: Is there anything that I forget? anything that i needa add? Or I just needa sit back and wait for the male to release bubblesss? biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

Pls help to advise this newbie. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Oct 7 2011, 01:56 PM

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(daigoro1990 @ Oct 6 2011, 05:09 PM)
Wow nice young red hm nicotine  rclxms.gif  is tis from uncle wong line ?
wad kind of betta u looking for ? im from wangsa maju oso and i have a spawn of reds and blues HMPK ready to let go in a few more weeks



It's half unker wong line, I cross it with a rm 7 lfs super red skyhawk mutt sire . That's the only juvenile with 180 degree tail while the rest were either round tail, delta or fan tails lol breeding HM is not easy. But the satisfaction of seeing them growing is priceless la hhehehee tongue.gif

btw your red hmpk from unker wong oso ar ?
your blue betta is pure color or multi ? i'm looking for full mask royal blue or steel blue pairs.


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Betta pros/breeders, how do you know if a female is delta, veil tail or plakat? Is there any difference?


very good question,
vt and pk female looks pretty much the same. except delta/hm where they had longer anal fins. Other sifus please correct me if i'm wrong



QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 7 2011, 01:16 PM)
Sifus!! Sijie!!!

Pls help to advise newbie of the breeding/spawning tank setup~~


Q1: Is the setup ok? Size comfortable enough for both fishes? Do I needa improve on anything else?

Q2: Do i needa put the stryform cup in there? Some sources says tat i can replace tat with water lettuce (Source:Claiming tat i can put water lettuce)? which is better?.. Stryform cup?

Q3: I will put the plastic plant in later when i release the female with the male. Is the timing correct?

Q4: Is there anything that I forget? anything that i needa add? Or  I just needa sit back and wait for the male to release bubblesss? biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif

Pls help to advise this newbie. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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1) no general size, but best is 12 inch in diameter or bigger, info from various forum mentioned the bigger the better, as smaller sized spawning tank produce more female then male.

2) styrofoam cup act as a protective area for the betta to build nest. Without one, he'll get fatigue fast for repairing the fragile nest and tending the fry as during spawning period betta tend to goes into fasting mood, they wont whack anything. they can fast for about a week so just put one in.

3) nothing beat cheap real aquatic plant, get some rm 1 or rm 2 plant. It might produce algea or infusoria needed by young fry. Water lettuce foul the water, better have another jar or tank to culture infusoria with water lettuce.

4) some ketapang leaves and few drop of nika general aid or methylene blue to prevent fungus.

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post Oct 7 2011, 08:53 PM

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Q1- the setup look ok to me.
Q2- yes u need put a half-cut cup(dont forget to cut a square on top of the semi cup to easy u see got egg or not)
q3- setup everything b4 release the female. so put watever u wanted to put in the tank b4 release the female
q4- put a piece of ketapang leave(optional), take the female out 1st.. wait 1 day only put back like that(provided u had finished setup everything)


*what nicotine said was right too except for smaller tank get more female and i usually dont put any medicine(u need med only when u sick only) but lil bit of aquarium salt.


But i guess a pic explain everything so let me share my spawning tank setup ba
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post Oct 7 2011, 10:39 PM

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Thank you thank you thank you!!! thank you for all ur wonderful tips...and yeap..will try to scout for some ketapang leave and live plant..and also cut a hole on the stryform cup so tat i can see whether got egg onot!!...

Wow!!! wonderful tips there by the sifus!!! thank a alot for all that!! appreciate it tonnes!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Oct 8 2011, 09:01 PM

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Q1: Is the setup ok? Size comfortable enough for both fishes? Do I needa improve on anything else?
a: ok put black water and some water plant...

Q2: Do i needa put the stryform cup in there? Some sources says tat i can replace tat with water lettuce (Source:Claiming tat i can put water lettuce)? which is better?.. Stryform cup?
a: stryform cup better

Q3: I will put the plastic plant in later when i release the female with the male. Is the timing correct?
a: both can for me better put early

Q4: Is there anything that I forget? anything that i needa add? Or I just needa sit back and wait for the male to release bubblesss?
a: put some buble filter good for baby when hatch..clear water
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post Oct 8 2011, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(byakuya8283 @ Oct 8 2011, 09:01 PM)
Q1: Is the setup ok? Size comfortable enough for both fishes? Do I needa improve on anything else?
a: ok put black water and some water plant...

