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post Aug 28 2008, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Norns @ Aug 28 2008, 09:31 AM)
If I got auto debit payment from saving account , does it contribute to CCRIS or CTOS or bad record when we apply loan or cc ?
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The above is more likely to be applicable should you defaulted on your payment and you still do not make payment after the bank attempted to collect from you a few times.

In the first place, you should be more careful if you know you tend to make such "accidents". Why don't you remove that auto debit facility and make it a point to pay manually every month ? Some people may not like this as their excuse is the lack of convenience but it forces you to remember to pay those dues instead of thinking that the auto debit is a "safe zone".
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post Aug 28 2008, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Norns @ Aug 28 2008, 10:27 AM)
What i understand is, if the bank cant debit from your account, bank will send a report to the company. And company will remind us.

Do we have the right to discontinue the auto debit from the bank directly ?

So, its confirm auto debit thingy does give contribution to CCRIS or CTOS ? unsure.gif
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I'm unsure myself of what sort of scenario you got yourself into. Well, the company cant dictate how you manage your account or tell the bank that they want to control your account - this would be a violation of your own rights.

Well ... since it sounds like your bank is likely just a executioner of a standing order, I don't think it's your bank who will send something to CCRIS or CTOS. It is more likely to be the company. Again ... why get yourself into such trouble ? It is either you make sure there's money in the bank or make it a habit to pay every month. Well ... I'm not sure what exactly are you paying for but good luck.
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post Aug 28 2008, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Aug 28 2008, 05:10 PM)
@tachlio,
I'm quite sceptical about U being able to get ur CC within the stipulated time frame U mentioned.  Perhaps U need to get ur office to help pull strings with the bank in order to get ur application approved and physical card sent to you before u leave. 
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Agreed. It'll be a miracle if you can get your card within 1 week. Plus, you are asking ppl to look for you and rush the application. Mind you whether they rush it or not, they still get the same amount of commission. Why do more work for you for nothing ?

Suggest you scale down your expectations. icon_question.gif

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post Aug 28 2008, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(heterosapiens @ Aug 28 2008, 10:30 PM)
Btw, I have a question do anybody here use MasterCard SecureCode or Verified by VISA service?

I personally like the idea of extra protection just like PIN or password. But the fact the liability of the security was transferred (kind of totally) to the consumer is a turn off. Any opinion on this?
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I am using the Verified by VISA service. It's pretty good actually as in a way the bank is able to verify that it is you who is using your card for online purchases. I can understand why the liability is transferred to the consumer as if you forgot or allow the password to fall into the wrong hands, it is the equivalent of you giving the keys to your house to a thief. Treat it as if it is your online banking password and it will be OK.

Initially not a lot of websites have this features but the numbers are growing. The only downside IMHO is that you need to remember the password or it will be a lot of work to reset the system again. It is all self service - well at least in HSBC at least.
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post Aug 31 2008, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(TeraPox @ Aug 31 2008, 09:49 PM)
iphone 3G not worth it lar... wait for price drop first...since one of my iphone still working... ohmy.gif
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One of your iPhones? Does this means you have a lot of iPhones ?
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post Sep 2 2008, 10:23 PM

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@Norns

What you signed up for was the iPay plan from CIMB for CIMB/DA card holders. I think your merchant "tricked" you into believing that the EZ installment was theirs but the real fact it was the bank's.

A lesson for everyone to be aware of your own bank cc's service offerings. Don't allow them to con you.

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post Sep 6 2008, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(cHipoLatas @ Sep 6 2008, 10:10 AM)
I wanna sign up for credit card.

Just wondering... rolleyes.gif which bank got better offer in term of FREE GIFT?

