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Household [Home Appliances] Washing Machine
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SUSsupersound
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Oct 16 2014, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Oct 16 2014, 02:09 PM) Get 10-12KG will be more practical, 7.5KG won't able to wash big stuffs(bed sheet). Still you have to decide your self, what is the typical load you will be doing daily. BTW, try Hitachi if possible.
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OneMoreDay
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Oct 16 2014, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 16 2014, 12:20 PM) Get 1 and try la. But very strange. So far I have never see a household in japan that using FL. All using TL. I've seen front loaders in Japanese households. But top loaders are more common.
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akmalarif
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Oct 16 2014, 04:33 PM
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Any take on Toshiba TL? specifically model AW-DC1300WM Been eyeing this @ Jintex. Very reasonable price. But not sure about the quality offered by Toshiba. Still undecided whether to go for Kimchi or Japs.
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wdarke
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Oct 16 2014, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(OneMoreDay @ Oct 16 2014, 02:31 PM) I've seen front loaders in Japanese households. But top loaders are more common. Japanese love their top loaders. Front loaders are more an European thing.
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silver88
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Oct 16 2014, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 14 2014, 12:56 PM) Ya, depends on dwelling configuration and lifestyle which I think is main influence. If reliant on laundromat, why bother? If always reliant on dryer due to lack of drying area, a low energy model justifies in the long term. If got dry area and needs occasional, probably longer roi payback. It's either pay low for appliance and pay high for electricity or vice versa because the constant usage will determine what bracket the electricity bill will be rated. But hard to gauge if machine reliable or not. Bro, wanna ask u got experience about the dryer will make the cloth smaller size.....and depend on cloth material, some will and some not....
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halcyon27
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Oct 16 2014, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 16 2014, 06:24 PM) Bro, wanna ask u got experience about the dryer will make the cloth smaller size.....and depend on cloth material, some will and some not.... Bro, I can't answer that one as I don't yet own a dryer. Had been thinking about it but current place doesn't need one as I have own drying area and extractor fan.
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wdarke
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Oct 16 2014, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 16 2014, 06:24 PM) Bro, wanna ask u got experience about the dryer will make the cloth smaller size.....and depend on cloth material, some will and some not.... You should always follow the laundry symbols on the label. http://www.textileaffairs.com/c-common.htm
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bengang14
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Oct 16 2014, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 16 2014, 06:24 PM) Bro, wanna ask u got experience about the dryer will make the cloth smaller size.....and depend on cloth material, some will and some not.... i have a washer-dryer by Electrolux. so far only one of my pants shrunk..lycra material
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halcyon27
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Oct 16 2014, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 16 2014, 12:20 PM) Get 1 and try la. But very strange. So far I have never see a household in japan that using FL. All using TL. I would have love to but my wife still likes the Hitachi. Wish list for the next 6-8 years. QUOTE(OneMoreDay @ Oct 16 2014, 02:31 PM) I've seen front loaders in Japanese households. But top loaders are more common. LOL, ya agree. It's more of the expats from Europe and Australia who when buying a washer or replacing it if there's not one who'll opt for FL if within budget and can spec within moving limits ie can maneuver around the narrowest space ie staircase and also sit on top of the WM 'bread pan'. The ones from US depends if they prefer FL. Some are more accustomed to TL. One more review from Jap user. This post has been edited by halcyon27: Oct 16 2014, 07:23 PM
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silver88
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Oct 16 2014, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(wdarke @ Oct 16 2014, 06:38 PM) You should always follow the laundry symbols on the label. http://www.textileaffairs.com/c-common.htmThanks bro. But some cloth no have the symbols.....try using dryer at my aunty house, result my few shirt need to pass to my 12 years old cousin....
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ozak
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Oct 16 2014, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(OneMoreDay @ Oct 16 2014, 02:31 PM) I've seen front loaders in Japanese households. But top loaders are more common. Go to some colleague home in Japan. Not 1 using FL. Even stay in hotel or domitory, all provide TL type.
