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post Mar 31 2014, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ricky300 @ Mar 31 2014, 09:40 PM)
Anyhow...thanks boss for telling me they do sell filter notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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I also know the price now, haha.
Lucky not yet buy another filter whistling.gif
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post Mar 31 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 31 2014, 10:19 PM)
I also know the price now, haha.
Lucky not yet buy another filter whistling.gif
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But depending on model though......Best way is to call them and ask for the price.
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post Apr 3 2014, 11:21 AM

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Btw for washer& dryer any model to recommend ?

Well actually im not the 1 do the laundry my mum did.My house use to have a top loader-5kg washer brand mitachi ..(local )


First of all i look through a few brand like samsung,toshiba,lg,electrolux

Cost vs time vs electricity vs water vs capacity vs friendly ??

Suggestions
1. my mum always say front loader if leaking whole house become a pool ??
2.how many kg i need to dry clean my queen sized comforter ?
-for this question is need to over 10kg i think i take to dobi better. cos i saw now min.7kg. cos 5kg is more then enough juz put in queen sized comforter cant move.
3.prefer is saving energy time and eco friendly ?

As i say switching from a top loader to a front loader +washer+dryer.
so need ur suggestion ??

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post Apr 3 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(mustmust009 @ Apr 3 2014, 11:21 AM)
Btw for washer& dryer any model to recommend ?

Well actually im not the 1 do the laundry my mum did.My house use to have a top loader-5kg washer brand mitachi ..(local )
First of all i look through a few brand like samsung,toshiba,lg,electrolux

Cost vs time vs electricity vs water vs capacity vs friendly ??

Suggestions
1. my mum always say front loader if leaking whole house become a pool ??
2.how many kg i need to dry clean my queen sized comforter ?
-for this question is need to over 10kg i think i take to dobi better. cos i saw now min.7kg. cos 5kg is more then enough juz put in queen sized comforter cant move.
3.prefer is saving energy time and eco friendly ?

As i say switching from a top loader to a front loader +washer+dryer.
so need ur suggestion ??
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Front loader save water, but need to buy special brand of detergent.
If you have kids... frond loader may be dangerous... always set child lock
1. Front loader nowadays quite reliable, no leaking despite using for 4 years
2. 8kg type should be ok
3. saving energy, not so sure... but front loader save water.
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Apr 3 2014, 10:28 PM)
Front loader save water, but need to buy special brand of detergent.
If you have kids... frond loader may be dangerous... always set child lock
1. Front loader nowadays quite reliable, no leaking despite using for 4 years
2. 8kg type should be ok
3. saving energy, not so sure... but front loader save water.
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Save energy TL beat FL but TL loses out on water saving. Here TL edge out by saving up to 70% of what TL use.

FL with Inverter Direct Drive (LG, Hitachi) saves electricity by up to half vs conventional motor.
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post Apr 4 2014, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Apr 3 2014, 11:59 PM)
Save energy TL beat FL but TL loses out on water saving. Here TL edge out by saving up to 70% of what TL use.

FL with Inverter Direct Drive (LG, Hitachi) saves electricity by up to half vs conventional motor.
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Since i wan a washer+dryer type. i dun think i can choose a TL .

Btw only LG or Hitachi got Inverter Direct Drive??
-other brand no inverter direct drive ???
inverter drive really can save energy ??wonder why electrolux no follow cos i hear electrolux is leader in washing
machine since im a kid (in malaysia)

So which does people would prefer LG or Hitachi?

In term of spare part , price and reliability and also eco friendly ??? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(mustmust009 @ Apr 4 2014, 08:33 AM)
Since i wan a washer+dryer type. i dun think i can choose a TL .

Btw only LG or Hitachi got Inverter Direct Drive??
-other brand no inverter direct drive ???
inverter drive really can save energy ??wonder why electrolux no follow cos i hear electrolux is leader in washing
machine since im a kid (in malaysia)

So which does people would prefer LG or Hitachi?

