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post Oct 17 2008, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 17 2008, 02:46 PM)
yes it does available. Like wira they can use Evo 2 or 3 rear windscreen with wiper. If there's shop able to mod then i willing to drill hole on my windscreen.
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QUOTE(lordragos @ Oct 17 2008, 04:30 PM)
I also want to have a rear wiper install to my waja very leceh la every time raining can't see at the back especially if want to reverse.. hate using the de-mist... err what you called the button besides the hazard signal one..? very slow to clear off...
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post Oct 18 2008, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(jackal400 @ Oct 17 2008, 06:20 PM)
good evening to all the cps owners at here  wave.gif

My dad is interested in gettin a waja cps (AT). I wonder if there's any special promo goin on nowadays?? Thx for sharing.  smile.gif
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Ask him to get the MT ver instead. More 'fun'... brows.gif

QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 17 2008, 09:31 PM)
that's for cosmetic upgrade only. hahaha
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But when you put rear skirting, it will not be visible anymore. laugh.gif

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 17 2008, 10:19 PM)
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LOL....sold at brothers...so just grab it..that joker said can improve handling.... doh.gif

but anyway.....just installed ultraracing strut bar.. 3point front bar and 3point rear bar....so that can improve cornering right?....haven test out coz raining earlier..lol... sweat.gif
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IMHO, changing suspension give the most bang for the buck. nod.gif
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post Oct 18 2008, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 18 2008, 12:16 AM)
nope...ar..around RM150-RM300...with different kinds of bars from front to back....i installed at automotive genesis...with lifetime warrantty....lol..
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Last time my ride also got UR strut bar 3 point installed. Nice effect on handling. But the design are too dull compared to others such as zenden and hotbits.
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post Oct 18 2008, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(jackal400 @ Oct 18 2008, 12:45 AM)
well...MT indeed is fun n how i wish that i can hentam the engine kao kao  brows.gif However, my dad prefers to a more relaxing type of driving  smile.gif Btw, one more ques that i would like to ask.... Do they accept any trade - in?? N do they provide us high value of trade - in?? Sry for my noobish ques  sweat.gif
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Usually they will accept trade-in.
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post Oct 18 2008, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 18 2008, 01:03 AM)
plain white colour rite?....hows the handling on highway and cornering?...alot of improvement?..me haven try..lol....last time without UR, sharp corner 60km....mayb now can try 80km...?? and for those nkve highway exit/enter...good for corner..lol
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Quite good. But that time my car already on sport suspension. nod.gif

QUOTE(squareballs @ Oct 18 2008, 01:08 AM)
Want ask, fender bars, will reduce annoying sound from fender? Noob question biggrin.gif
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There's someone in this forum who already put all those bar... but I forgot who. doh.gif
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post Oct 18 2008, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Oct 18 2008, 08:28 PM)
Just remove the cat-con.. And install s-flow muffler...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

So loud lah my exhaust.. Want to put the bullet, but the foreman said, try this set up first, if too loud come again and add bullet. Still not pay for the muffler and the cat-con by pass thing...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

So best lah 'tarik'.. More pick up. People around staring at traffic light.. Mean so loud lah ekk.. Hehhehe... Before this fc is 10L/1000km.. But after ride around, already 9.5L/100km... Not reset the fc, just check it..
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Told you the sound will be louder. But the improvement is thumbup.gif

You've change to what brand s-flow? Can give picture? Sound should not be that loud compared with the stock muffler rite?
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post Oct 19 2008, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Oct 19 2008, 12:40 AM)
Advice,
i) do both extractor and decat with bullet,
ii) Extractor first
iii) Decat with bullet
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You cannot change extractor without de-cat for Campro. nod.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 19 2008, 01:01 PM)
hey guys wana ask when around 1100rpm-2000rpm...sometimes got rough sound (like big exhaust sound/lorry sound) and pedal abit vibration...but slam the front bonnet hard no sound...but after like crusing at speed at 80/90km long time..the sound is back...or high revving also do produce the rough sound...   

