Hi,

Just got an Iphone 8GB not the 3G, it is on Firmware 1.1.4 already unlock. I am planning to give to my son (lucky fellow). My question is that should I upgrade it to firmware 2.0 firmware or just leave it as it is. Also is there a way to prevent him from upgrading it. His main usage would be SMS, Wifi. I will not allow him to use the Edge because of the cost.

Any suggestion like application for a 14 year old kids. A friend brought this phone back from the US a week ago so the cost should not be too expensive.

jackdon

This post has been edited by jackdon: Aug 21 2008, 09:54 AM

mennmenn,

Hey thanks.... now a days the kids are my boss. Every time the kids call they will ask "where are U dad or why so late and how long before you reach"

Hehe.... I am still learning how to use Itune, never a fan of itune so dun know how to upload movies than I had converted yesterday. Any quite tutorial.

jackdon

Another silly question but important, what happen if he upgrade the firmware to 2.0.2. Will it brick the phone ?

jackdon

OK is there a hack fo 2.0.2 now, is it something like pwnwin ?

jackdon

Ini macam susah so must tell him not to update then. Can we backup my existing 1.1.4 then if got problem then restore back.

On another matter I just put in my Maxisbroad band and able to surf and sms. The edge settings is slightly different

APN = maxisbb
User = maxis
password = wap

The APN for Maxisbroad band is not the same as Maxis Mobile.

jackdon.

tinkerbel,

Well the phone cost less than 1K for me and his choice was a sony w890 that cost about 1.5K. IMHO I do not think so because there will be condition attach you know and I keep my kids in line. Well how many of you or your kids does the dishes at home after all your meals. My kids does that . They are responsible with their $$$ as far as I know .

Well tinkerbel wait till you are a parent N you will know. When I was at his age I don't think I ever got anything from my old man .

hehe.... maybat at 24 I have to get him a car to get him started in life. Damn...... we had to work our butts off and now things are so different.

jackdon

Hehe.... to be honest it is also a daddy's toy. Anyway the phone is already in my hand so lets see. What sorts of complications do you forsee ?

jackdon.

Thanks I actually forsee that So the million question can that brick be UNBRICK after a firmware upgrade ?

jackdon

Ahhh.... ok will not get rid of his cranky phone now just incase. So sifu what software do I use to backup my 1.1.4 firmware now? Hehe.... all these are a challenge rather than a problem. I just dismantle my EeePC 901 and install the touch screen, there was 2 delicate soldering point and all is well, so I think with the right info... the keyword is RIGHT INFO most of these can be solve.

I still remember those XBOX days I screw up the eeprom and had to make a cable and solder the eeprom and program it with an image given by someone in the of those xbox forum. It was pretty scarry .

Terima kasih for the WARNING

jackdon

OK boss point taken, will hang around here and look see look see. But I will take the advise of not upgrading for the time being and make sure that is MADE known before giving it to him.

Now... .games games hehe.... any recommendations.

jackdon

Davidgary73,

Thanks bro.... that is the answer I was looking for. Will read it and try tonight and hopefully I do not screw it up

Crazy daddy likes to live on the edge......

I hope I can PM you if I screw myself up

Thanks again and this is a nice forum here with lot of advise some even on parenting.

I am off to read that upgrade now .....

Cheers.

jackdon

Well it is either that or daddy keep the iphone and give him my 3 year old Treo 650. Hmmmm.... anyway got the iphone 2G cheap.

jackdon

p.s

A quick question is the SMS issue on firmware 2.0.1 solve, I was told by a friend that he upgrade to version 2 the SMS slow but I do not know if that is 2.0.1.


This post has been edited by jackdon: Aug 21 2008, 09:13 PM

OK

Waiting for download to complete to start the upgrade to 2.0.1

Wish me luck...

jackdon

tinkerbel,

Yup @String was right it was not for the faint heart. I did screw up initially took me a while to get back to where I was. OK this is what happen.

Yesterday download all the files required.

1. 2G restore file
2. Winpwm 2.0.0.4
3. Boot image for 3.9 and 4.6

The first step of ipsw builder was not a problem and pretty straight forward. Proceed as per instruction from Winpwn 2.0 guide. http://sleepers.net/news/2008/07/25/winpwn-20-guide/

Save the file up and now we need to put the iphone in the DFU mode. This is tricky and I tried for about 20 minutes and could not get it on the DFU mode. Damn... so I google for an easy way and found a DOS mode of putting the iphone to DFU and the nightmare begins. Onces I run that DFU utility it blank iphone screen and turn it white as stated in the webpage so I was not worried.