In term of spare part , price and reliability and also eco friendly ??? notworthy.gif
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Not sure, best is to go SENQ that kind of shop to compare each of them sided.
I believe other band should have inverter direct drive as well

Spare part no need to worry so much. Washing machine nowadays generay gives warranty up to 10 years.
Price is a major concern though.
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post Apr 5 2014, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(mustmust009 @ Apr 4 2014, 08:33 AM)
Since i wan a washer+dryer type. i dun think i can choose a TL .

Btw only LG or Hitachi got Inverter Direct Drive??
-other brand no inverter direct drive ???
inverter drive really can save energy ??wonder why electrolux no follow cos i hear electrolux is leader in washing
machine since im a kid (in malaysia)

So which does people would prefer LG or Hitachi?

In term of spare part , price and reliability and also eco friendly ??? notworthy.gif
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Inverter and direct drive two separate features. Inverter motor but not necessarily inverter direct drive.

Bosch newer models has quieter brushless dc motor (BLDC) that it touts to be quiter and -30% energy consuming. Electrolux 2012 models already have inverter but may not be direct drive esp the 10kg one.

I recommend and lean towards separate washer and dryer. No joke, wash load reduced to dryer capacity then dry takes a long long while 3-4 hours. If got other loads have to wait. If insisting of a combo, the LGWD-1279RDS7 17/9kg would be the one to go for large family loads at only 5.2l/kg as shown here

If you want efficient dryer, Panasonic 8kg and Electrolux 9kg uses 900W with heat pump condensing dryer vs 2700-2800W of condenser dryers. That can be off the same plug as the washer whereas if using the 2700W it has to be separately dedicated 13A if washer and dryer are used simultaneously. Boschalso has an 8kg condenser dryer that's quite energy saving.

Hitachi I can vouch its 42db during spin cycle relative to older conventional washers and definitely reduced my water usage per month. Also has tub clean function.

If you want to compare water usage and electricity usage look for it at either SG PUB or HK EMD energy and water labeling scheme site. This info convinced me to get the Hitachi 8kg front loader with inverter direct drive.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Apr 6 2014, 12:09 AM
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Apr 5 2014, 11:43 PM)
Inverter and direct drive two separate features. Inverter motor but not necessarily inverter direct drive.

Bosch newer models has quieter brushless dc motor (BLDC) that it touts to be quiter and -30% energy consuming. Electrolux 2012 models already have inverter but may not be direct drive esp the 10kg one.

I recommend and lean towards separate washer and dryer. No joke, wash load reduced to dryer capacity then dry takes a long long while 3-4 hours. If got other loads have to wait.

If you want efficient dryer, Panasonic 8kg and Electrolux 9kg uses 900W with heat pump condensing dryer vs 2700-2800W of condenser dryers. That can be off the same plug as the washer whereas if using the 2700W it has to be separately dedicated 13A if washer and dryer are used simultaneously. Boschalso has an 8kg condenser dryer that's quite energy saving.

Hitachi I can vouch its 42db during spin cycle relative to older conventional washers and definitely reduced my water usage per month. Also has tub clean function.

If you want to compare water usage and electricity usage look for it at either SG PUB or HK EMD energy and water labeling scheme site. This info convinced me to get the Hitachi 8kg front loader with inverter direct drive.
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Any brand when it is new do generate less noise. If a brand dare to boast around that after 7 years it is still quiet I'll buy it.
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 6 2014, 12:07 AM)
Any brand when it is new do generate less noise. If a brand dare to boast around that after 7 years it is still quiet I'll buy it.
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The LG Tromm direct drive washer dryer in a friend's place is still quiet after 6+ years.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Apr 6 2014, 12:12 AM
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post Apr 6 2014, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Apr 6 2014, 12:11 AM)
The LG Tromm direct drive washer dryer in a friend's place is still quiet after 6+ years.
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I said is the brand boasting on the box, not after buy. Some only use it once a blue moon and don't trash it like no tomorrow rclxms.gif
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post Apr 6 2014, 04:17 PM

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Thanks for all of the great comment.

Since hitachi consume less water and energy i think is my top brand to go.

Cos in malaysia price of water and electric gonna hike soon .