it sound like not smooth..after 2000rpm..the sound back to normal like what other cars sounded.....slam the bonnet no sound d.. 

try to send 2 S.C dont know the problem...cant solve...
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My car don't have this problem.. hmm.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 19 2008, 02:18 PM)
if dun have "improve" brand then look for Top Cat as 2nd choice. Remember to look for straight flow for lesser restriction.
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For me loud sound doesn't matter much. just it need to be bassy. nod.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Oct 19 2008, 03:12 PM)
Already install bullet.. Brand motola also... Not really straight one, swirl.. Good sound already, not too loud.. Sound like a man, not as stock sound... Already test performance  tongue.gif ... 4th gear, 6.5k rpm, manage to get 170km/j on speedometer, and 160km/j on gps... Got road block at the end of "test track" Thanks god all of them sembang2 under the tree.. No one at the middle of the road... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  Current setup still have good pickup... Same as before put bullet....  biggrin.gif Really satisfied for now.... Now look for another thing to mod.. Heheheh... brows.gif Any suggestion (poison)...??

p/s: Can't wait to do 3rd service, will install iridium spark plug...
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Oct 19 2008, 03:46 PM)
RM410... (Remove cat-con, bullet and s-flow muffler)... "Berbaloi"??.... biggrin.gif


Added on October 19, 2008, 7:35 pmLCP (Light weight crank pulley) already available for cps..  brows.gif  brows.gif  What pro and con this LCP in case of cps? As i know, will get better pickup, but suffer top end. But, still people claim can get 200km/j... I think already discuss this thing here, but want to make it more clear.. As it will be my next mod project... cool2.gif

Also about ACP (Adjustable cam pulley)..? How good ACP is..? How many power it can give?

What is HIGH CAM people talk about?? Always ask about how many degree that thing..  rclxub.gif
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Things to consider,
ICE - HU, amp, sub, speaker, DVD player, touch screen LCD, etc
Power - Spark plug, LCP, open pod air filter, engine management, LSD, short shifter,carbon fiber hood etc...
Handling - Fully adjustable suspension, all those bars, rollcage (?), sports tyres, etc..
Cosmetic - bodykits

anything else to add... brows.gif laugh.gif

LCP is only worth it when you have done other mod and still not satisfied with the power as it quite expensive for the hp gains.

ACP will let you adjust your power, whether pick up or top speed depend on your driving preference. No power increase, unless you get the lightweight one.

Hi-Cam, not available for CPS (yet). By using a higher cam you get more power at high rpm but less in low rpm, thats why CPS got two lobe which change with engine speed. Thus, theoretically you get the best of both world.
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post Oct 19 2008, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 19 2008, 08:22 PM)
RM410 is consider reasonable, as i remember when i brought Top Cat s-flow for my gen2 it cost me RM320.

Alot of ppl claimed will lost top speed with LCP, but how on earth that LCP has to do with speed? Engine not depends on the momentum of LCP to move the piston and crank shaft, the combustion does. Correct? 1 thing is LCP won't give extra horsie, it's only lightened the crank shaft load. Thefore u'll feel better pickup. We have tested and confirmed LCP did not affect top speed.

ACP won't give extra horsie either, like sphiroth said it only shift our engine power band even it's lightened materials.

High cam is always refer to the degree of cam shaft, people said 268 (26.8 degree), 272 (27.2 degree), 278 (27.2 Degree) is the lobe degree. Higher degree means longer valve opening for intake and exhaust.

btw, if u plan to get high cam then a piggyback is a must to alter the A/F ratio. Else you won't enjoy much performance from high cam alone.
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S-flow muffler is more expensive than straight flow. Here (BP), the price varies between 400 to 550.
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post Oct 19 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 19 2008, 08:32 PM)
where is BP?
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QUOTE(pearjar @ Oct 19 2008, 09:11 PM)
So LCP will only improve pickup?? Nothing to do with top end speed.. Ok then, will consider it.. ACP maybe not necessary..??

