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 AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V3, Thread stays on V3 till October.Read 1st

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post Aug 28 2008, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Aug 28 2008, 02:35 AM)
Just a quick Question

HD4870 vs nVidia, who's winning now?
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4850 beat 9800GTX (+?) bt loses to GTX 260.

4870 beat GTX 260 bt loses to GTX 280.

4870x2 = king of the hill currently.
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post Aug 31 2008, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(xpresside @ Aug 31 2008, 02:24 AM)
Front = intake

Rear = exhaust

Top = exhaust

Side = intake
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depends on ur hardware placement.
example, side can b GC place also, in dis case, intake.
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post Aug 31 2008, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 31 2008, 01:04 PM)
Corsair TX650 not bad I heard. RM450+-
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i thought TX650 dun hav 8 pin for GC?
it only hav 6 pin, dat 8 pin is for cpu.
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post Aug 31 2008, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Aug 31 2008, 03:37 PM)
So i was wondering...Is the size of 4850 similar to 3850? I might get a 4850 next year...no rush..

Especially the width...I have a DELL BTX casing with a big friggin' HSF for the CPU that will only allow single slot card...3870 out of the question..HSF is about 10cm away from my card
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if ur casing can fit, 3850, den no problem wit 4850.

only 4870 & 4870x2 is quite long compared 2 previous series.
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post Aug 31 2008, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(wlteng @ Aug 31 2008, 09:41 PM)
Just bought His iceQ 4, moding bios to 700MHZ GPU clock, 1100MHZ memory clock, 1.12voltage, temperature only raise 2C from full load, idle remain the same.
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attention: Gainward ATI HD 4850 512MB, GS owner, can u send me ur original bios file, i need to learn bios figures setting.
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y dun u just download it.
there is a GC bios collection @ techpowerup.
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post Sep 1 2008, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Sep 1 2008, 04:03 PM)
modifying bios - always a chance of bricking your card beyond reflashing back to ori bios = warranty void

plus withmodded bios, wont work with catalyst 8.8 and potentially future version of catalyst as well
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depends on manufacture.
i asked gigabyte (my 4870), dey said flashing bios doesn't void warranty although it is not recommended.
QUOTE(ben_panced @ Sep 1 2008, 04:19 PM)
eh modded bios dun work with new catalyst 8.8?
weird la  shocking.gif
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if self moded bios, might b got problem.
bt u can always flash 2 other manufacture bios.
like my normal 4870, i flash it to ASUS TOP (OC) version.
works very well 4 me.
QUOTE(kernah @ Sep 1 2008, 04:23 PM)
wat software to use to overclock ati card better?
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actually CCC is enough 2 OC already.
anything beyond dat, use ATITools.
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post Sep 1 2008, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Sep 1 2008, 05:33 PM)
I just bought 4850 GS last week. My 4850 GS is of course more powerful and smoother than my previous 9600gt and I am using 8.8 Catalyst driver along with control panel. My only concern is that when playing games like CoH and CoD4, sometimes there will be a 2-3 blackout. Usually when starting the games. And when playing too long or there are too many stuffs on the screen, suddenly the game will crash and so far I encountered one BSOD with KERNEL_INSTACK_PAGE_ERROR.

Is there any remedy for this?
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hm.........
looks like there is a trend here.
i c a loy of 4850 GS user complaining the same problem after few hours of gaming.

i wonder if it has anything 2 do wit no ram sink?

wats ur temperature of ur PCB on the bck of the card?
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post Sep 1 2008, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Sep 1 2008, 05:47 PM)
maybe someone should get some ram sink and try? so far i'm not having problem with my 4850..even like half  a day gaming or leaving the pc on in the afternoon (Makes the card heats up a bit sweat.gif )
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normal 4850 no problem, got ramsink.
only the golden sample version looks a little suspicious...... hmm.gif
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post Sep 1 2008, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(NetRaid @ Sep 1 2008, 06:09 PM)
Hey tech3910,

Please do not generalize. So far what we have is:

1. Celciuz - some problems with DirectX driver, already solved.
2. Desmond1310 - card faulty, waiting for RMA.

Desmond1310 posted many times so it may seems like a lot of issues, because he tested it thoroughly. If you are aware of anyone else, do let us know. Of the hundreds we sold, Desmond1310 is our first and only case at the moment.