Since i need to folk up few k . prefer some to save some in the da future then .

Btw for hitachi BD-S5500 was new and BD-S1100

http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/index.php/wa...ne/#product_178

http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/index.php/wa...ne/#product_291

Both also 10.5 wash / dry 7.0kg .

The question is

1.wat is wind iron and steam iron ? rclxub.gif

2. auto self clean ? -can the washer last longer and clean some dirt ??? my now using top loader after 10year inside

look so dirty . all stain . shakehead.gif

3. flat inner wall hose ? - wat this have to do . rclxub.gif

This 3 function got in the model BD-S5500 . And for me BD-S1100 look more nice .

I mean the design is way better then the new model. doh.gif
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post Apr 6 2014, 04:42 PM

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I prefer top loader at any 1 time, for 10kg, it will be cheaper. Also, you can select the WM that can select water usage. Like now when I'm washing my luandries, washing with detergent I'll use lesser water while rinsing use more a bit. With this way, I'm saving 360l of water a month.
Also, I always wash at night and hang them over night, so the spinning time also reduce to minimum(1 minute only) thumbup.gif
So another 20 units of power saved.

This post has been edited by supersound: Apr 6 2014, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(mustmust009 @ Apr 6 2014, 04:17 PM)
Thanks for all of the great comment.

Since hitachi consume less water and energy i think is my top brand to go.

Cos in malaysia price of water and electric gonna hike soon .

Since i need to folk up few k . prefer some to save some in the da future then .

Btw for hitachi BD-S5500 was new and BD-S1100

http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/index.php/wa...ne/#product_178

http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/index.php/wa...ne/#product_291

Both also 10.5 wash / dry 7.0kg .

The question is

1.wat is wind iron and steam iron ? rclxub.gif

2. auto self clean ? -can the washer last longer and clean some dirt ??? my now using top loader after 10year inside

look so dirty . all stain . shakehead.gif

3. flat inner wall hose ? - wat this have to do . rclxub.gif

This 3 function got in the model BD-S5500 . And for me BD-S1100 look more nice .

I mean the design is way better then the new model.  doh.gif
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LG 17/9kg washer dryer FL now leads in the water consumption with their. Check SG PUBS and see what I mean.

Big Drum Slim 5500 is newer and slimmer at 60cm wide and 64cm deep compared to BD-S1100 at 73cm wide but 55cm deep. The BD-S5500 can spin up to 2880 rpm - perhaps for tub clean rather than clothes spin. The high speed spin is to dislodge mould in the outer tub.

BUT BUT BUT....
1. All wash then dry cycle takes at least 3-4 hours sometimes to complete at the lowest load number. Check the manuals. For example a 13/7kg LG washer dryer states the dry cycle takes at least up tp 150minutes.
2. The BD-S5500/S1100 don't have a built-in (impeller) pump. They discharge water by gravity like TL and cannot exceed 10cm above the bottom of the washing machine.

Wind iron and steam iron like Dyson or Mitsubishi hand dryer effect on clothes to make it less crumply and easier to iron.

Auto self clean is tub cleaning function after every wash. Defaulted to run with but can be turned off. If turned on, after clothes is remove, WM will instruct door to be closed to continue in tub cleaning phase.

Most outlet hose is designed helically wound rib (kedut kedut) - they claim this harbours mould. The smooth ribless inner tube design should be less conducive to mould build up.