What is LSD?? Hehehhe.. tongue.gif

Thanks zen for high cam explanation... Not in my mind to have it.. Just gain some knowledge.. biggrin.gif
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LCP will increase pick up. Been there, done that. But for a 600+ upgrade, the increase is just too little (for me la).

QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 19 2008, 09:21 PM)
yes, LCP will improve pickup in return u'll get a little vibration.

LSD = Limited Slip Differential, use for equally distribute the torque to the wheels. y? wanna install 1?
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Because everything else he already upgraded, maybe should install LSD for more pick up and power while cornering. laugh.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Oct 19 2008, 10:49 PM)
Read from wikipedia.. LSD is too complex thing.. Hehehe...
Hehe.. No lah...

What in my mind now is changing the brake pad to better one. EBC brand seem good, but it will eat the disk if not mistaken.. Someone promote Trestor and bendix metal king... But mintex and ferodo zero also good one.. Hem... rclxub.gif
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Straightaway change to Brembo brake system ler. thumbup.gif brows.gif

BTW, just read my warranty book and it stated exhaust warranty are just 1 year (or 25k km). Upgrade anyone? brows.gif
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post Oct 20 2008, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 20 2008, 09:00 AM)
hey your expectation too high la...hahaha


Added on October 20, 2008, 9:02 am

metal king porduce alot of dust la and worn out ur disc very fast, but the grip is good ler. Try Trestor la....recomended by my forum buddy as he use it for track...i'm going to try that as well. I think for front is RM180.
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That time already done full intake and exhaust mod. Didn't want to mod the internal (hi-cam), so went for LCP upgrade.
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 20 2008, 09:19 AM)
btw, where is ur 02 sensor located?
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That time don't have O2 sensor, carbie engine.

Now O2 is located at the 3rd exhaust pipe (counting from left to right)
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 20 2008, 10:12 AM)
did u consider to move it to Y joint (or 2-1) area? More accurate A/F reading.
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I don't think its worth the effort. laugh.gif

BTW, just back from my 20k km service. Cost me RM350 (engine oil, brake oil, plug, throttle body service, brake service, radiator service). Engine feels more poweful now brows.gif

Ask the foreman while he's tuning my engine using the PDT device, what sort of limiter he can remove. He said only the rev cut and adjust idle rpm. But for AT he can adjust the shifting point.
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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Oct 20 2008, 02:11 PM)
so, did u asked him to remove anything from your ECU?
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No. For MT, only the rev cut (at 7.2k rpm) can be removed. Or can increase the idle rpm. If AT, can adjust the shift point.

Oh yeah, the PDT can also calculate the fuel you use (but in a unit that I'm not familiar with) and its 28. He said that it almost the same for Wira 1.5 (which is quite low) when Gen.2 is 42.

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Oct 20 2008, 03:10 PM)
bro...me another 500km will reach 20k,so do i need to to wut u do ?(engine oil, brake oil, plug, throttle body service, brake service, radiator service).
if increase idle rpm means increase fuel?? hmm.gif
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I think it will be the same. Unless you need to replace the brake pad or other.. nod.gif

Increase idle rpm will give you more power but at the expense of higher FC.
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Time for a little poisoning brows.gif

Extractor
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K&N Filter
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And for those who want to smoked the headlight, can consider this two tone scheme.
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Also, guess what the function of the box mark with the blue colourAttached Image

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post Oct 20 2008, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Oct 20 2008, 05:28 PM)
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wah your o2 sensor is at the wrong position leh....

i mean not wrong la but the position it is in now, it will be kinda inaccurate leh
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If want really accurate, have to put at the 2-1 junction, instead of just one pipe. But then, the distance itself will make it inaccurate also. Wanna accurate, stick with standard. laugh.gif

QUOTE(eastwest @ Oct 20 2008, 05:29 PM)
This is not "little" tongue.gif  laugh.gif  The blue box? I guess it is...dont know la  doh.gif

BTW, what do you mean by shifting point? for what purpose?
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For reserved air when CPS engage. brows.gif

So your gear will shift at higher rpm (redline) when doing full throttle. brows.gif

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