No , giving him an iPhone now will only prone him to theft target ..

My friend's son have a K850i and got snatched from his hand while walking infront of school .. lucky he's not injured ..

It's like giving your kids a gold necklace around his neck ..

@jackdon,
It's ur call really but if U think he deserves it, Y not?! Ocassional gifts are treats and can be a form of good motivation.

Hmm.. now what should I ask dad for?! Any suggestions?

Thanks I actually forsee that So the million question can that brick be UNBRICK after a firmware upgrade ?

jackdon

Yes it can, you also have to wait for the unlocks (preferably software unlocks) to arrive, and judging from the recent activities, you may have to wait a while. A phone is a necessity, and unless the iPhone is your secondary phone, you will feel the pinch of losing the ability to call.

Plus, reverting back to older firmwares bear its own risks and complicated, not for the faint-hearted. And as always, these are all done AT YOUR OWN RISK, so there are never guarantees when it comes to these.

@jackdon,
Yes the phone can be unbricked. You can alwiz use the 'Restore' function

Right now the term BRICK is being use so loosely. A brick in the correct term refer to an un-useable phone. No matter what u do it can't be use again ... unless for a hardware method. No one ever get bricked just by upgrading the firmware. They'll only get locked back to the original state which is can't use any foreign sim cards except for the intended telco only.

People get confuse with brick, unlock, jailbreak terms.

I think what he meant was a future firmware update, that appears may not have its unlocks software-wise yet. Having to wait for these to come up while all the time losing the ability to call, is painful in these days of need-to-be-in-touch-all-the-time .

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Added on August 21, 2008, 4:49 pmA brick, in this sense, is Dad coming back home to that Cable + iTunes screen and not being able to do other than emergency calls. An iPhone is not a phone unless you can use it as such.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Aug 21 2008, 04:49 PM

Ahhh.... ok will not get rid of his cranky phone now just incase. So sifu what software do I use to backup my 1.1.4 firmware now? Hehe.... all these are a challenge rather than a problem. I just dismantle my EeePC 901 and install the touch screen, there was 2 delicate soldering point and all is well, so I think with the right info... the keyword is RIGHT INFO most of these can be solve.

I still remember those XBOX days I screw up the eeprom and had to make a cable and solder the eeprom and program it with an image given by someone in the of those xbox forum. It was pretty scarry .

Terima kasih for the WARNING

jackdon

I'm not saying you cant, but you need to know the responsibility of using one. Once you get that down pat, then it is a matter of keeping yourself up to date with the current happenings. This is not an exclusive club, but it requires forward thinking and learning.

OK boss point taken, will hang around here and look see look see. But I will take the advise of not upgrading for the time being and make sure that is MADE known before giving it to him.

Now... .games games hehe.... any recommendations.

jackdon

On 1.1.4, I cant say much, didnt really had any games on mine while I was on that.

On 2.0.x, get Texas Hold Em, Scrabble, Super Monkey Ball and Critter Crunch. PLEASE get them legitimately, these developers did a great job creating/porting them over. If you need to know how to get a valid US iTunes account and credit into it, there are posts in this forum describing how.

Hi Jackdon

To start with, you can upgrade to firmware 2.0.1 if you wish too. There are guidelines available here to help you to upgrade via software in Mac or Windows Xp.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/768477

As for games in 1.1.4, there are not alot and can't recall what was good.

But in firmware 2.0.1, most of the popular games are mentioned on stringfellows post and there lot's more applications available, free or purchase.

Since upgrading to fw 2.0.1, it has been a tremendous experience with Appstore and of course, the 3rd party software from Cydia and Installer 4.

Do take sometime to read up on how to go about upgrading as it is not easy if you're doing it for the first time.

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Aug 21 2008, 05:22 PM

Davidgary73,

Thanks bro.... that is the answer I was looking for. Will read it and try tonight and hopefully I do not screw it up

Crazy daddy likes to live on the edge......

I hope I can PM you if I screw myself up

Thanks again and this is a nice forum here with lot of advise some even on parenting.

I am off to read that upgrade now .....

Cheers.

jackdon

good luck and secretly i do agree with most of the posts here. 14yo is still a little too...

nice daddy.

14 years old boy equipped with iPhone?wow that is really fascinating.

im never touched a handphone when im on 14.

Well it is either that or daddy keep the iphone and give him my 3 year old Treo 650. Hmmmm.... anyway got the iphone 2G cheap.

jackdon

p.s

A quick question is the SMS issue on firmware 2.0.1 solve, I was told by a friend that he upgrade to version 2 the SMS slow but I do not know if that is 2.0.1.


This post has been edited by jackdon: Aug 21 2008, 09:13 PM

apple fixed most of the 'so call lag' when typing sms and safari on 2.0.1 firmware update. even application have lot more smoother then the previous 2.0 firmware

OK

Waiting for download to complete to start the upgrade to 2.0.1

Wish me luck...

jackdon

@jackdon,
Good luck & and haf fun

tinkerbel,

Yup @String was right it was not for the faint heart. I did screw up initially took me a while to get back to where I was. OK this is what happen.

Yesterday download all the files required.

1. 2G restore file
2. Winpwm 2.0.0.4
3. Boot image for 3.9 and 4.6

The first step of ipsw builder was not a problem and pretty straight forward. Proceed as per instruction from Winpwn 2.0 guide. http://sleepers.net/news/2008/07/25/winpwn-20-guide/

Save the file up and now we need to put the iphone in the DFU mode. This is tricky and I tried for about 20 minutes and could not get it on the DFU mode. Damn... so I google for an easy way and found a DOS mode of putting the iphone to DFU and the nightmare begins. Onces I run that DFU utility it blank iphone screen and turn it white as stated in the webpage so I was not worried.

Proceed to do the shift restore from itune 7.7 in my Vista PC. After about 5 minutes ERROR 1604.....

Power down the phone and power it up the iphone boots up in the recovery mode which shows itune logo and the USB connector. I just could not get it out of this mode by powering it off..... hold the power button for 20 seconds.... hold the power button and the home button together and still it would always boot up in the mode.

Then the WIFE came in and it is about 4pm and said come lets go to MAHA 2008..... what to do..... left the iphone on the table and off we go to MAHA 2008. I think 80% of the time when I was in MAHA 2008 my mind was racing ... where did I screwup. We finally reach home around 8.30.

I thought it was Windows Vista that was the issue so I install itune in my multimedia PC and ran itune shift restore and the same results. Well Google that problem and downloaded ibrickr 0.91 and that brought my iphone back to my 1.1.4 state... Whew..... Check the phone and it seems to be ok.

Well like daddy like to live on the edge and tried the DFU method 3 and it work. And I proceed with the itune Shift Restore and 15 to 20 minutes I am now on 2.0.1..

hehe.... now I have to do the number patch.....

What a day.

jackdon.