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 Sep 12 2008, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(tsd @ Sep 12 2008, 04:14 PM) RM60K is consider big for most of us, how many of us are willing to put RM60K into a counter that is battered so badly in the recent days and in such a bearish market. Unless someone wants to play contra, but who will play contra in such a bearish market. Surely this is done by a bigger player with some intentions to make money in the near future. Big player per transaction is talking about million ringgit AT least   |
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Sep 12 2008, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Sep 12 2008, 08:41 PM) Big player per transaction is talking about million ringgit AT least this RM60K in one transaction is definately not from small player ( unless for contra purpose, in this case... very unlikely contra play cos market is too bearish ), it is from a big player. They dont buy million at one go, probably wont be that much seller... they are nibbling ( accumulating ) the shares now... buying in batches, RM60K is a sign they are in the market. Next monday lets see if they are still there... very soon they will be more aggressive to push up the shares.This post has been edited by tsd: Sep 12 2008, 09:39 PM |
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Sep 17 2008, 12:03 PM
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Hi Hi, the listing of Sino Hua An in Msia is because of Antah's Group restructuring exercise previously?
During Antah's troubled times, they bought PIPO Group in China, which is the ones doing the Coke/Steel business. Seems to be bottoming soon? QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 4 2008, 09:07 PM) One question always remain on my head when seeing this counter, why they want to list in KLSE in the first place? Most people already know they won't get good premium on listing in KLSE compared to SG or HK or even China market itself. As Huaan core business is in China, not in Malaysia as far as I concern. For Malaysia company, yes, they have no choice but only in KLSE, but for Huaan, it is not the case, they can opt elsewhere that is more liquid and bigger market. It is relative new company, so what the company policy on dividend not yet known, hard to judge. |
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Sep 17 2008, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Sep 17 2008, 12:03 PM) Hi Hi, the listing of Sino Hua An in Msia is because of Antah's Group restructuring exercise previously? Yes, we knew Huaan is listed through backdoor listing of acquiring Antah. During Antah's troubled times, they bought PIPO Group in China, which is the ones doing the Coke/Steel business. Seems to be bottoming soon? The question is that why they choose KLSE or Antah for listing purposes. There are others way or other bourses they can list it as well which they can easily chalk up more premium compared to KLSE which we knew in the first place won't be good. Consider that its business operation is not in Malaysia either. |
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Sep 18 2008, 09:49 AM
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Seems like everyone who has Hua An's been dumping their shares like there's no tomorrow.
Any ideas when they'll do their secondary listing? It'll drop below 25 cents in a week if this goes on. |
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Sep 18 2008, 12:34 PM
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take a rest now..more to see after 2.30pm today |
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Oct 7 2008, 09:06 AM
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Seems undervalue... Just can't figure out why a net cash company end up in such position
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Oct 22 2008, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Oct 7 2008, 09:06 AM) Seems undervalue... Just can't figure out why a net cash company end up in such position Why, you bought a lot ? Dividend yield is at 8% now, though only 2.2 sen per share.Net Asset per share is 71sen. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2008, 04:55 PM |
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Oct 22 2008, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 22 2008, 03:44 PM) Why, you bought a lot ? Dividend yield is at 8% now, though only 2.2 sen per share. Nope, only a bit. I thought it was 4.55 cents? |
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Oct 22 2008, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 22 2008, 04:44 PM) Why, you bought a lot ? Dividend yield is at 8% now, though only 2.2 sen per share. You dare to enter china related stock?  |
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Oct 22 2008, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Oct 22 2008, 03:57 PM) You dare to enter china related stock? coking coal cannot be consume by human, no problem...  |
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Oct 22 2008, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Oct 22 2008, 03:57 PM) You dare to enter china related stock? So long it is not food related. Infrastructure and building industries only. Accounts too good to be true ? Added on October 22, 2008, 4:05 pm QUOTE(htt @ Oct 22 2008, 03:56 PM) Nope, only a bit. I thought it was 4.55 cents? 4.55% ,but for 50sen share divide by 2.This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2008, 04:05 PM |
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Oct 22 2008, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 22 2008, 05:01 PM) So long it is not food related. Besides the GDP also decreased....to 8% only. I more concern on the slowing down on China economy. The way china man do business really make me Infrastructure and building industries only. Accounts too good to be true ? Every thing can be fake one....Pau - paper box Milk - melamine Egg - fake one also  What else? financial report can also be fake one mar This post has been edited by darkknight81: Oct 22 2008, 04:11 PM |
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Oct 22 2008, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Oct 22 2008, 04:06 PM) Besides the GDP also decreased....to 8% only. I more concern on the slowing down on China economy. Which means China has to jump start the economy. Steel is still in demands. Government would not allow such ( STEEL ) industries to fall. Long term impact on local economy. Steel Caters only to China, not exporting to US markets. China 's problem is inflation. If oil drops, then better still. Added on October 22, 2008, 4:21 pm QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Oct 22 2008, 04:06 PM) Besides the GDP also decreased....to 8% only. I more concern on the slowing down on China economy. The way china man do business really make me Who knows , maybe YTL Power is buying up power plants in China. Every thing can be fake one....Pau - paper box Milk - melamine Egg - fake one also What else? financial report can also be fake one mar This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2008, 04:21 PM |
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Oct 22 2008, 04:57 PM
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Their auditor Deloitte leh... Not kucing kurau one... But again, AA also can went down, nothing is impossible.
Just AA when down because of Enron (a company which was thousands time bigger than Hua An ) |
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Oct 22 2008, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Oct 22 2008, 04:57 PM) Their auditor Deloitte leh... Not kucing kurau one... But again, AA also can went down, nothing is impossible. It Is a long term value buy. profit could drop by 50% . Just AA when down because of Enron (a company which was thousands time bigger than Hua An )Net cash working capital is 23 sen, where share price is 26sen. |
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Oct 22 2008, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 22 2008, 05:13 PM) It Is a long term value buy. profit could drop by 50% . Haha... that's why I buy... like placing a bet... a safer bet than Q and buy toto/4D/Big Sweep... Net cash working capital is 23 sen, where share price is 26sen.  But 3Q result not out yet, don't know how is the impact from Beijing Olympic...  This post has been edited by htt: Oct 22 2008, 05:19 PM |
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Oct 22 2008, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Oct 22 2008, 05:17 PM) Haha... that's why I buy... like placing a bet... a safer bet than Q and buy toto/4D/Big Sweep... Share prices could have factored in " not so good results" in coming Qs.But 3Q result not out yet, don't know how is the impact from Beijing Olympic... Must have the mean to average down if share price falls further ( worst case scenario ). But not likely that this stock goes bust. On the plus side, Huaan is committed to pay dividend of 10sen per share. that could translate to better share prices in the long term. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2008, 05:45 PM |
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Oct 22 2008, 08:37 PM
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<<Who knows , maybe YTL Power is buying up power plants in China.>>
Then i will sell off my holding Really fade up with china .  They can do any thing becos of money This post has been edited by darkknight81: Oct 22 2008, 08:37 PM |
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Oct 22 2008, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Oct 22 2008, 08:37 PM) <<Who knows , maybe YTL Power is buying up power plants in China.>> In investments, you have to filter the goods from the bads.Then i will sell off my holding Really fade up with china . They can do any thing becos of money You cannot say that you do not like the local politic , so do not invest in Malaysia. It could be at your own loss ( of opportunity ). This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2008, 08:49 PM |
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