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post Sep 27 2008, 10:08 AM

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hrm...my bijou is more than 100hrs liaw..still bass is somewhere cover the bright..any matter using burn in software to eliminate the mmm sound? Burn in indeed improve a lot, but still i quite not satisfy with the bass..if u cover the IEM hole, the sound gone but, it will become normal IEM..@@@ Wonder, when bijou 2 review come? and bijou 4 come in?
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post Sep 29 2008, 10:37 PM

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just received my bijou3 (gunmetal) and tried it. comparing it to my Sony walkman earphone wif few mp3 songs wif vocal and bass as well.

the following is a review from a non-audiophile person. Note that i tested it straight out from the box. no burn-in yet and i dun think i'm good in explaining audiophile item so bear wif me as well. tongue.gif

- the sound is clearer or a bit louder (i guess should be clearer coz if i turn the sounds louder for the sony earphone, i dun get the same effect). sounds like nearer as well. cool.gif
- the bass is definitely better imo. more umph. much to my preference actually. tried it "biller piper - because we want to" and the bass totally beats sony earphone. i love it. thumbup.gif
- downside is there is noticable white noise when i stop the music. compare to the sony earphone, there is no noticable white noise at all. mellow.gif


Added on September 29, 2008, 10:41 pmburning process begins now biggrin.gif

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post Sep 30 2008, 01:06 AM

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After using it since Friday.. And a burn in between 20-50 hrs.. Didn't keep track. I can tell you that I'm kinda disapointed with Bijou 3. I'll tell you my review of the Bijou. I'm skeptical that 100 hrs of burn in would do justice and give me better sound because lots of people is saying quite good even before burn in showing that their expectations of this is different in the first place. But for me I'm comparing this with my KSC75 and my friend's Mylar X3

1. Good build. The metal is a good plus compared to previous Mylar which uses plastic and cracks. Black wire means it won't get dirty. Which is also good. But that's the only good point of the Bijou 3. =/

2. Very powerful bass. It adds flavour to the songs and I think this is what it means by making the signature very dark? I'm not to sure how to explain but even the vocals sounds lower as well. And since the bass is very overpowering, other sounds during the song is covered and can't be enjoyed as much. And this is Bijou 3... I'm wondering will Bijou 1 be a subwoofer earphones =D

3. This is the final comment about the Bijou 3. The sounds... Everything from low.. mid.. to high.. is not clear. I don't mind the lows not having clear sound. It's more of the "DUUMMMM DUMMMM DUMMMMMM" kind instead of the "dup dup dup" tight and clear bass in Mylar X3 which means can feng tau but then... this doesn't even sound good with bassy songs.. =/ Vocals are produced quite nicely though after some burn-in. But the instruments aren't produced well (comparing to the Mylar X3). For example.. Guitar strumming in some songs which could be heard in Mylar X3 is meshed together into 1 lump in Bijou 3. Some songs with higher frequency vocals too can be painful somehow.

Long story short.. Although I haven't hit the 100 hrs burn in mark which everyone suggests... I would trade this anyday with a Mylar X3 which has a brighter signature like everyone said and sounds much much clearer. Mylar X3 has that extra ummph that upgrades any song and brings it to the next enjoyment level even directly outside the box without any burn in. But Bijou 3 so far just feels like another KSC75 to me with a average-low clarity and overpowered bass. However KSC75 works with every song I tried on but not with Bijou 3. Since it's the RM170 earphones that I bought I'm going to live with it =) I'm just hoping that the 100 hours burn-in will give me justice for this 170 earpiece I've high expectations for. Most likely if I have the cash... The next one I'll be aiming for is IM716 (Or a Mylar X3 ^^)

P.S. I've done all the testing on my Zen Micro Photo and my friend's Cowon D2 just to inform. I'll update you guys after 1 month of usage as that would definitely hit the 100 hrs burn-in mark everyone been raving about.

