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post Dec 16 2010, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Dec 14 2010, 12:45 PM)
No worries if you want
Thank KC, i can give it to my sister, her car is older.

Just want to ask, PPS detailing you hear b4?It is no need to wax for 3 yrs, what do you think?
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post Dec 16 2010, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(fbong @ Dec 16 2010, 05:37 PM)
Thank KC, i can give it to my sister, her car is older.

Just want to ask, PPS detailing you hear b4?It is no need to wax for 3 yrs, what do you think?
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Added on December 17, 2010, 1:32 amA regular part of car maintenance is something as simple as a car wash. While you are driving around, take a look at how many people have extremely dirty cars. It is very surprising that many people do not keep up with this simple maintenance technique. A car is an investment for many people, and yet some people will not even get their car washed. A car wash can be done your self or train your helpers to do it. Having it done by someone else should not cost you more than a paint work ......

and it will definately cost more than a paint work when you send it to a road side car wash

a well detailed car .....


and our car paint suppose to last as long as your car lasting...
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3 months later

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how can it became worn out & damaged in just 90 days (once a week wash - while having breakfast on sat morning)

nice foam bubble aka SNOW WASH Boss

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it must be winter - snow flakes
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good - do you not know, how do they magically clean up yr white car so white...i happen to wait for fellow forumer & shock that they did it so openly

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sabun fab - aka powder clothing detergent

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nicely massage on to the paint - with a sponge that never wash or rinse (the fume when they clean the wheel - suffocates me while standing beside it taking pics)

the first 2 thing:-
driver still sitting in the car with running engine (under sunny day)
the hood is hot & the wheel is hotter & suddenly comes SNOW...danger to wearing out both car paint coat & wheels coat....brakes may get heat up to 200-300 degree Celsius
splashes of jet sprayed water & aggressive cleaner - help to shorten the life spent

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more shocking - some medium & expensive car even lining up ...for a wash like these

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Using Dish washing liquid like glo or cleanmaid is bad as because they dry out our car's paint. If you want to remove old wax you should use a regularly ....and it may cause damaged your clear coat

There 2 great danger -in using a wrong detergent for a car wash

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a very good article - A deadly rinse: The dangers of hydrofluoric acid


Do its cleaning virtues outweigh its many risks?
The brittle, discoloured fingernails will give away any detailer who's been using an HF solution - without protective gloves - use in cleaning the car , engine or wheels. HF is not like other highly corrosive acids. Mix it with equal parts of water (as many overzealous operators ), spill a little on your unprotected hand and you won't even feel any pain as it begins to burn through your skin, searching for the calcium in your bones.

many of such chemical found in these snow wash foam, as widely premixes in a 30-40-gallon drum and run through a air pressure pump, as a pre-rinse. although it has the ability to remove loose traces of foam polish wax, shine glass and chrome, reduce streaking and neutralize the pH on vehicles that have just been through an alkaline pre-soak and washed with reclaim water.

imagine Without the agitation or friction of brushes, cloth or other type of physical contact, many touchless operators feel that the only way to loosen road film is to use a pre-soak that has been spiked with a healthy dose of hydrofluoric acid.

if used in Full-strength, it is used to etch glass. In a dilute solution, it removes acid rain spots from windshields and puts a showroom-like shine on glass.

HF burn covering less than 2 percent of your body can kill you. And you probably won't even know you're in danger until it's too late.

another chemical found in these detergent is SLS

So why is a dangerous chemical like sodium laureth sulfate used in our car shampoos?

The answer is simple - it is cheap. The sodium laureth sulfate found in most of our cleaners is exactly the same as you would find in a car wash or even a garage, where it is used to degrease car engines.

In the same way as it dissolves the grease on car engines, SLES also dissolves the oils on your skin, which can cause a drying effect. It is also well documented that it denatures skin proteins, which causes not only irritation, but also allows environmental contaminants easier access to the lower, sensitive layers of the skin.


conclusion
In the end it can cause more damage than what you were trying to clean in the first place. This means no laundry detergent or bubble bath.

