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Hobbies BONSAI MALAYSIA, here we talk abt bonsai art

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cjloong
post Sep 30 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Sep 29 2013, 09:54 PM)
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How large is the diameter of the base? Can't tell from the picture. I think if the roots are developed, it could become a eerie bonsai... ;-)

But it is a nice one. Looks like gonna finish very soon. You have quite a number of ficus ya... ;-)
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post Oct 1 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(zabel8484 @ Sep 30 2013, 11:51 PM)
Anyone kind to explain more on cascading style? And how to generally shaping a nursery material to it? Thanks
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Loo's plant is cascade (becoming one)...

But in general, select a material with strong branch (that is kinda low)... then train that branch down step by step.

Here is a link on an example: http://www.bonsai4me.com/AdvTech/ATJuniperStory.htm

You need a few things:
1) Sharp turns
2) Species that are flexible (easier to train to become cascade)
3) Naturally horizontal growing species is also easier.
4) Use tall slender pot when done(or almost done).

Which tree are you trainig? Any pics?

Maybe try to tilt the pot to see if you can find a cascade form. Then cut the rest away and wire to accomplish the form.

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post Oct 1 2013, 06:26 PM

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Just saw an example. http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t2284-ju...n-yamadori-2005

Choose slanting plants for best results.
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post Oct 2 2013, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Oct 2 2013, 09:06 PM)
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This ficus will never be weird. Lots of reshaping will be done as it grows in order to ensure it to turn into a decent looking bonsai.

The aired roots near to the main trunk will be coiled around the trunk as it grows, so to enable them to fuse together.
The fusing of roots and trunk will help to speed up trunk thickening and enhancing the characteristic of Ficus.

The lower branches will be cut to expose about a third of the tree height. This will only be done when the over tree height of the tree be determined.
The remaining branches will be cut off alternatively and selectively when decision has made on what to do to the top of the tree.

Now come the top part of the tree.
Presently this part is in a very unpleasant looking shape.
It's like a neck connecting a head to a body.
If new branches can grow from the "neck" portion, then the gap will be filled and the "neck" will disappear. If not, the "head" will have to be cut off allowing
new shoots to grow, then select a suitable new grown shoot to form the apex. Anyway, ficus is a specie that can back bud easily. New branches grow from the "neck"
portion is very possible.

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At this stage, this tree is far from finished. It is potted and so growth will slow down, it might take another 3-4 year to reach a decent looking stage.
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Nice explanation. Learnt from it. wink.gif

I read back my comments, I think eerie is not the word to use. What I mean is like those angkor watt trees. Amazing trees actually. I use the word out of a spur actually, apologies... wink.gif

I was talking to a malay sifu a few months ago. He use the word "pokok gaya hantu" so without thinking much the word just came out...

Regarding the neck, I suggest grafting. Thread grafting to be more specific... but some people dont like grafts because they are inherently weak.

In bonsai terms 3 years is short right... ha ha..


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post Oct 2 2013, 10:19 PM

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Hi my latest dig. First one is normal position. Pic 2 and 3 are other possible angles. Gonna do a lot of root work next depending on choice of position.


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post Oct 3 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Alvchin @ Oct 3 2013, 01:58 AM)
Wah how many more to dig Cj? Hahaha if u have too many can move some to my house.
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Very soon Alvin, very soon... ;-) The wrigthia trees I have, that would be a big headache with lots of layered sections.
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post Oct 5 2013, 10:31 PM

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Nice examples... alamak no like button...smile.gif
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post Oct 6 2013, 05:51 PM

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This one have to click like button many times. wink.gif
Makes so much difference when 3rd generation branching is achieved.
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post Oct 10 2013, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Alvchin @ Oct 10 2013, 09:21 PM)
Sharing my mulberry which recently triumphant over the mealybugs & started fruiting. Bought in May this year & is adjusting pretty well to training.
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Nice tree. Especially with fruits. When dark the fruits are quite nice to eat... wink.gif

By itself it looks nice. A method to improve it is to fatten the current apex or to use fat 1st branch as apex. Both have pros and cons. But whatever you want to do, I think ket it increase vigor first. (Because of the fight) This months are the best times.


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post Oct 11 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Alvchin @ Oct 11 2013, 08:34 AM)
Maybe I should try tilting the tree & use the fattest section as the main trunk line? Bottom trunk I'll have to wait for the nebari to build up.
Looks good? I'll try... Hahaha
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This looks more natural.

