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post Aug 22 2008, 09:12 AM, updated 18y ago

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Old Thread Chubby Hamsters V9

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WELCOME to the new thread, Chubby Hamsters V10!
A hamster is a rodent belonging to the subfamily Cricetinae. There are 5 types of hamsters, mainly the Syrian, Winter white dwarf, Russian campbell dwarf, Chinese hamsters and Roborovski hamsters.

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SPECIES:

Syrians (Mesocricetus auratus)
They are the best known species in the pet industry. Syrians are also known as Golden Hamsters because the first domestic hamster was a wild agouti colour, which is called Golden. They have also been called Teddy Bears because does have the fuzziness and roundness of a teddy bear. Syrians are known as fancy hamsters of all the hamster species since they come in many colour varieties and also coat varieties... some can have long fur and some short fur, which we normally call Long Hairs and Short Hairs... also there are fur types like Rex and Satin.

The most important rule about Syrians is that they are SOLITARY... never house 2 together. If breeding, there is a way where you must put the female into the male's cage only when the female is on heat. It is very risky and dangerous to house 2 syrians together at any time since they are very well known to fight till death. So if you treasure the life of your hamster, never put 2 syrians together.

Syrians are large and comfortable to hold. They make suitable hamsters for the beginner keeper. Syrians that are handled properly would rarely or never bite, and can be tame to respond well to touch and voice.

Campbell's Hamster (Phodopus campbelli)
Campbells are probably the most popular of all dwarf hamsters since they come in many colour varieties that makes them attractive. The look similar to Winter White hamsters but they are actually different subspecies. So never mixbreed them.

Campbells are dwarfs... well, small hamsters. Please do not be fooled by petshops telling you they are mini hamsters and giving you a weird price and denying that they are Campbells. Anyway, they come in different colour and patterns but to breed, one must understand that hamsters that have any white spots or markings must never be bred together coz it can produce eyeless or teethless hamsters that die later... so if you were to breed, please read up.

These dwarfs may not be suitable for young children due to some dwarfs are bitey... and because of their small size, it would be harder for children to handle. Campbells are not aggressive biters, it is just that sometimes they will bite when you make them angry or startle them from their sleep.

Campbells are good in a pair or a small colony but always make sure your cage or tank has the space and enough hides and wheels to house a colony. These social hamsters are territorial and would fight off intruders that do not belong to their colony. Campbells are ok when they are introduced at a young age but letting an older hamster be kept with a younger one, most likely a fight would start.

Winter White Hamster (Phodopus sungorus)
WW are hamsters that can change their coat colour when we minimise their daylight. Their coats will change from their normal colours to a white coat but with their dorsal stripe and side arches visible. WW come in 3 colours, which are Agouti, Sapphire and Pearl. The Pearl do not change their coat colour at all, they remain in their white coat colour for life.

WW are different from Campbells, their eyes are bigger, fur is thicker, body is more bullet shape and their ears are less conspicious. It is easy to see the difference if a Campbell and WW were side by side.

WWs are nicer to handle for they have better temperments than Campbells. WW rarely change into their winter coats in captivity, so do not force your hamster to starve and stay in a cold room... this depends on the hamster whether it wants to change or not.

WW are almost similar with Campbells when it comes to pairs and colonies. Always remember, it doesn't necessary mean we should keep them in breeding pairs or male and female colonies. A single sex group is good enough for dwarf hamsters.

WW are known to fight among themselves out of the blue. Many do not understand that WW are territorial dwarfs, they can tolerate siblings or with other WW when introduced at a young age but there would always be a day where they would start fighting. Have spare cages at hand to separate fighting hamsters if you have a pair or a small colony. The best is keeping one. Do not worry, hamsters do not die from loneliness.

Roborovski Hamster (Phodopus roborovskii)
Robos are the smallest species of hamster. Adult Robos are only 2 inches in lenght. Unlike the other dwarfs, Robos do not have a dorsal stripe and they have slightly longer legs. Easy to identify from the size and also its sandy colour and white belly.

Yes, the smallest and also the fastest, this species is very well known for being very fast and active. So they are not very handle friendly since they are likely to jump or run off your palm. Many are really attracted by the facial markings, they appear to have "eyebrows".

Robos enjoy sand baths and a wheel. Due to their small size, one would need to purchase a glass/plastic tank to house them or purchase cages with small bars like the Habitrail Mini...

Robos do very well in little groups. They are the most sociable of all dwarf species and it is very entertaining to watch a small group of robos playing and eating in a tank.

Robos are not a hamster that is suitable for the beginner keeper as it could either be frustrating to have hamsters that run very fast or just unable to handle properly.

Chinese Hamster (Cricetulus griseus)
The Chinese hamster is known for their mousy looks. Yes, they were discovered in China long ago. Many people would say Chinese hamsters are hard to breed in captivity and are difficult to raise. Fighting problems occur so it is best to house them seperately. The Chinese hamster is also referred to as a "mouse-like" hamster because of its short nose, thin body, stocky legs and longer tail.

They do make great pets if they are bred by a proper breeder and have been handled often when young.