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post Dec 17 2010, 11:39 AM

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First of all it is a good article for newbie and those who want to taking care their lovely car. rclxms.gif

What you said is correct , i dun maintenance well for my old wira,never wash within half year,i send old wira to a road side car wash.So the outlook very bad..

Now my new car i need to taking care of it, since day 1 wash by toyota, now i wash myself, the hard things is waxing job and scratch.

Very Amazing your good job!

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post Dec 18 2010, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(fbong @ Dec 17 2010, 12:39 PM)
First of all it is a good article for newbie and those who want to taking care their lovely car.  rclxms.gif

What you said is correct , i dun maintenance well for my old wira,never wash within half year,i send old wira to a road side car wash.So the outlook very bad..

Now my new car i need to taking care of it, since day 1 wash by toyota, now i wash myself, the hard things is waxing job and scratch.

Very Amazing your good job!
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no worries - most importantly u did the right thing now


Added on December 18, 2010, 6:37 am
QUOTE(KC's @ Dec 18 2010, 01:23 AM)
no worries - most importantly u did the right thing now
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do you not know "no body cares for your car better than you " - many of such place does good washes - but the fact remain
when we drive out our vehicle for a wash , we always wanted it to be as quickly as possible- hardly we have time to wait to cool down our ride - both body paint & wheels is hot - & imagine the splashes of cold water - with power pressure jet spray on yr engine hood & wheels - is the both extreme .... why risking our ride to this harsh environment & is not good long term

back at home - we take leisure to do it, to me this is therapeutic, i love to splash water - just an example - back at home we are very careful in washing our dishes - using la AMway, COsway or Myway dish liquid detergent -
if we patronised any road side stall - chances are they wouldn't be using this, as it is not cost effective, i have seen many scrubbing with green cloth(scotchbrites) with cap HARIMAU powder la, take a look at some of this acrylic utensils - worn off & chips, wear down - the issue of ownership

our paint is just 2 mil of an micron thick (as thick as a cigarette wrapper) this clear coat is very thin & must handle with care - esp bimmers...cos when this fail our paint will be damaged...


here is some of the common clear coat failure - mostly to do with road side car wash

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my friend send his car regularly
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prevention is always better than cure

i did by here is my quick & effective way

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Hi bro KC, mind to share where can i get the Maguiars Mirror glaze products?
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post Dec 18 2010, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Dec 18 2010, 12:23 AM)
no worries - most importantly u did the right thing now


Added on December 18, 2010, 6:37 am

prevention is always better than cure

ISee the pic , not dare to do with road side car wash...skin tear off. shocking.gif

Wow, wash 2 car and wax 1 car in 60 min with perfect look!
scratches can take out without polishing?How do you do that?

After read some of your article, i started to look into more detail part.ex : wheel, engine etc.
Before that i was thinking car wash is just so easy, wash, rinse,dry shocking.gif

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post Dec 18 2010, 10:40 PM

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how about windscreen protection? any particular product for it?thanks.
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post Dec 19 2010, 07:25 PM

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Hi KC, when a chance to meet up with you, i wanted to exchange the no 3 clay bar with you, not giving to my sister.
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post Dec 20 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(fbong @ Dec 18 2010, 11:25 PM)
ISee the pic , not dare to do with road side car wash...skin tear off. shocking.gif

Wow,  wash 2 car and wax 1 car in 60 min with perfect look!
scratches can take out without polishing?How do you do that?