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post Oct 1 2008, 12:17 AM

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after 24 hours of burn-in, for a non-audiophile person like me, i dun really felt any noticable differences....

still after comparing wif my cheaper panasonic earphone (cost ard RM40~) and the sony earphone that bundled along wif my sony walkman NWZ-A726, i can only say this still:
- the sound is nearer or clearer or louder (not sure which) but definitely it's more centered in my head.
- the bass is more powerful and to my liking.
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post Oct 1 2008, 02:01 PM

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so suprises that so many of you complaining bijou 3 dont have a decent sound.

as per request, i will post up a full review within this 2 days.
and i will put some of the IEM in comparison.


but personally i found it sound great when you are proper sources and amp it. i do not try direct ipod, but currently i use gmod VDH to The secret, the sound is pretty much good. and i shall say improved from previous version.


allright, i will do a details analysing somewhere later.


Added on October 1, 2008, 2:05 pm
QUOTE(m4a1rifle @ Sep 26 2008, 03:32 PM)
I burn in for more than 100 hours, how long does it require?
120hours now, while overall improve a lil bit more, but still the staging is not good. some instrument sound will another background instrument sound and singer voice is somehow feel like the singer is singing behind a veil but the music instrument is playing in front of the veil, not stand out enough. Is it the expected sound signature?

I'm a previous user of sennheiser PMX-60, could i be expecting too much? but i think if PMX-60 is selling now, it could be a lil bit cheaper than bijou.
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allright, as for ur case, the signatures sound like that, it have darker sound signatures, where it give more hifi feelings as for darker presentation, it is smooth, very smooth, alot more smoother than previous model.


guess that i shall have done a big review, maybe i shall put all the headphone in places. and test it up.


This post has been edited by yuheng: Oct 1 2008, 02:05 PM
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Yo! Been using bijou for two weeks already. Here's my mini review:

At first, it sounded realli realli realli bassy, so i leave it for burning in (using wavefiles consist of frequency sweep, noises, etc at low volume from my mp3 player). After 100 hours (i realised that my sony mp3 player battery life is loooong; oni nid to recharge it once tongue.gif ), improvment is obvious, but it shows lots of dark signatures as claimed.

For songs with strong bass (e.g. drop it like its' hot - snoop dogg) esp techno music, it is an advantage (for bass lovers, bijou is for ya). But for classical, pop, new age, etc, its realli bad. All the treble and mid-range are muffled by the bass.

So i went thru a torture of "don't-play-music-with-emphasis-on-high-frequency" days (you get wat me meant, me hope). That is until i played around with the equalizer.

i hooked up the high frequency bar (6.3khz and beyond) in my mp3 player, and my music realli realli realli ROX!!! Any music: pop, rock, techno, new age, classical, trance, hip hop, etc. All of them sounded realli nice! So i figured that the earphone's inducer (or izzit speaker?) is actually good, but not used in its' optimum level. After hooking up the level of high pitch, the sound produced is fine no matter which frequency, clear and no distortion whatsoever. The high pitch and midrange can be produced without trembling; every word and instrument can be heard.The bass is still strong; no loss in bass, and the bass now is "Dum!Dum!Dum!" rather than "whoomm!whooomm!whoom!".

Conclusion: if you love bass, go for it. If you love anything other than bass, buy it (or test it) and adjust the equalizer. There should be oni ONE particular adjustment of equaliser that will suit your taste, whatever the music is. Right now, i loooovveee my bijou! Good build (metal built), range of earbud's size, great casing for keeping earphone (btw, the hippocamus thing feels painful for the bijou), and worth the money too.