If its too hard to fix the Nebari, a shortcut (2 years +) can be used. What they do is when there are plenty of leaves (like double or triple of this), they ground layer the widest section (could be near to the roots region)... Not sure if mulberry layer well or not but something to consider.

http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t1660-gr...m-updates#14848
http://bonsaistudygroup.com/deciduous-bons...ers-for-nebari/

Sometimes, we see a bag at the bottom of many sifu's trees. I am guessing that they might be doing this.

Additional note: The bottom part after you separate can become a clump style in future if you can deal with the roots.

cj

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post Oct 12 2013, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Oct 12 2013, 06:46 PM)
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Some of my collections for sharing.

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Need to ask you about the top right plant. What species is it?

Also the red poles? What is it? Interesting way of display...

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post Oct 13 2013, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Oct 13 2013, 04:27 PM)
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Bunjin  "MAT SALLEH STYLE"

Created this for the fun of photo snapping.

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Hope u don't mind me asking again, what species is this. I have one and the branches close to trunk just gone yellow. Suspect its the heat before the recent rain. The tips are still nice. Just those branches close to the trunk suddenly dried off.

Whats your experience with this species?

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post Oct 13 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Oct 13 2013, 04:14 PM)
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That specie is called Juniperous porcumbens. Chinese call it "sleeping pine"
It's not a pine species. Because of its characteristic of growing side way, like sleeping, that's the reason it got it's Chinese name.
I don't like this specie much because it need frequent maintenance. 

This one,  took me an hour to restore back to a quite presentable shape but with that big ball of foliage, make the tree look somehow unbalance.
..... just let it be lah....

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This is another "sleeping pine" which I've actually thrown into the garbage wheel borrower because it was badly infected.
My wife salvaged it and left in a corner of my garden for a couple of months, it survived. And so I decided to give it a second chance.

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I see. I have the round type. Wondering if it is the same.
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post Oct 17 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Oct 15 2013, 04:06 PM)
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This specie belongs to the False Cypress family.
Probably Boulevard or Japanese False Cypress, hope somebody can give its exact identification.



False Cypress is not a material for bonsai but garden plant.
Mainly due to foliage near to the main stem grow vigorously and easily dry up.



Back budding is extremely slow, and very often new shoot will not grow at all after a branch is cut.

In order to keep a False Cypress looks green without dry foliage, the branches along the main stem must be thin out
to allow sunlight shines directly to the stem and branches.
Thanks for your tips. Very good explanation.

For me, now I am left with long branches, gotta figure out how to do grafting I guess. Or else, have to think about what style to make that use long branches. (sigh)

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post Oct 19 2013, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Loo9983 @ Oct 19 2013, 11:00 AM)
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Very nice. How do u keep them? The pot very fast dry out right?
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post Oct 23 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Oct 23 2013, 02:19 PM)
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Hi Guys,

Got any good stuff?
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Wah, this place... in a twinkling of an eye, zap... money gone... ha ha... Dangerous.

Myself, got 4 junipers (small ones). Didn't take picture yet (leaving it there to regain health)...

Alv got a few also (I'll leave it to him to explain)...

Overall nice trip, we got to "chit chat"/"yum cha" with owner and a few sifus who happen to be there. They gave us a couple of valuable tips about certain species... ;-)

Hey, Bonsailelong, the last time you went there? Sat right? Was the traffic bad?
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:37 PM

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BTW. Just to add, there is a new bonsai nursery in OUG. It has stock up a little more but they sell mostly 80% to completed stuffs. It is sort of a branch of Soon Lee (Sg. Buloh).

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post Oct 27 2013, 11:57 PM

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Your buxus are nice? I wish i have something like that.
Small suggestion is to create some gaps in canopy so birds can fly through. This would create more interest as well. Or try to create many pads that makeup The whole pad. (Breaking away from the mushroom look)

Pot can improve as well.

For me I have 3 plants. 1/2 dead now. I think I cut too much roots during hot season. Hope they grow back as they are in icu now.

Will post my juniper later. Need to improve their health first.

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post Oct 28 2013, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Oct 28 2013, 10:16 PM)
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"Small suggestion is to create some gaps in canopy so birds can fly through. This would create more interest as well. Or try to create many pads that makeup The whole pad. (Breaking away from the mushroom look)"

Sorry, can't catch what you mean? ... allowing bird to fly through ?  rclxub.gif
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Actually your bonsai very nice already. I do see some of what I describe after closer look. What I mean is in this article.
http://bonsaikc.com/bonsai/bonsai-basics/pruning/

Look for the open space section.

Many pads forming a single pad usually is for far view trees. Like in attached picture. Maybe hard to do for small bonsai.



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post Oct 28 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(g400g400 @ Jan 22 2013, 02:08 PM)
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The above illustrates open space (aka. birds analogy)

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