Please don't create statement that might confuse or frighten others. Thank you.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i nvr conclude anything, i'm just saying suspicious bout GC wit no ram sink. much like hypothesis.
anyway, i dun refer 2 dis thread only wen i said i saw gc wit no ramsink hav problem. i'm talking bout everywhere, frens, customers, other forums..........

so dun b so scare, bt as extra insurance, better get sum ram sink.
remember the accelero S1 case?
GPU is cool, bt no rank sink, pcb & ram chip reach 100+C

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post Sep 1 2008, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Sep 1 2008, 06:29 PM)
Did Acelero S1 dont come with ram heat sink ?  rolleyes.gif

my voltage regulator dont have any sink btw , still work fine.  tongue.gif
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http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8500&Itemid=34
dis is the case i'm refering 2.
wen user din't use the ram sink, not acceloro din't provide ramsink.
means v can say (hypothesis) dat no matter if the GPU cooler is very efficient, no ram sink might b a problem.

pls read b4 u post comment.

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post Sep 1 2008, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Sep 1 2008, 06:33 PM)
If the factory tested , then theres really no problem.

like the AC Acelero S1 , they claims that their AC Acelero S1 can provide your gc work flawlessly even dont have voltage regulator heatsink.

I take this compare because when manufacture stated it works no problem , then you're fine.
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other factor contribute 2.
like air con room vs non-air con room & weather in here vs other places.
of coz, air flow is another big factor.

usually, the different wit factory OC is it comes wit more efficient cooler & bios is moded for higher dan speed.


Added on September 1, 2008, 5:47 pm
QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Sep 1 2008, 06:45 PM)
That only happened on 4870 with gddr5, lets assume the problem only occurs with 4870
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yes, DDR5 is a lot hotter den DDR3.
bt v can't conclude dat it will nvr happen 2 DDR3 GC.

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post Sep 1 2008, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(raymones89 @ Sep 1 2008, 07:15 PM)
thanks guys. im planning to get a hd4850 this week and im thinking of asus brand which i saw it cost rm630 at compuzone. worth taking it? i saw sapphire sell it around rm590 and gigabyte. so confused which one to buy  hmm.gif
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how bout asus ROG version brows.gif

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post Sep 1 2008, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(NetRaid @ Sep 1 2008, 09:32 PM)
Thanks for all the suggestions and feedbacks guys.  notworthy.gif

kaiser_falco, we didn't start a new thread because:

1. We don't want to take up space for overlapping topics and issues.

2. There are many people asking on 4850 everywhere in this forum, I address those related to Gainward and in general if we can help. Also to minimize double posting.

3. We will like to keep people updated on the latest models/specs/pics of Gainward, as compare to other brands. This is best done here.

Once again, thanks guys.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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any1 will provide V4?
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post Sep 1 2008, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Sep 1 2008, 11:51 PM)
Hope everything is fine because I just bought a 4850GS.
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ya, u shud stress it kaw kaw 1st.
got within a week, shop usually provide 1 to 1 guaranty.
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post Sep 2 2008, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(onimusha_m16 @ Sep 2 2008, 11:59 AM)
can my psu support 4850 gs ?

acbel ip 450W

my spec:
intel e6600
2 x 512mb ram
2x 1gb ram
1 x hdd
1 x dvd writer
some fans
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sure can run, bt u'll b stressing ur PSU.

i won't do dat if i were u, get @ least 450W true power PSU.
suggest get higher for future investment.
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post Sep 2 2008, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Volt @ Sep 2 2008, 02:57 PM)
hey guys, can the new rivatuner 2.10 change the fan speed?
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riva tunar is for nvidia card.......
if wanna change fan speed on ati 4k series card, PLS USE GOOGLE O USE THE GOD DAMN SEARCH BAR IN LYN.
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post Sep 2 2008, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Sep 2 2008, 05:24 PM)
Just forget about those ass who ask people read more but himself dont know.
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u ndivia fanboy obviously dun follow dis thread.
adjusting ATI fan speed is a very repetitive in here.
dis thread already mention bout how 2 adjust the fan speed multiple times including links as well.
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post Sep 2 2008, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Sep 2 2008, 06:35 PM)
So can rivatuner change fan speed or not? doh.gif I bought a HD3850 last year and have been using Rivatuner to control its fanspeed etc...You mean to say i have been cheated and its actually an NVIDIA card?
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for 4k series, u dun actually need any s/w 2 change the fan speed.
y use ati tools o rivatuner if u dun plan 2 OC beyond CCC?
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post Sep 3 2008, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Sep 3 2008, 09:05 AM)
lol, too bad, i still don't have confident in modular psu sweat.gif
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modular PSu nowadays also 80+ efficiency already, just not as high as non modular.

i use modular coz if not, things will b quite messy in my PC & might effect air flow.........
i hate tying up those cables.......
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post Sep 3 2008, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 3 2008, 06:01 PM)
SApphire toxic edition can go damn high,i dont know how high can gainward go and seems like no one oc their gainward golden sample card.
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dunno 2 sapphire nvr mek atomic version.
i love dat vapor chamber cooler.

bt very expensive........

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