Proceed to do the shift restore from itune 7.7 in my Vista PC. After about 5 minutes ERROR 1604.....

Power down the phone and power it up the iphone boots up in the recovery mode which shows itune logo and the USB connector. I just could not get it out of this mode by powering it off..... hold the power button for 20 seconds.... hold the power button and the home button together and still it would always boot up in the mode.

Then the WIFE came in and it is about 4pm and said come lets go to MAHA 2008..... what to do..... left the iphone on the table and off we go to MAHA 2008. I think 80% of the time when I was in MAHA 2008 my mind was racing ... where did I screwup. We finally reach home around 8.30.

I thought it was Windows Vista that was the issue so I install itune in my multimedia PC and ran itune shift restore and the same results. Well Google that problem and downloaded ibrickr 0.91 and that brought my iphone back to my 1.1.4 state... Whew..... Check the phone and it seems to be ok.

Well like daddy like to live on the edge and tried the DFU method 3 and it work. And I proceed with the itune Shift Restore and 15 to 20 minutes I am now on 2.0.1..

hehe.... now I have to do the number patch.....

What a day.

jackdon.

@Stringfellow,

Thanks for the compliment and yup the feeling is WOW ....

I do have a quick question since I am still a noob that follows instruction to the dot. Now that I have a 2.0.1 working image file. Can I use that if my son screws it up by updating it mistakenly. Well to day is my last day with the phone as he is due back tomorrow from his MSSM competition in Johor. So it will be back to my boring Treo 650 Palm OS that I can't seems to live without it.

Seriously IMO I think Version 1.1.4 is much snappier.

And thanks to all that had given me valueable information and point this noob in the right direction.

jackdon

enemysaxon,

Yup he sure is a lucky fellow the iphone as a gift for him was like an accident.

A few months back a good friend said that his nephew was coming back from the US for a holiday and I said. Pick one iphone back for me. Well that did not happen because there were too many request but his other brother came back a week ago with one iphone for me. I guess many other people was not keen because of the release of the 3G so I pick it up so it should not cost me more that RM 1,000/= .

For the last few weeks my son's 2 year old phone was getting cranky and he had been complaining and keep hinting that he wanted a SE W890i and I check that new unit is about Rm1.4 K. So I might as well give him this iphone. So I actually save RM400/= giving him this phone even though I like it so much.

Well... wait till some of you become parent n you will know.

jackdon

MAHA 2008 = Malaysia Agriculture, Horticulture & Agrotourism Show 2008

Entrance is free check out http://www.mahaexpo.com/

I would love to give my son the Treo 650 but I think there will be mutiny at home anyway there are quite a few application on the Treo that I use almost everyday plus the FACT that I can type 5 times faster on the Treo than on the Iphone .

hehe..... daddy may have a secret plan as my phone is due for an upgrade hehe...... let see how the Treo 800 3G when will be launch else who knows I may have a friend in NZ or HK than can get me a 3G phone soon .

I just love the iphone interface and amaze how quick it is. I use xillisoft to convert Shrek the Third and it is cool. Yup BossPref looks great for preventing the Edge usage accidently and if he needs to go online he can turn it on for a few show off to his friends .

Well thanks for all your support here, I have to admit with the support and the fact that I know that if I realy really screw up I can get help here really pushes me ahead with the upgrade.

jackdon in 5 hours will be back to his old Palm OS Treo 650

P.S

Any IM client that is compatible with Windows Messenger, I am sure he will be asking.

This post has been edited by jackdon: Aug 23 2008, 10:45 AM

Now I got a problem, son came back and I had all my contacts in the phone so we did a reset to erase all content and settings. It went on for an hour and after that the apple logo appear and the clocklike circle is on for almost 30 minutes not moving. I do a press the power and the home button to turn it off and power on again it seems to be the same. Any idea or should I reload it again.

jackdon

Yup,

I wasn't that worried and I DFU it again and shitf restore from itune and now back to square one.... now this "DO NOT RESET WIPE OFF CONTENT AND SETTINGS" should be in the sticky.

hehe...... now I have to patch the phone patch and contact patch again.

So for all you out the do not panic, the iphone is actually a small power full computer running a strip down version of macos 10 which is actually Linux. So as long as we can reset the phone to the DFU mode we can sort of GHOST it back.

It maybe those update I did or Bosspref causing the issue I suspect.

jackdon.

Bosspref, I install from Cydia and it is pretty cool able to turn off the Edge services.

Well I now officially do not have the iphone but I will hang around to take a peek on and off just incase I need to update HIS iphone.

Hey thank for all the support.

Cheers....

jackdon