After read some of your article, i started to look into more detail part.ex : wheel, engine etc.
Before that i was thinking car wash is just so easy, wash, rinse,dry shocking.gif
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great buddy & i am glad yr interest in taking care sparks up

QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Dec 18 2010, 11:40 PM)
how about windscreen protection? any particular product for it?thanks.
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i opti coat

QUOTE(fbong @ Dec 19 2010, 08:25 PM)
Hi KC, when a chance to meet up with you, i wanted to exchange the no 3 clay bar with you, not giving to my sister.
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sure pls sms me where to meet ...i would be in cheras or Sunway
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post Dec 20 2010, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Dec 20 2010, 04:41 PM)
great buddy & i am glad yr interest in taking care sparks up
i opti coat
sure pls  sms me where to meet ...i would be in cheras or Sunway
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Need step by step to learn...

KC, i read your article, know the important of using Micro Fiber towel for wash and dry, how much do you sell for it?

About the ONR, how much?how to use it?

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hi,
i need you all help on how to clean up the dirt stain left under mango tree for few days? really appreciate helps...i will post up the picture later
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Dec 20 2010, 05:20 PM)
hi,
i need you all help on how to clean up the dirt stain left under mango tree for few days? really appreciate helps...i will post up the picture later
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KC very expert in this...detailing.
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post Dec 21 2010, 10:33 AM

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Guys, another thing that has been on my mind, do you apply the wax to a Damp applicator foam pad? or a dry one?

Like a lot of guides, they tell us to clean the pads when it gets dirty, how exactly do you go about that? wash it in detergent, wring it out, and apply it again?
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post Dec 21 2010, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(m|ng @ Dec 21 2010, 10:33 AM)
Guys, another thing that has been on my mind, do you apply the wax to a Damp applicator foam pad? or a dry one?

Like a lot of guides, they tell us to clean the pads when it gets dirty, how exactly do you go about that? wash it in detergent, wring it out, and apply it again?
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Read the LSP(wax/sealants) instructions, most carnauba paste wax indicate damp. Liquid waxes usually dry but lots like to spray some QD on the applicator.
Learn by experience but if not stated, use dry and see if works, then mist a bit QD and try.

During LSP application, pads should NEVER be dirty. If they are usually the LSP have some cleaning agents (AIO) or the car is not washed clean yet making it dangerous for waxing causing swirls. Removal cloth should be relatively clean if dirty meaning you need to polish the car.

Wash with APC, dishwashing liquid, detergents as needed. Agitate a bit and better to let it rinse cleanly dry before reusing if need dry applicator.
Any dirt or contaminats left will scratch your car thus lots of US detailers "throw away" the once used applicator to not take the risk.
He he.. I think not in Malaysialah.. just clean it well, if in doubt, don't use it on paint. Cheers

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Added on December 21, 2010, 2:04 pm
QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Dec 18 2010, 10:40 PM)
how about windscreen protection? any particular product for it?thanks.
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He he.. besides professional Opticoat as suggested by bro KC, I'll suggest to treat the windscreen same as paint, ie don't let it too dirty until contaminants etch in.
Else, it will have watermarks in windscreen that may be even harder to remove than paint etching which can be removed by polish or compounds smile.gif

This post has been edited by msk: Dec 21 2010, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Dec 20 2010, 06:20 PM)
hi,
i need you all help on how to clean up the dirt stain left under mango tree for few days? really appreciate helps...i will post up the picture later
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bro I use Power clean - & got it out, many of them even things left for months -
Hi buddy
Meguiars trainer - matt davis told me that he never see so much acid rain in anywhere in the world than Malaysia - i still have that training video

I am sure there is plenty of rubber stains on light coloured cars - eg side mirror - a frame rubber - door jam rubber - boot - head light

eg - last week we had one of the biggest TT gathering at MMZ

i did this cleaning , which the owner cant clean at all
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with power clean & rinse off

A scratch mark..?
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just spray and wipe!
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now caress the bonnet ..!!
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removing a scratch without polishing or compounding - why do we want to risk - of over cut - the only protection you got is your clear coat - so take care of it



QUOTE(fbong @ Dec 20 2010, 06:25 PM)
KC very expert in this...detailing.
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hahahaha - i am still exporing but happpen to expore earlier
so i can talk more for now

pls start detailing yr own car

QUOTE(m|ng @ Dec 21 2010, 11:33 AM)
Guys, another thing that has been on my mind, do you apply the wax to a Damp applicator foam pad? or a dry one?

