If I were you, I would not get him an iPhone. The complications that ensue later will make you regret getting him one.
Noob - need a little help
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Aug 21 2008, 04:22 PM
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Kid plug in iPhone to iTunes. iTunes spits out there's a new firmware update, Kid thought nothing of it, and updated. iPhone becomes locked. Kid horrified, hides the fact that he did it. Dad come back home and found a brick instead of an iPhone.
Sounds like a nice plot for a sitcom, but the outcome may not be so pleasant. And believe me, we have seen TOO MANY cases like this already. The point im trying to make here is, educate, educate, EDUCATE! You need to be well armed with knowledge, of what to do AND what NOT to do, before you become an iPhone user. Without these, I can GUARANTEE you coming back here with questions, which may or may not be answered as nicely and politely as what you're getting here. Just a heads-up to you.  This post has been edited by stringfellow: Aug 21 2008, 04:22 PM |
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Aug 21 2008, 04:46 PM
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Yes it can, you also have to wait for the unlocks (preferably software unlocks) to arrive, and judging from the recent activities, you may have to wait a while. A phone is a necessity, and unless the iPhone is your secondary phone, you will feel the pinch of losing the ability to call.
Plus, reverting back to older firmwares bear its own risks and complicated, not for the faint-hearted. And as always, these are all done AT YOUR OWN RISK, so there are never guarantees when it comes to these. |
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Aug 21 2008, 04:47 PM
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I think what he meant was a future firmware update, that appears may not have its unlocks software-wise yet. Having to wait for these to come up while all the time losing the ability to call, is painful in these days of need-to-be-in-touch-all-the-time .
Added on August 21, 2008, 4:49 pmA brick, in this sense, is Dad coming back home to that Cable + iTunes screen and not being able to do other than emergency calls. An iPhone is not a phone unless you can use it as such. This post has been edited by stringfellow: Aug 21 2008, 04:49 PM |
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Aug 21 2008, 05:00 PM
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I'm not saying you cant, but you need to know the responsibility of using one. Once you get that down pat, then it is a matter of keeping yourself up to date with the current happenings. This is not an exclusive club, but it requires forward thinking and learning.
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Aug 21 2008, 05:09 PM
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On 1.1.4, I cant say much, didnt really had any games on mine while I was on that.
On 2.0.x, get Texas Hold Em, Scrabble, Super Monkey Ball and Critter Crunch. PLEASE get them legitimately, these developers did a great job creating/porting them over. If you need to know how to get a valid US iTunes account and credit into it, there are posts in this forum describing how. |
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Aug 22 2008, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(jackdon @ Aug 22 2008, 11:02 PM) tinkerbel, I SINCERELY SALUTE YOU, JACKDON!Yup @String was right it was not for the faint heart. I did screw up initially took me a while to get back to where I was. OK this is what happen. Yesterday download all the files required. 1. 2G restore file 2. Winpwm 2.0.0.4 3. Boot image for 3.9 and 4.6 The first step of ipsw builder was not a problem and pretty straight forward. Proceed as per instruction from Winpwn 2.0 guide. http://sleepers.net/news/2008/07/25/winpwn-20-guide/ Save the file up and now we need to put the iphone in the DFU mode. This is tricky and I tried for about 20 minutes and could not get it on the DFU mode. Damn... so I google for an easy way and found a DOS mode of putting the iphone to DFU and the nightmare begins. Onces I run that DFU utility it blank iphone screen and turn it white as stated in the webpage so I was not worried. Proceed to do the shift restore from itune 7.7 in my Vista PC. After about 5 minutes ERROR 1604.....  Power down the phone and power it up the iphone boots up in the recovery mode which shows itune logo and the USB connector. I just could not get it out of this mode by powering it off..... hold the power button for 20 seconds.... hold the power button and the home button together and still it would always boot up in the mode. Then the WIFE came in and it is about 4pm and said come lets go to MAHA 2008.....  what to do..... left the iphone on the table and off we go to MAHA 2008. I think 80% of the time when I was in MAHA 2008 my mind was racing ... where did I screwup. We finally reach home around 8.30.I thought it was Windows Vista that was the issue so I install itune in my multimedia PC and ran itune shift restore and the same results. Well Google that problem and downloaded ibrickr 0.91 and that brought my iphone back to my 1.1.4 state... Whew.....  Check the phone and it seems to be ok. Well like daddy like to live on the edge and tried the DFU method 3 and it work. And I proceed with the itune Shift Restore and 15 to 20 minutes I am now on 2.0.1.. hehe.... now I have to do the number patch..... What a day. jackdon.  You are the epitome of someone who knew very little about the iPhone, and yet took the challenge, and learn up about the process, and the end result, manages independantly, to update your iPhone to 2.0.1. This is the attitude we want to see in the forum, the self-reliance, as well as you being able to contribute your say about your experiences, your dos and donts, the recommendeds and the avoidances. This is the prime example of WHY we want newbies to learn and do things themselves. I may not be able to answer for Jackdon, but for me, when I first managed to update 1.0.2 (yes, I had mine that old!) and unlocked it using command-line processes via Terminal, the end result is damn satisfying. I get a nice working iPhone, and I get to contribute to the community with my experiences. In the end, I became not an observer, but I help contribute to the community. Good show, Jackdon, and congratulations once again!  |
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Aug 23 2008, 12:02 AM
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You can go up to 2.0.2, there have been reports on successful attempts at pwning 2.0.2 by hskoon.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/771084 Note that he used Quickpwn instead of Pwnage Tool or Winpwn, plus he said you only need to jailbreak it, it remained unlocked. |
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Aug 23 2008, 12:10 AM
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enemysaxon, we all know, even with whatever verdict the outcome of the "episode" is, that what is right and what is wrong. I may be touch on the newbies, but examples like Jackdon here is the result paying off.
For what it is worth, this further proves my suspicion, and cements my lack of faith on the people that handle this forum. Believe me, it may come to a point where they would come back to me and say "Tak suka? Keluar!", just like that ignorant MP in Parliament. |
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Aug 23 2008, 02:33 PM
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Stick it in your Mac/PC and see if iTunes sees it. That may jumpstart the iPhone.
I dare not advise anything further, it may be an intermittent kinda thing. |
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