Q2: Do i needa put the stryform cup in there? Some sources says tat i can replace tat with water lettuce (Source:Claiming tat i can put water lettuce)? which is better?.. Stryform cup?
a: stryform cup better

Q3: I will put the plastic plant in later when i release the female with the male. Is the timing correct?
a: both can for me better put early

Q4: Is there anything that I forget? anything that i needa add? Or I just needa sit back and wait for the male to release bubblesss?   
a: put some buble filter good for baby when hatch..clear water
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alrite!!! noted..live plant it will be,..thanx yea.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Oct 10 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 7 2011, 01:56 PM)
It's half unker wong line, I cross it with a rm 7 lfs super red skyhawk mutt sire . That's the only juvenile with 180 degree tail while the rest were either round tail, delta or fan tails lol breeding HM is not easy. But the satisfaction of seeing them growing is priceless la hhehehee tongue.gif

btw your red hmpk from unker wong oso ar ?
your blue betta is pure color or multi ? i'm looking for full mask royal blue or steel blue pairs.

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icic , din noe outcross to rm7 can produce tis kind of nice fish hahaha.. anyway good job thumbup.gif can keep tis fella to do a f2 with a nice female hehe

my reds from uncle wong gg long time adi haha.. now they are stocks from another breeder tat stays in klang haha. will post some pics here soon
my blues are pure solid colors with thick masking; about 20 steel blue male and 6 royal blue male, some d masking even start to cover the eye d lol. Let me know if u r interested, im letting them go at pairs for a cheap price coz wanna clear space for my upcoming spawns smile.gif

QUOTE(edmund90 @ Oct 6 2011, 11:39 PM)
fui yoh... sifu come back LYN liao.. ^^
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aiya whr got sifu , i still newbie ma alot more to learn hahhah rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 7 2011, 01:16 PM)
Sifus!! Sijie!!!

Q1: Is the setup ok? Size comfortable enough for both fishes? Do I needa improve on anything else?

Q2: Do i needa put the stryform cup in there? Some sources says tat i can replace tat with water lettuce (Source:Claiming tat i can put water lettuce)? which is better?.. Stryform cup?

Q3: I will put the plastic plant in later when i release the female with the male. Is the timing correct?

Q4: Is there anything that I forget? anything that i needa add? Or  I just needa sit back and wait for the male to release bubblesss? biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif

Pls help to advise this newbie. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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sorry late reply, hope they spawned already lol anyway to answer ur questions

Q1: yup looks fine, but remember to add some plants or hiding place for the female.. also some rm1.50 plants for the production of infusoria for fries.. or u can manually feed them with egg yolk till day 3 and start with mw or bbs

Q2: for me i prefer styro cups with holes cup at the top ( similair to edmund's setup) , coz the cup u can stick it at one end so tat it doesnt move about. water lettuce oso fine actually just tat they can move around when wind blow

Q3: better use live 1 haha, shud b fine as long as the female has a place to hide in

Q4: salt (prevent velvet), ketapang extract/black water extract (reduce stress for the dad and fries)

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post Oct 10 2011, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(daigoro1990 @ Oct 10 2011, 11:56 AM)
sorry late reply, hope they spawned already lol anyway to answer ur questions

Q1: yup looks fine, but remember to add some plants or hiding place for the female.. also some rm1.50 plants for the production of infusoria for fries.. or u can manually feed them with egg yolk till day 3 and start with mw or bbs

Q2: for me i prefer styro cups with holes cup at the top ( similair to edmund's setup) , coz the cup u can stick it at one end so tat it doesnt move about. water lettuce oso fine actually just tat they can move around when wind blow

Q3: better use live 1 haha, shud b fine as long as the female has a place to hide in

Q4: salt (prevent velvet), ketapang extract/black water extract (reduce stress for the dad and fries)
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oic..thanx sifus for the advice!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif notworthy.gif

so far, the male has not blow any bubblenest yet..kinda fed up with it dy.. tongue.gif or maybe i';m just too impatient..i tink i will just feed them well and then try again later...
so far since getting both from the lfs, i haven't really fed them with any live food..just some fish pellet which they seem to spit out more often than swallowing it.. cry.gif

will try again in a week time..if still nothing then i guess the pair gotten is an old pair.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 7 2011, 01:16 PM)
Sifus!! Sijie!!!

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The mineral bottle pattern will cause distortion, try using a smooth surface container. An adult happy and healthy betta will make bubblenest. The water condition, environment, care and feed will also effect the quality of the fry
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post Oct 13 2011, 10:04 AM

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How to START and Where to START??
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post Oct 15 2011, 01:38 PM

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Need some advice. My betta's fin has some tears after flaring yesterday. It didn't show any rotting before this. Will it repair itself or do I have to add some fin rot med?

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