This species of hamster in Malaysia is very rare. The last known shop to have sold them were Pets Wonderland at Mid Valley years ago.

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VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

- Most hamsters do very well alone. Roborovski hamsters can be kept in small groups and best if single sexed but Syrians, Campbells, Winter Whites and Chinese hamsters are best kept on their own. They are always happier that way.

- Never breed hamsters if you do not have the space. Hamsters can reproduce every 20 days or so.

- Hamster fights are never fun to watch.

- Always remember to have food and water available. Never give too much fresh foods as it can give diarrhea to some hamsters, especially pet shop hamsters that have never eaten any veggie before.

- The bigger the cage or tank, the more comfortable for the hamster.

- Syrians need wheels that are about 8 inches in diameter. Wodent Wheels, Sanko Wheels or Silent Spinners have 8 inch wheels.

- NEVER keep different species in 1 cage or tank together... BIG big trouble there, may have some injuries, deaths... and possibility of mixbreeding Campbells with WW... bad idea.

- Hamsters do not have human emotion, they do not feel Love or have emotional feelings like humans. So there really is no reason to breed or keep them in a male and female pair unless you have a purpose as a true hamster breeder.

- Hamsters should have a small portion of fresh food everyday. Limit to a teaspoon a day for a Syrian, half a teaspoon of fresh food to dwarfs. Give more leafy veggies.

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Diet


Hamsters should have a good quality staple diet that is available for them throughout the day. Grains are important for hamsters to gain protein, minerals and vitamins as well as the good fat that the body needs to stay healthy. The carbohydrates and natural sugars from grains helps in maintaining your hamster's energy and alertness throughout the day. Wrong or unhealthy diets could cause hamsters to gain weight, show no interest in using it's running wheel and does little throughout the day. Here is a guide on how to feed your hamster healthily.

Try not to go for cheap foods that you see available in the market. Habitrail, Delikate, LM Farms.... all these have little nutritional value because they are loaded with sunflower seeds and dried corn. High in fat and phosphorus. Delikate and Habitrail staple food includes alot of alfalfa pellets (the greenish brown pieces) which hamsters do not like to eat at all and you may end up throwing it away. Choose high quality brands like:

Harry Hamster - it has quite alot of coloured pellets but quite nutritious and my hamsters eat everything.
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Prestige Hamster Nature - Loaded with top quality grains, pellets and dried fruits and herbs. Superb and nutritious for every hamster.
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Vitakraft Hamster Menu - Well rounded hamster diet, it has some dried veggies like carrots and peas. Better than Habitrail Staple diet.
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Kaytee Forti Diet Hamster - the ingredient list on grains and protein level is ok but one thing worrying is the preservative called Ethoxyquin, which is not good. Do not use this food in long term.
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I will update with more brands later.

Fresh food

Hamsters need a small amount of fresh fruits and veggies daily. Never give more than a teaspoon of fresh food to a hamster in a day as sometimes it can cause diarrhea. Dwarf hamsters, expecially Campbells should not be given too much fruits as Campbells are prone to get diabetes from sugary fruits.

Fruits: (Make sure all the seeds that are not edible are removed, grape seeds too)
Apple, Blueberries, Cherries, Cranberries, Dragon Fruit, Grapes, Honey Dew, Kiwi, Mango, Papaya, Peach, Pear, Plum, Rambutan, Star Fruit, Sun Melon, Strawberries, Watermelon.

Try not to offer too much sourish fruits like kiwi or strawberries, the high acid content can cause diarrhea if taken too much.

Veggies:
Alfalfa Sprouts, Asparagus, Broccoli, Bak Choy, Bean Sprouts, Capsicum(Bell Pepper), Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Corn, Coriander, Frozen peas, French Bean, Kangkong, Long Bean, Lady Fingers, Mustard Green(Sawi/Choy sum), Parsley, Peas, Pumpkin, Spinach, Water Chestnut, Water Cress.

Cabbage and cucumber can be offered but in very very small amounts.

Always remember, everything in moderation is good.

Supplement food:
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Both products can be found at Pet Shack or just PM Nezumitaro.

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post Aug 22 2008, 09:13 AM

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Useful links (credit to Acey)The Hamster Name Generator (thanks to Gazard7)

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Pet shop that provide healthy hamsters and hamster accessories.

Pet Shack

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View the map to know.

Carries cages, a nice variety of hamster accessories and necessities. The only shop carrying WODENT WHEELS for hamsters. Safest and most recommended wheel.

Contact: 603- 5637 4536

Operation Hours
Tue - Sat : 11am to 8pm
Sun : 11am to 6pm
Mon : Closed

www.petshack.com.my

102 Block A Mentari Business Park
Jalan PJS 8/2
Bandar Sunway
46150 Petaling Jaya
Selangor, Malaysia

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post Aug 22 2008, 09:14 AM

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It is often found that many people do not possess a strong reading and researching habit. Although there are often long and informative posts on the first page, newbies do not seem to read them and have to be reminded frequently to do so.

Here I have made some simple and short notes. I sincerely hope that newbies will take at least 5 minutes to read them.