Like a lot of guides, they tell us to clean the pads when it gets dirty, how exactly do you go about that? wash it in detergent, wring it out, and apply it again?
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i prefer a clean one - yes if u r applying Megs spray wax - so the dry microfibers wouldnt collect it away

& nevertheless none of the wax really encourage that - as when water mixed into waxes or sealant it change it substance - as water has a-z varies (mineral content)

QUOTE(msk @ Dec 21 2010, 03:01 PM)
Read the LSP(wax/sealants) instructions, most carnauba paste wax indicate damp. Liquid waxes usually dry but lots like to spray some QD on the applicator.
Learn by experience but if not stated, use dry and see if works, then mist a bit QD and try.

During LSP application, pads should NEVER be dirty. If they are usually the LSP have some cleaning agents (AIO) or the car is not washed clean yet making it dangerous for waxing causing swirls. Removal cloth should be relatively clean if dirty meaning you need to polish the car.

Wash with APC, dishwashing liquid, detergents as needed. Agitate a bit and better to let it rinse cleanly dry before reusing if need dry applicator.
Any dirt or contaminats left will scratch your car thus lots of US detailers "throw away" the once used applicator to not take the risk.
He he.. I think not in Malaysialah.. just clean it well, if in doubt, don't use it on paint. Cheers


He he.. besides professional Opticoat as suggested by bro KC, I'll suggest to treat the windscreen same as paint, ie don't let it too dirty until contaminants etch in.
Else, it will have watermarks in windscreen that may be even harder to remove than paint etching which can be removed by polish or compounds smile.gif
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pads should NEVER be dirty - yes he has a heart of a great detailer - cheers


watermarks in windscreen that may be even harder to remove than paint etching which can be removed by polish or compounds smile.gif

yes pld do not use acids or chemical - it will correct one & damaged another

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post Dec 21 2010, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Dec 21 2010, 05:44 PM)

hahahaha - i am still exporing but happpen to expore earlier
so i can talk more for now

pls start detailing yr own car

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Bro KC, everybody know how to wash a car, but i duno the right technique, what to use,how to apply.

1 of Malaysia popular chinese forum, nissan Slyphy paint defect, i put yr blog URL under her topic,if she contact you, maybe you can help her.

Cari chinese
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QUOTE(fbong @ Dec 21 2010, 09:48 PM)
Bro KC, everybody know how to wash a car, but i duno the right technique, what to use,how to apply.

1 of Malaysia popular chinese forum, nissan Slyphy paint defect, i put yr blog URL under her topic,if she contact you, maybe you can help her.

Cari chinese
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thanks buddy
I appreciate yr kindness

Cheers

I went to the blog & got lost - i bana na le
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post Dec 22 2010, 03:37 PM

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Thanks for the tips guys.
btw, any torch light that is effective in looking for swirls?

I dont have space for a halogen light sweat.gif

KC did mention that LED torches are pretty effective.

Anyone tried Eveready Dolphin lights?
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QUOTE(m|ng @ Dec 22 2010, 03:37 PM)
Thanks for the tips guys.
btw, any torch light that is effective in looking for swirls?

I dont have space for a halogen light  sweat.gif

KC did mention that LED torches are pretty effective.

Anyone tried Eveready Dolphin lights?
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I think u better go buy the cheap rechargeable china made led torch light it can help u look for the hologram more easily, anyway this is just my opinion and it works for me.

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post Dec 22 2010, 08:54 PM

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Was shopping in tesco for my groceries and stumbled upon a lot of torches. Jeez I didnt even know they have so many these days. The china Rechargeable ones start from $20-$50? lol.

Anyway I want some opinions before I get.

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