Now listening to Herbie Hancock's Jungle Line. biggrin.gif


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post Oct 1 2008, 11:27 PM

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hi siowcharbor, i think u the one that recommended me this earphone and also thought me how to increase the bass for the same sony walkman that me and u are having...

yes...i agreed the need to adjust the equalizer. aren't we suppose to do that for different type of songs??? blink.gif
or we expect one equalizer mode to suits all types of song? sweat.gif

a bit ot here - what does signature means? what is dark what is bright??? tongue.gif


Added on October 1, 2008, 11:38 pmand siowcharbor, good recommendation - coz i do like bass! waahhhaha

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post Oct 2 2008, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(karwaidotnet @ Oct 1 2008, 11:27 PM)
hi siowcharbor, i think u the one that recommended me this earphone and also thought me how to increase the bass for the same sony walkman that me and u are having...

yes...i agreed the need to adjust the equalizer. aren't we suppose to do that for different type of songs???  blink.gif
or we expect one equalizer mode to suits all types of song?  sweat.gif

a bit ot here - what does signature means? what is dark what is bright???  tongue.gif


Added on October 1, 2008, 11:38 pmand siowcharbor, good recommendation - coz i do like bass! waahhhaha
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wahahah~! lol... for me, one equalizer suits for all songs in my mp3 player (jazz, pop, hip hop, techno, new age). But for some ppl, dey adjust equaliser for diff songs, which i cant realli imagine [everytime change song mahfun] tongue.gif . Since i don't adjust the equaliser at all (i alwiz put settings "none" for equaliser), now i using equaliser to counter the weakness of the earphone. biggrin.gif

dark signature juz mean bassy type of trademark... erm... in other words, if an earphone were to show dark signature, it means the earphone present more bassy feature (why am i beating around the bush??). bright signature means more towards clarity of high frequency.

*since last time u asked how to increase bass in a-726, now with bijou, no nid to increase edi laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Hey, I listen to Rock Music. Ive been looking at the Mylar Bijou 3 but after these reviews, im not sure. In your opinions, whats better? The Bijou 3's or X3i's?


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QUOTE(-Nintedo Wii- @ Oct 3 2008, 03:58 AM)
Hey, I listen to Rock Music. Ive been looking at the Mylar Bijou 3 but after these reviews, im not sure. In your opinions, whats better? The Bijou 3's or X3i's?
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X3i can produce very clear vocal but its bass just ngam ngam only.so i dont think it suits rock music.
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This is my comparison for bijou 3 vs d-jays.

allrite, just to give a short introduction, bijou3 having darker signatures . D-jays delivering a brighter signatures. Therefore, you can clearly seen that i m comparing different signatures, and sound, rather than pure sound differents with the identical signatures, I m expressing my personal opinion here. It will be based on jazz,pop,soft rock of listening. here's the sources that i m using.

Gmod>VDH hybrid>The Secret AMP>Djays, bijou3

I decided not to using the proper review method as it might be just comparing sound signatures and my preferences on which, rather than reflecting an accurate comparison. As a result, i will do more description on each rather than listed out the differences via songs by songs. and therefore, i m gonna to compare IEM by IEM.

Before i comments on this, i do have to highlight that signatures played a important rule here, i hv tried my best to describe on sound rather than complaining on signatures differences. Let start's from D-jays, djays having very forwards singatures, with the brighter sound, the vocals is rather focused, the seperation is clear and air. very details sound, but pls do not mess the details and forwards, i almost pengsang when i met with a friends that keep telling me more details on a certain cable where it deliver forward sound. The overal performances was top on this comparison. Personal preferences placed important here as the bright singatures was similar to Etymotic signatures, less fuller frequency, bass isnt as strong, if u r bass-head, you can stop on this as it only give accurate bass, no overbass at all. It give everything but more towards mids to highs. djays give better bass quantity when compared to Ety, the impact presented identically, but djays having greater transparent sound. With the prices, it is worth, alot more worth than what was competed in this prices ranges(RM300-400). if you are jazz listener, this is a good choices for the upgrading from crossroad, The details was rich, with colourful sound as Ety, it is just like a dad on x3i, being improved in every aspect. very fun listening as you can pick alot of new details out that you never noticed. with proper amping, the high was very impressive, you wil be shock that how far it can go, it is really far, really high.