Housing & Setup:

Winter Whites, Russian Campbell Dwarf Hamsters, Roborovskis and Chinese Dwarfs can be housed in the below cages as well as a 1.5ft Plastic Guppy tank.
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Syrian Hamsters need to be housed as below, with either an 8 inch Wodent Wheel or a 21cm Sanko Silent Wheel:
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Items needed:
- A right size of tank or cage.
- A wheel is MANDATORY.
- A water bottle
- A food dish/bowl
- A toilet (if your hamster is toilet trained, Syrians are easy to toilet train)
- Bedding: Breeder Celect, Corn Cob, Wood Shavings (no pine, no cedar)

Diet & Supplement:

Main Diet:
- Prestige Hamster Nature
- Britter Bunny
- Nutri-Smoothie (a Balanced Diet of fresh)
- Oxbow Hay Cake
- LC-Vit Syrup (Multi-Vitamin)
- Calci-Aid (for growing pups and nursing mothers)
- Organic Vegetarian Powder

Others:
- Rolled Oat
- Millets
- Sesame Seed
- Wheat Germ
- Buckwheat
- Dahl
- Pumpkim Seed
- Toufu
- Almond Seed

Note: Ratio of mixing Prestige Hamster: Britter Bunny; 1 bag(800gm) : ¼ bag(250gm)

BIG NO-NO food!!
- Chocolate
- Onion
- Garlic
- Cabbage
- Orange
- Pineapple
- Grapes
- Coffee




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post Aug 22 2008, 09:14 AM

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Hamster Event & Gathering

Gathering:

Hamster small gaterhing @ Pet Shack
Date: 30th August 2008
Time: 1pm - 4pm

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- Photo Competion prize giving.
- Photo Competition participants redeem your small Uncle Taro's Gift.
- Fatsoso Syrian rehome day. Come play with Fatsoso before they go to new home.
- Small little door gift for everyone.
- Promotion for Uncle Taro's new serial smoothie
- Snacks & drinks will be serve
- best of all...... WE CAN CHAT LIVE!!!!!

Bring you hamaster with you, if you like. but make sure you don't over heat them when travel and also they can take the stress of travel. This gathering is mean to be fun and happy.. it wouldn't be nice if someone crying in the gathering ya!! Our hamster is still the priority.. if they canot come out gai gai... we bring goodies home for them
1. nezumitaro
2. sangel
3. blurjoey
4. Ryo with button mushroom
5. Mikelim2020
6. IcedNyior
7. Hazzy
8. Vergas
9. jy14
10. jtl
11. babydugong
12. Sophiera
13. babymoli
14. anderyna
15.harmony
16.

Event:

Vote for Photo Competition
Photo Competition

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post Aug 22 2008, 09:21 AM

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Hehehehe...V10 liao
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post Aug 22 2008, 09:34 AM

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finally a new thread is born~
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post Aug 22 2008, 10:09 AM

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yeah...finnaly v10...so--i can post some pic...enjoy...

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ok...here the description...
no1-9 is in 2ft tank..no 10 is in mama cage..
no 2 is my campbell--u all can see he is bigger than others--so obvious rite??
the 3 small baby is no 5, 7 n 10...so small...but no 5 n 7 i put them in tank already--as i consider they grow big a little..
but no 10-- i still put in mama cage even not drink milk already--still very small...jz afraid that her sibling will buli her...

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LOL u mistyped the furball as ferball la!


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I was wondering why my hammie like that...Can any pro tell me?



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Fixed

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post Aug 22 2008, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 22 2008, 10:16 AM)
Fixed

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 10:14 AM)
I was wondering why my hammie like that...Can any pro tell me?


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I also dunno what happen to your hamster, but it look sick somehow, what had you feed it? Enough water? Did you put it very near the sunlight? Only 1 hamster got sick or others as well?

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 22 2008, 10:23 AM)
I also dunno what happen to your hamster, but it look sick somehow, what had you feed it? Enough water? Did you put it very near the sunlight? Only 1 hamster got sick or others as well?
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Only that female like that. The male nothing, still very active running around.
I feed a little cabbage yesterday and normal food for them lor. Water is in the tank...I'm using Ovo Pad.
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post Aug 22 2008, 10:49 AM

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mecool: Go get nutri smoothies to boost up your pups. They look skinny.
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Okey i saw some shop at Pudu start selling Alex Farm diet food hamster.

Heres my review after month using it.

Ive seen my hammy just took the peanut,corn,kuaci & didnt touch the wheat & grain at all.

My hammy lost abit weight as i can see not chubby like ussual.
Yea i regret buying it.LULZ.
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When the wheat and grain are piled up like a mountain, don't dispose it, force your hamster to eat it tongue.gif

They just don't know how lucky they are to be able to eat staple food, smoothie, vege, fruits and all that, but i'm picky on my food too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 10:30 AM)
Only that female like that. The male nothing, still very active running around.
I feed a little cabbage yesterday and normal food for them lor. Water is in the tank...I'm using Ovo Pad.
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stop cabbage!! cabbage is not a nutrition or good food to feed.
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Nezu, update "Food Not To Feed To Hamsters" lar smile.gif

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