Hope can gift me some suggestion.. smile.gif
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It is "give" you some suggestion and not "gift". You should apply a credit card based on the best product to suit your needs not based on the best gift. *shruggs* shocking.gif (Please .... in case anyone ever ask this question again)

In case anyone have this thought, why don't you drop down to MATTA fair and I'm sure there's plenty of cc offers.
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post Sep 6 2008, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(OcHaa @ Sep 6 2008, 04:19 PM)
my bro who is having a hong leong credit card now
he claims he can supp to me a card ..
however the card wil be totally unrelated to his card such as diff acc, diff statement.

my bro has a bad habit of borrowing money from bank and im worried if he's up to something ..
maybe by supplying me another card, he can use my card to borrow more money ?
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Well, some credit cards allow the principle holder to assign a seperate limit to the supplementary. This means that the supplementary would have a scenario like what you describe above. Anyway, any supplementary card holder will be provided a seperate account but not necessarily different statement.

Unless you are the principle card holder (which carries all the risk), you should not worry about this setup.


Added on September 6, 2008, 4:41 pm
QUOTE(tr|n|ty @ Sep 6 2008, 04:26 PM)
blink.gif  ppl use CC as a convenient way to make payment. collecting points is only a small appreciation from the bank for using their service.
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Fully agree on this one. I don't want to carry like RM20k in cash just to pay my hotel bills should I travel to Europe. (Not to mention carrying cash this much is totally unwise even in Malaysia)

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post Sep 6 2008, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Norns @ Sep 6 2008, 04:47 PM)
I heard people prefer to pay thing by cc due to benefit of point accumulated.

is it different from each bank ?

so far i using cimb mastercard paypas .. not sure got what point and etc ..
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It is generally the same across all banks except if they banks have promotions for a specific product. For example : MBB Petronas 5x TPs or maybe UOB 2x UniRinggit Points when you use it overseas. It is also great for online purchases and they provide you with fraud protection in case you are cheated. (Speaking from personal experience)

And yes ... CIMB Mastercard does have points. Check your credit card statement and you'll see it at the bottom right of the first page of your cc statement.

Well, if you are paying for the item and so happens they accept credit card - why don't you get yourself rewarded with some points? Like everyone says here ... credit card works both ways - it can either provide you with a wealth of conveniences and benefits or misery depending on how does the card owner uses and pays for it.

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post Sep 6 2008, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Norns @ Sep 6 2008, 05:36 PM)
So each bank point is only applicable for the particular bank right ?

Btw, can i apply for my 2nd card after i use for one month only ? Somemore I just change to new company with higher pay ...
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Each bank points system is unique to a bank and it is not universal. If I were you, I'll apply for another card with another bank but since your card is less than one year old, you will have to use your payslip. (And you have just switched company) Probably your chances of being approved is lower now - wait a few months.
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post Sep 7 2008, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(labtec @ Sep 7 2008, 12:28 AM)
does CIMB direct access CC has discount on petrol?
my friend say has 2% discount for any brand of petrol but i can't find this at their website
anyone who has direct access CC can verified this?
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Use the Mastercard DA card and you'll get that 2% discount on any petrol purchases.

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post Sep 7 2008, 05:53 AM

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QUOTE(labtec @ Sep 7 2008, 12:51 AM)
any petrol also can?
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Yes
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post Sep 7 2008, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Sep 7 2008, 12:17 PM)
for the citibank.. got so many types!??! clearcard, shell, giant. etc..

which should i go for? my friend said the classic got more shops discounts whereas the rest aims for their respective purpose.. like shell for shell giant for giant..

any ideas? thanks
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Ask yourself what you intend to do with the card. Shopping @ Giant ? Pump up petrol 2 Shell ? Fly with AirAsia ? and the list goes on.
Then select the card which suits you best ... it is that simple cool2.gif Don't be greedy and tell youself you want everything out of a Citibank card - unfortunately Citibank segmentise their cards and you can't get it all.
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post Sep 7 2008, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Sep 7 2008, 12:47 PM)
i planning to get one master frm hsbc, thn another visa frm citibank.. only two..

might get a DA master frm CIMB for petrol..

yup i rarely shop at giant, petrol i dont wanna limit myself to shell (INCASE OF EMERGENCY) hence the cimb DA, or airasia.. lol.. tats why i am considering the clearcard.. but was wondering is it the true that the clearcard has got more discounts/redemption attributes?

another thing. the credit limit.. who sets it? based on the income i am earning? i know the card type has somtin to do wit it.. but if two person has a gold card.. it varies still right?
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To me the Citibank Clearcard was at its best several years back when it had discounted movie tickets, Maxis Promos and Coffee Bean Promo and it hasn't been the same ever since. Take a look at its discount catalog and see whether anything interest you or fits your lifestyle. I bet ya ... you'll probably enjoy like only one, two or just a few of the promos (depending on your lifestyle). Everyone / the sales person will say lots of promos but would you use it all and how often ?