Before i comments on this, i do have to highlight that signatures played a important rule here, i hv tried my best to describe on sound rather than complaining on signatures differences. Bijou 3 was deemed as de-improved when compared to previous x3i, BUT i dont really think so, as for my current setups, bijou do delivered less focusing vocals, but more balanced now, people complained that it don't have the clear vocals, i have to agree with this when you are comparing this only with x3i, x3i was top on vocals, but bijou3 have definitely better vocal compared to xbi. However, with putting in other aspect, i do really confirmed that it was improved, the sound separation was better, and the bass impact was wonderful for my current setup, soundstages was wider and guess what, it is a lot more smoother, the smoother was impressive, very impressive, if you ever try HD650, you will know how smooth a cans can go, and yes, bijou was smoother now when compared to x3i, it make everything not as focused, it make you enjoys, rahter than pickings on everything, it make me forgot to compare but enjoys on the music, this was the major parts on improvement, this is a give and takes on entry level grades. the details is there, but just less layering, and some details was soften and unabled to delivered well in poorer sources. all 5 frequency was balanced this times, better instrument impact compared to x3i, with fuller mid-low frequency, you can get more accurate and real instrument. and yet, i wont think that instrument was mixed, it is separated, very separated, a very suprised separation after amped. I hv compared the separation by pop songs(cao ge-superman album), purposely using lower recording quality(compared to audiophiles recording), but yet, it was well presented, a lot of suprises coming in. Positioned was still on par with x3i as same layback singatures.

Please do not hesitate to reply me with any comments on the comparison, and if you have any confusion, feel free to reply here as it will be more transparent biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by yuheng: Oct 13 2008, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(yuheng @ Oct 4 2008, 12:59 AM)
This is my comparison for bijou 3 vs d-jays.

allrite, just to give a short introduction, both bijou 3 has darker signatures . D-jays delivering a brighter signatures. Therefore, you can clearly seen that i m comparing different signatures, and sound, rather than pure sound differents with the identical signatures, I m expressing my personal opinion here. It will be based on jazz,pop,soft rock of listening. here's the sources that i m using.

Gmod>VDH hybrid>The Secret AMP>Djays, bijou3

I decided not to using the proper review method as it might be just comparing sound signatures and my preferences on which, rather than reflecting an accurate comparison. As a result, i will do more description on each rather than listed out the differents songs by songs. and therefore, i m gonna to compare IEM by IEM.

Before i comments on this, i do have to highlights that signatures played a important rule here, i hv tried my best to describe on sound rather than complaining on signatures differences. Let start's from D-jays, djays having very forwards singatures, with the brighter sound, the vocals is rather focus, the seperation is clear and air. very details sound, but pls do not mess the details and forwards, i almost pengsang when i met with a friends that keep telling me more details on a certain cable where it deliver forward sound. The overal performances was top in 3 IEM. Personal preferences placed important here as the bright singatures was similar to Etymotic signatures, less fuller frequency, bass isnt as strong, if u r bass-head, you can stop on this as it only give accurate bass, but overbass at all. It give everything but more towards mids to high. djays give better bass quantity when compared to Ety, the impact was almost the same, but djays have more airly sound. With the prices, it is worth, alot more worth than what was competed in this prices ranges. if you are jazz listener, this is a good choices for the upgrading from crossroad, The details was rich, with colourful sound as Ety, it is just like a dad on x3i, being improved in every aspect. very fun listening as you can pick alot of new details out that you never noticed. with proper amping, the high was very impressive, you wil be shock that how far it can go, it is really far, really high.

Before i comments on this, i do have to highlights that signatures played a important rule here, i hv tried my best to describe on sound rather than complaining on signatures differences. Bijou 3 was deemed as de-improved when compared to previous x3i, BUT i dont really think so, as for my current setups, bijou do delivered less focusing vocals, but more balanced now, people complained that it don't have the clear vocals, i have to agree with this when you are comparing this only with x3i, x3i was top on vocals, but bijou3 have definitely better vocal compared to xbi. However, with putting in other aspect, i do really confirmed that it was improved, the sound separation was better, and the bass impact was wonderful for my current setup, soundstages was wider and guess what, it is a lot more smoother, the smoother was impressive, very impressive, if you ever try HD650, you will know how smooth a cans can go, and yes, bijou was smoother now when compared to x3i, it make everything not as focused, it make you enjoys, rahter than pickings on everything, it make me forgot to compare but enjoys on the music, this was the major parts on improvement, this is a give and takes on entry level grades. the details is there, but just less layering, and some details was soften and unabled to delivered well in poorer sources. all 5 frequency was balanced this times, better instrument impact compared to x3i, with fuller mid-low frequency, you can get more accurate and real details. and yet, i wont think that instrument was mixed, it is separated, very separated, a very suprised separation after amped. I hv compared the separation by pop songs(cao ge-superman album), purposely using lower recording quality(compared to audiophiles recording), but yet, it was well presented, a lot of suprises coming in. Positioned was still on par with x3i as same layback singatures.