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OneMoreDay
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Oct 16 2014, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 16 2014, 06:53 PM) I would have love to but my wife still likes the Hitachi. Wish list for the next 6-8 years. LOL, ya agree. It's more of the expats from Europe and Australia who when buying a washer or replacing it if there's not one who'll opt for FL if within budget and can spec within moving limits ie can maneuver around the narrowest space ie staircase and also sit on top of the WM 'bread pan'. The ones from US depends if they prefer FL. Some are more accustomed to TL. One more review from Jap user. Thanks for the link. The front loaders I've seen in Japanese homes are found in homes with space constraints. It's possible these are dryer/washer combos since I keep seeing them in kitchens.
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dayalan86
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Oct 16 2014, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 15 2014, 07:39 PM) the Panasonic spec says uses load sensor for imbalance. I don't know if it implies passive sensing with control loop feedback to vary spin speed. This could be an eye opener as the LG (TrueBalance), Samsung (VRT) and Hitachi (4-ply load balancer) uses an active load balancing mechanism. From what I see and experience from my previous front loader, this machine has a very poor distribution cycle just prior to start spinning and I do not see anywhere in the brochure on active load balancing for this machine unlike Hitachi or Samsung. The only good thing is that this machine is over engineered to the effect that the PCB board is all by itself in a casing like a CPU and is isolated from dampness etc, on the downside, if something breaks down, it will be a nightmare to repair it. Even to reach the door latch from the top of the machine, with the top cover open can be a challenge.
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ozak
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Oct 16 2014, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 16 2014, 06:24 PM) Bro, wanna ask u got experience about the dryer will make the cloth smaller size.....and depend on cloth material, some will and some not.... Always check the label of the shirt. Some will change shape or shrink if too hot. Very common problem for me. Cause I don't care much. Just throw everything in. Some I know, I will use low temp mode to dry.
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SUSsupersound
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Oct 16 2014, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(akmalarif @ Oct 16 2014, 04:33 PM) Any take on Toshiba TL? specifically model AW-DC1300WM Been eyeing this @ Jintex. Very reasonable price. But not sure about the quality offered by Toshiba. Still undecided whether to go for Kimchi or Japs.  Kimchi recent track record already proven : to be failed fast. QUOTE(wdarke @ Oct 16 2014, 06:09 PM) Japanese love their top loaders. Front loaders are more an European thing. Japanese are known to be very efficient on doing everything.
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silver88
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Oct 16 2014, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 16 2014, 07:38 PM) Always check the label of the shirt. Some will change shape or shrink if too hot. Very common problem for me. Cause I don't care much. Just throw everything in. Some I know, I will use low temp mode to dry. Throw everything is good......got reason for keep fit our body
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SUSkimsim
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Oct 16 2014, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 16 2014, 09:25 PM) Kimchi recent track record already proven : to be failed fast. Japanese are known to be very efficient on doing everything. Kimchi or Japs for me all the same performance, except you bough the lower end model to force it like a man works horse. Why? lower end dun have vibration n reduction and also inverter motor, nothing much can be compare from the end user.
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halcyon27
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Oct 17 2014, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(OneMoreDay @ Oct 16 2014, 07:35 PM) Thanks for the link. The front loaders I've seen in Japanese homes are found in homes with space constraints. It's possible these are dryer/washer combos since I keep seeing them in kitchens. That's correct. These are washer/dryer combos.
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halcyon27
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Oct 17 2014, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Oct 16 2014, 07:37 PM) From what I see and experience from my previous front loader, this machine has a very poor distribution cycle just prior to start spinning and I do not see anywhere in the brochure on active load balancing for this machine unlike Hitachi or Samsung. The only good thing is that this machine is over engineered to the effect that the PCB board is all by itself in a casing like a CPU and is isolated from dampness etc, on the downside, if something breaks down, it will be a nightmare to repair it. Even to reach the door latch from the top of the machine, with the top cover open can be a challenge. Wow, good to know, at least that's a saving grace and well thought out re safeguard against humidity. What I tend to do is after every wash is to leave the door wide open for it to air the inside. Also let the extractor fan run a bit if it's quite damp.
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dayalan86
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Oct 17 2014, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 17 2014, 03:34 PM) Wow, good to know, at least that's a saving grace and well thought out re safeguard against humidity. What I tend to do is after every wash is to leave the door wide open for it to air the inside. Also let the extractor fan run a bit if it's quite damp. But if I had to do it again, would skip Panasonic and go for Hitachi or Samsung with regards to the load balance system. A machine that is designed to take 10kg load and not being able to live to that rating is a shame and misleading.
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