I see Citibank cards best for paying bills but myself not having one at the moment and will stay clear of the card for the time being. (Long story)

Credit limit is determined by the bank mainly depending on your salary slip. As you use more of the card then the bank will perhaps upgrade your credit limit depending on your history with them. Credit limit varies individual to individual.

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post Sep 7 2008, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(happyman102 @ Sep 7 2008, 11:01 PM)
Malaysian has more people file bankrupcy compare to last time and the age group is from age 20-28.
All because of they don't know how to control on the usage of credit card.
I am making a comment that don't greedy because of collecting points from credit card company provided you are good at your cash flow  icon_idea.gif
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These cases are not necessarily due to credit card abuse. I read somewhere that the cause of Malaysian backruptcy cases is not solely due to credit card. People abuse their credit card not because to earn points but it is because they are spending beyond their means to pay up. hmm.gif

I had a friend many years ago who got excited after getting his first credit card and went on a shopping spree, dates, trips ... name it. After about 3 months he nearly maxed out his CL of about 5K if I remember it correctly and he spent the next 2 years paying it all back. So ... is it the card company's fault or his fault ?
Don't blame the card ... blame the owner who uses the card without control.


Added on September 7, 2008, 11:25 pm
QUOTE(dinozilla @ Sep 7 2008, 11:13 PM)
if u taking a citibank card, but mainly as a supplementary usage, or travel usage only, not daily use, what card is best?
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Then any card from Citibank will do because you are just using it for the convenience. On another thought ... any credit card will do !

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post Sep 7 2008, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Sep 7 2008, 11:28 PM)
hehe...but i expect sometimes if u buying in foreign place, if u present a Maybankard to them, probably they will reject right....
which foreign-recognisable card is ok to apply?
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Oh no .... don't ever believe in that myth. The Arabs / foreigners who spend their money here using "non-Maybank" cards are widely accepted by the merchants here without any problems.

Well ... if you insist, I have a personal preference for HSBC cards.

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post Sep 8 2008, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Sep 8 2008, 04:50 PM)
Applied MBB Petronas. Free for life biggrin.gif

They asked for contact of a relative that dont live together. Why ah :|
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It is perfectly normal - like terapox said, just in case they can't find you if you defaulted on your payments then they'll look for this person on your whereabouts. Not just MBB, all the credit card issuers will do so. In some cases, they will call the contact to verify but not always they will do so.
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post Sep 9 2008, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Sep 9 2008, 08:43 AM)
When i get CC, do it had any rule that i had to follow to cancel the card(Not Yet active)
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If I'm not mistaken, unactivated cards will be automatically cancelled after 6 months. However, I suggest you make that call to the bank (they may even request you to write in depending on the bank) and cancel that card - get a good night sleep knowing you have cancelled that card properly. On some occasions, they will ask you to reconsider your decision but it is entirely up to you.

Bro ... U r acccesing the thread from Tokyo ? Cool !


Added on September 9, 2008, 9:07 am
QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 9 2008, 08:47 AM)
Does the merchant actually verify with the bank on the signature you sign ? If not why do I need to sign ?
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No they don't but it is a requirement that you sign the card as per Mastercard and VISA International rules. Read what is stated behind - "Card is not valid unless signed". Some merchant will refuse to accept your card if you don't sign - it all depends on your luck whether you can get away with it.

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post Sep 10 2008, 08:08 AM

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HSBC CS once alerted me of such scams. Be careful guys but do not be discouraged from buying things online.
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post Sep 10 2008, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Sep 10 2008, 10:27 AM)
for CIMB Direct access.. do i need to include my degree certificate and business card? necesary ar??
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Yes ... because Direct Access is a product for graduates only. They have a different product for non-graduates.

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