Please do not hesitate to reply me with any comments on the comparison, and if you have any confusion, feel free to reply here as it will be more transparent biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(siowcharbor @ Oct 2 2008, 10:58 AM)
wahahah~! lol... for me, one equalizer suits for all songs in my mp3 player (jazz, pop, hip hop, techno, new age). But for some ppl, dey adjust equaliser for diff songs, which i cant realli imagine [everytime change song mahfun] tongue.gif . Since i don't adjust the equaliser at all (i alwiz put settings "none" for equaliser), now i using equaliser to counter the weakness of the earphone.  biggrin.gif

dark signature juz mean bassy type of trademark... erm... in other words, if an earphone were to show dark signature, it means the earphone present more bassy feature (why am i beating around the bush??). bright signature means more towards clarity of high frequency.

*since last time u asked how to increase bass in a-726, now with bijou, no nid to increase edi   laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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erm, darker singatures doesnt actually equal to greater bass, but greater bass do make it shine. biggrin.gif


Added on October 4, 2008, 1:12 am
QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Sep 27 2008, 10:08 AM)
hrm...my bijou is more than 100hrs liaw..still bass is somewhere cover the bright..any matter using burn in software to eliminate the mmm sound? Burn in indeed improve a lot, but still i quite not satisfy with the bass..if u cover the IEM hole, the sound gone but, it will become normal IEM..@@@ Wonder, when bijou 2 review come? and bijou 4 come in?
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pls try over the double flanges or the smallest sleeve


Added on October 4, 2008, 1:15 am
QUOTE(siowcharbor @ Oct 1 2008, 09:01 PM)
Yo! Been using bijou for two weeks already. Here's my mini review:

At first, it sounded realli realli realli bassy, so i leave it for burning in (using wavefiles consist of frequency sweep, noises, etc at low volume from my mp3 player). After 100 hours (i realised that my sony mp3 player battery life is loooong; oni nid to recharge it once  tongue.gif ), improvment is obvious, but it shows lots of dark signatures as claimed.

For songs with strong bass (e.g. drop it like its' hot - snoop dogg) esp techno music, it is an advantage (for bass lovers, bijou is for ya). But for classical, pop, new age, etc, its realli bad. All the treble and mid-range are muffled by the bass.

So i went thru a torture of "don't-play-music-with-emphasis-on-high-frequency" days (you get wat me meant, me hope). That is until i played around with the equalizer.

i hooked up the high frequency bar (6.3khz and beyond) in my mp3 player, and my music realli realli realli ROX!!! Any music: pop, rock, techno, new age, classical, trance, hip hop, etc. All of them sounded realli nice! So i figured that the earphone's inducer (or izzit speaker?) is actually good, but not used in its' optimum level. After hooking up the level of high pitch, the sound produced is fine no matter which frequency, clear and no distortion whatsoever. The high pitch and midrange can be produced without trembling; every word and instrument can be heard.The bass is still strong; no loss in bass, and the bass now is "Dum!Dum!Dum!" rather than "whoomm!whooomm!whoom!".

Conclusion: if you love bass, go for it. If you love anything other than bass, buy it (or test it) and adjust the equalizer. There should be oni ONE particular adjustment of equaliser that will suit your taste, whatever the music is. Right now, i loooovveee my bijou! Good build (metal built), range of earbud's size, great casing for keeping earphone (btw, the hippocamus thing feels painful for the bijou), and worth the money too.