Like I mentioned, don't let the high load rating of washing and drying allure you. In all practicality, more times than not it's better to separate loads to wash and dry. Electricity is not cheap also. Better to go for Panasonic heat pump dryer if it needs be. Total price of Hitachi BD-W85SV and Panasonic NH-P80G2 dryer should not exceed MYR7000 or much less if you buy display units or have better contact who can get cheaper. Get a stacking kit or source for home laundry speacilists that supply dryer stacking kits. BD-S5500 costs MYR7888 vs the 5499 of the LG 17/9, so consider wisely and both don't give the advantage of simultaneous wash and dry that the Hitachi and Panasonic dryer afford you from a single 13A plug.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Apr 6 2014, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 6 2014, 04:42 PM)
I prefer top loader at any 1 time, for 10kg, it will be cheaper. Also, you can select the WM that can select water usage. Like now when I'm washing my luandries, washing with detergent I'll use lesser water while rinsing use more a bit. With this way, I'm saving 360l of water a month.
Also, I always wash at night and hang them over night, so the spinning time also reduce to minimum(1 minute only) thumbup.gif
So another 20 units of power saved.
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Yes, and the hard facts bear out at HK EMD voluntary labeling scheme for washing machines. Although a TL uses 4 times the amount of water per load vs FL, a conventional motor FL uses 10 times more electricity vs a TL and 5 times vs a inverter direct drive. If I were to choose a TL, Hitachi's would be good since it also incorporates tub cleaning function to reduce mould build up.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Apr 6 2014, 11:18 PM
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post Apr 6 2014, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Apr 6 2014, 11:17 PM)
Yes, and the hard facts bear out at HK EMD voluntary labeling scheme for washing machines. Although a TL uses 4 times the amount of water per load vs FL, a conventional motor FL uses 10 times more electricity vs a TL and 5 times vs a inverter direct drive. If I were to choose a TL, Hitachi's would be good since it also incorporates tub cleaning function to reduce mould build up.
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My Hitachi also comes with tube cleaning, but then the sides I still need to clean manually.
Not to mention the water being used on tube cleaning.
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hi guys just wanna ask.. is it true that borsch wm and dryer is the best in the market ?
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post Apr 7 2014, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Apr 6 2014, 11:11 PM)
LG 17/9kg washer dryer FL now leads in the water consumption with their. Check SG PUBS and see what I mean.

Big Drum Slim 5500 is newer and slimmer at 60cm wide and 64cm deep compared to BD-S1100 at 73cm wide but 55cm deep. The BD-S5500 can spin up to 2880 rpm - perhaps for tub clean rather than clothes spin. The high speed spin is to dislodge mould in the outer tub.

BUT BUT BUT....
1. All wash then dry cycle takes at least 3-4 hours sometimes to complete at the lowest load number. Check the manuals. For example a 13/7kg LG washer dryer states the dry cycle takes at least up tp 150minutes.
2. The BD-S5500/S1100 don't have a built-in (impeller) pump. They discharge water by gravity like TL and cannot exceed 10cm above the bottom of the washing machine.

Wind iron and steam iron like Dyson or Mitsubishi hand dryer effect on clothes to make it less crumply and easier to iron.

Auto self clean is tub cleaning function after every wash. Defaulted to run with but can be turned off. If turned on, after clothes is remove, WM will instruct door to be closed to continue in tub cleaning phase.

Most outlet hose is designed helically wound rib (kedut kedut) - they claim this harbours mould. The smooth ribless inner tube design should be less conducive to mould build up.

Like I mentioned, don't let the high load rating of washing and drying allure you. In all practicality, more times than not it's better to separate loads to wash and dry. Electricity is not cheap also. Better to go for Panasonic heat pump dryer if it needs be. Total price of Hitachi BD-W85SV and Panasonic NH-P80G2 dryer should not exceed MYR7000 or much less if you buy display units or have better contact who can get cheaper. Get a stacking kit or source for home laundry speacilists that supply dryer stacking kits. BD-S5500 costs MYR7888 vs the 5499 of the LG 17/9, so consider wisely and both don't give the advantage of simultaneous wash and dry that the Hitachi and Panasonic dryer afford you from a single 13A plug.
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Fastest also 150 minutes. With this time, I already done with 2 full load of washing and make it spin for extra 9 minutes:thumbs:
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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 7 2014, 02:00 PM)
Fastest also 150 minutes. With this time, I already done with 2 full load of washing and make it spin for extra 9 minutes:thumbs:
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Some dwellings lack a dedicated drying area so have to use dryer.
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Seems like don't have any thread bout dryer,
so my question is can Electrolux EDP2074PDW dryer 7KG put on top of my Electrolux time manager front load 7kg? short of space at wet kitchen now sad.gif

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