HUAAN (2739), All about huaan post here
HUAAN (2739), All about huaan post here
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Oct 7 2008, 09:06 AM
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Seems undervalue... Just can't figure out why a net cash company end up in such position
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Oct 22 2008, 03:56 PM
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Oct 22 2008, 03:58 PM
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Oct 22 2008, 04:57 PM
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Their auditor Deloitte leh... Not kucing kurau one... But again, AA also can went down, nothing is impossible.
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Oct 22 2008, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 22 2008, 05:13 PM) It Is a long term value buy. profit could drop by 50% . Haha... that's why I buy... like placing a bet... a safer bet than Q and buy toto/4D/Big Sweep... Net cash working capital is 23 sen, where share price is 26sen. But 3Q result not out yet, don't know how is the impact from Beijing Olympic... This post has been edited by htt: Oct 22 2008, 05:19 PM |
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Oct 23 2008, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Oct 22 2008, 08:56 PM) Yup. But in business world trust is very important. What china ppl doing will make investor and consumer loss confidence against their product. I beliv no one will dare to drink china dairy product anymore..."It is hard for you to get a second kidney" at least ppl will think like this..How about the can food? Ppl will think twice before buying too... They are spoiling their reputation. Once pppl loss confidence against you.. it is very hard to gain back the trust again. Out of topic leh... Don't talk about China-Japan... too heavy...But one thing Hua An actually can hope for is for the authority to lift the export duty, immediately spur up demand... |
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Oct 23 2008, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 23 2008, 09:38 AM) Well, in view of not so recent major earthquakes in China, China still needs the Steel to rebuild their cities. Don't think the steel requirement for the rebuilding is very high, the area is remote and relatively underdeveloped. Steel shall be over supply in coming quarters... Net cash/ share is 6.68 cents, and price erosion couple with raw material price erosion, stable outlook and hope for surprise... 24 cents good entry point... promising the financial statement authenticate... And China is progressively developing its infrastructures, where steel is still needed. Their car industry is at an infant stage, mainly for the locals. If they are able to export, then more steel is needed. NTA is about 71sen, dividend policy is 10sen per share. net cash working capital is 23sen per share. Only can see result in long term. But at 25sen , it is better than buying warrants ( not comparing apple to apple ). Bottom line, judge your own. |
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Oct 23 2008, 10:21 AM
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Oct 23 2008, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 23 2008, 10:30 AM) 500 Lots is only 50 lots last time. Short term speculation might can get some at 0.24, long term one might prefer to wait until their 3Q result out... Some of the company announce their result relatively early if their result is good; if they only announce it when near to the 2 months deadline... chances are... I think " sapu " should be used for 5000 lots and above. At least, price could move up 1 to 2 sen. |
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Oct 23 2008, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Oct 23 2008, 11:42 AM) They're currently supplying their cokes locally in the chinese market only right? With the added capacity, they'll be able to export it overseas also if local consumption is low? I think China government raised the tax to curb export of cokes, that's mean to ensure sufficient supply for local steel mills, but now if the local demand is no longer there, then that will be rational to remove the tax.So, can it be said that 100% of their new production capacity will be sold? Seeming from their increase of inventory (that can be contributed by price increase of raw material also), don't think they actually sold all their product, might need 3Q FS to confirm. But the cashflow remain ok for 1H'08. |
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Oct 24 2008, 11:07 AM
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Oct 26 2008, 03:39 PM
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Think only can decide after they published their 3Q result...
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Oct 27 2008, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 26 2008, 06:32 PM) In the present economic situation , it is better to think of the worst case scenario, that it could suffer losses too. Don't think the company can collapse so fast... Maybe it collapses too. The risk you may have to take when buying Huaan. Just my 2sen. Also please note that company was generating quite some cash during first 2Q with ongoing expansion. Beaten down to 21.5 cents now, look like real bargain, too back I enter too early |
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Oct 27 2008, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(klmc @ Oct 27 2008, 12:08 PM) the NS royal family holdings in Huaan seems to be hit by margin calls Not that much, they all in the list because they are shareholders of the holding company.http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...23?OpenDocument and loads of other YMAM tunku's tunku's disposal of huann shares. So u know la ah ... will fall somemore ... But that's not a good sign anyway. NS royal's company all not doing very well... hai... |
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Oct 28 2008, 08:40 AM
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Oct 28 2008, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(klmc @ Oct 28 2008, 08:50 AM) 'not that much' ? Total margin call is 850,000+1,879,000+400,000=3,129,000 share.====24/10/2008 Changes in Sub. S-hldr's Int. (29B) - Y.A.M. Tunku Dato’ Seri Nadzaruddin Ibni Tuanku Ja’afar 21/10/2008 850,000 17/10/2008 1,879,000 20/10/2008 400,000 ====24/10/2008 Changes in Sub. S-hldr's Int. (29B) - Y.A.M. Tunku Jawahir Bt. Tuanku Ja’afar 21/10/2008 850,000 17/10/2008 1,879,000 20/10/2008 400,000 ====24/10/2008 Changes in Sub. S-hldr's Int. (29B) - Y.A.M. Tunku Dara Tunku Tan Sri Naquiah bte Tuanku Ja’afar 21/10/2008 850,000 17/10/2008 1,879,000 20/10/2008 400,000 ====24/10/2008 Changes in Sub. S-hldr's Int. (29B) - Y.A.M. Tunku Tan Sri Imran Ibni Tuanku Ja'afar 21/10/2008 850,000 17/10/2008 1,879,000 20/10/2008 400,000 ====24/10/2008 Changes in Sub. S-hldr's Int. (29B) - Y.A.M. Tunku Irinah binti Tuanku Ja’afar 21/10/2008 850,000 17/10/2008 1,879,000 20/10/2008 400,000 ====24/10/2008 Changes in Sub. S-hldr's Int. (29B) - Y.M. Tunku Nurul Hayati Binti Tunku Bahador 21/10/2008 850,000 17/10/2008 1,879,000 20/10/2008 400,000 ====24/10/2008 Changes in Sub. S-hldr's Int. (29B) - Y.A.M. Tunku Naquiyuddin Ibni Tuanku Ja'afar 21/10/2008 850,000 21/10/2008 850,000 17/10/2008 1,879,000 20/10/2008 400,000 ====24/10/2008 Changes in Sub. S-hldr's Int. (29B) - Y.M. Tunku Mohamed Alauddin Tunku Naquiyuddin 21/10/2008 850,000 17/10/2008 1,879,000 20/10/2008 400,000 Notice that the seling is similar in lots .... looks like margin calls ... so do i expect more similar forced selling by this bunch if huaan drops more ? Their names all there because they are co-shareholder of the holding company (duplicate in laymen terms). |
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Oct 28 2008, 09:48 AM
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Oct 28 2008, 10:19 AM
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Oct 28 2008, 10:30 AM
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Oct 29 2008, 08:27 AM
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