Now listening to Herbie Hancock's Jungle Line.  biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the review biggrin.gif notworthy.gif


Added on October 4, 2008, 1:16 am
QUOTE(LaiN87 @ Sep 30 2008, 01:06 AM)
After using it since Friday.. And a burn in between 20-50 hrs.. Didn't keep track. I can tell you that I'm kinda disapointed with Bijou 3. I'll tell you my review of the Bijou. I'm skeptical that 100 hrs of burn in would do justice and give me better sound because lots of people is saying quite good even before burn in showing that their expectations of this is different in the first place. But for me I'm comparing this with my KSC75 and my friend's Mylar X3

1. Good build. The metal is a good plus compared to previous Mylar which uses plastic and cracks. Black wire means it won't get dirty. Which is also good. But that's the only good point of the Bijou 3. =/

2. Very powerful bass. It adds flavour to the songs and I think this is what it means by making the signature very dark? I'm not to sure how to explain but even the vocals sounds lower as well. And since the bass is very overpowering, other sounds during the song is covered and can't be enjoyed as much. And this is Bijou 3... I'm wondering will Bijou 1 be a subwoofer earphones =D

3. This is the final comment about the Bijou 3. The sounds... Everything from low.. mid.. to high.. is not clear. I don't mind the lows not having clear sound. It's more of the "DUUMMMM DUMMMM DUMMMMMM" kind instead of the "dup dup dup" tight and clear bass in Mylar X3 which means can feng tau but then... this doesn't even sound good with bassy songs.. =/ Vocals are produced quite nicely though after some burn-in. But the instruments aren't produced well (comparing to the Mylar X3). For example.. Guitar strumming in some songs which could be heard in Mylar X3 is meshed together into 1 lump in Bijou 3. Some songs with higher frequency vocals too can be painful somehow.

Long story short.. Although I haven't hit the 100 hrs burn in mark which everyone suggests... I would trade this anyday with a Mylar X3 which has a brighter signature like everyone said and sounds much much clearer. Mylar X3 has that extra ummph that upgrades any song and brings it to the next enjoyment level even directly outside the box without any burn in. But Bijou 3 so far just feels like another KSC75 to me with a average-low clarity and overpowered bass. However KSC75 works with every song I tried on but not with Bijou 3. Since it's the RM170 earphones that I bought I'm going to live with it =) I'm just hoping that the 100 hours burn-in will give me justice for this 170 earpiece I've high expectations for. Most likely if I have the cash... The next one I'll be aiming for is IM716 (Or a Mylar X3 ^^)

P.S. I've done all the testing on my Zen Micro Photo and my friend's Cowon D2 just to inform. I'll update you guys after 1 month of usage as that would definitely hit the 100 hrs burn-in mark everyone been raving about.
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waiting for your reviews then, hope that you will like it soon


This post has been edited by yuheng: Oct 4 2008, 01:16 AM
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What do you guys use to burn the bijous?
Burn WAVs? or regular songs?
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yuheng,

oopsie... misunderstanding of the term signature. forgive me =D


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can use your regular songs in your playlist. As long as you play songs at low volume (dun la go explode ur earphone), burning in will occur. BUT if you are doubtful, you can go download burn-in waves files. i tink at www.burninwave.com got good samples.
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What do you guys use to burn the bijous?
Burn WAVs? or regular songs?
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just use regular songs.
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yuheng is saying what I wanted to say.
Bijou is an improvement from the previous mylars, to appreciate music we have to look at the whole picture, not just crystal clear vocal = good. This Bijou has already reached another level, good to have it.
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yuheng,

since you brought in this new model Bijou, will you plan any price change/cut for the X3i and XBi?
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QUOTE(Dry Pillow @ Oct 7 2008, 07:19 AM)
yuheng,

since you brought in this new model Bijou, will you plan any price change/cut for the X3i and XBi?
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haha,waiting for that too.

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