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 iPhone 3G Specifications?, Anyone can clarify ?

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SUSMike3300
post Jul 13 2008, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(catsper @ Jul 13 2008, 08:34 PM)
Addition: Improved speaker volume and headphone jack design.
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Some users have reported that they're having problems plugging out their headphones after plugging it in, maybe it's too tight.

QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Jul 13 2008, 09:45 PM)
a normal gps is able to get routing/directions while driving.. i'm not sure bout the iphone 3g.. need to check it out..
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From what I read in most forums, it can't.
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post Jul 13 2008, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jul 13 2008, 10:55 PM)
Some users have reported that they're having problems plugging out their headphones after plugging it in, maybe it's too tight.
From what I read in most forums, it can't.
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Ermmmm....so what is it for? Just to pinpoint your current position? That is a bit disappointing. But probably this could be easily fixed with a firmware upgrade.
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post Jul 13 2008, 11:31 PM

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gosh then the GPS sux big time.. whats the point of pin pointing ur location ? =/ u have to remain stationary in the car? swt..
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post Jul 14 2008, 12:05 AM

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u all have misunderstand the GPS concept.

GPS will not give you any routing. the software does.

GPS will not give you the POI. the software does.

GPS only get the coordinates, the software is the one that maximize the usage of GPS.

so before you say it sux bigtime, go study about it. sweat.gif

as what i see iphone 3g is using googlemap, it sure burn a big hole in your wallet if no unlimited plan. and googlemap for malaysia is not really uptodate, although it has most of the main roads in KL.

by using googlemap, you can pin your current location and your destination and the software will do all the directing. however googlemap is kinda disappointing in this matter.

what the point of pinpointing the location? to know where the hell are you and with the help of the map, get you out from the lost. what for you remain stationary in the car? GPS pinpoint ur coordinate real time, meaning wherever you go, GPS will give you the coordinates while on the move.
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post Jul 14 2008, 12:43 AM

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@Seaedge
Well said bro. Some people will just start bashing before getting the fact straight. I thought the internet is just at tip of our finger?
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post Jul 14 2008, 08:45 AM

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this is a nice thread..i dun need google nw whistling.gif

all i need to knw abt the 3G iphone..i mean google couldn't provide this much info..
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post Jul 14 2008, 09:33 AM

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wahlao... den i shud shaddap.. let uncle goodle do the work...


but really cannot let ppl tok bad about GPS... coz GPS save my life few times already... not google map of coz...

I WAN GARMIN IN IPHONE 3G!! drool.gif
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@byte: if the internet is at our fingertip, we wont get so much question rite? smile.gif at least it refreshes our mind sometimes...

thank god they didnt ask GP®S only... which is the common misunderstand fact.
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post Jul 14 2008, 09:36 AM

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i don't think GoogleMap has routing features for m'sia. the GPS on iphone can only tell you where you at on the map but it can't tell you how to get to a certain location. google map can't even search address in m'sia.you have to manual navigate yourself. It doesn't support turn by turn navigation as i guess m'sia is not fully supported by GoogleMap.
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post Jul 14 2008, 09:41 AM

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seaedge please read earlier post where a member said that the GPS only PINPOINTS UR LOCATION for the 3G iPhone which is why i started bashing it. I'm asking for feedback about the 3G iPhone's GPS not GPS as a whole.

I know the normal GPS such as Garmin can show u directions to a location on the go. However we're talking bout the GPS on the 3G iPhone.
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QUOTE(Choongster @ Jul 14 2008, 09:36 AM)
i don't think GoogleMap has routing features for m'sia. the GPS on iphone can only tell you where you at on the map  but it can't tell you how to get to a certain location. google map can't even search address in m'sia.you have to manual navigate yourself. It doesn't support turn by turn navigation as i guess m'sia is not fully supported by GoogleMap.
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now did you mention, i use google navigator on my Dopod D810. is it the same? how come i can search the address in gNav ? rolleyes.gif i think gMap and gNav is different software then.

but agree that m'sia is not fully support by google map. that is why i shouted for GARMIN.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Jul 14 2008, 09:41 AM)
seaedge please read earlier post where a member said that the GPS only PINPOINTS UR LOCATION for the 3G iPhone which is why i started bashing it. I'm asking for feedback about the 3G iPhone's GPS not GPS as a whole.

I know the normal GPS such as Garmin can show u directions to a location on the go. However we're talking bout the GPS on the 3G iPhone.
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dah... i malas to explain since ppl are hard to educate them to start googling...

let me do the spoonfeeding..

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GPS acquisition has also been surprisingly fast for a cellphone. AGPS devices use traditional GPS receivers, but help speed up location acquisition and accuracy by using cellphone towers to triangulate. As far as we know, the iPhone 3G is the only device out right now that not only has AGPS, but takes advantage of Skyhook's proprietary WiFi-based location system, giving it a total of three ways to help find where you're at. We were able to acquire GPS in as little as a second or two, although depending on your location and reception, you might see that take longer. It's important to note, though, that the iPhone's was clearly intended to be a location-aware smartphone -- not a dedicated GPS device. There's a big difference.

That said, there's an enormous amount of interest by people hoping they can add one more to the pile of devices their iPhone has taken over for. It's pretty clear why people might want the iPhone 3G to replace their car's dedicated GPS nav, too. It's not just a location-aware device with a large, bright screen -- it's also connected (with service you're already paying for), thus able to get traffic updates, routing information, and so on. The Google Maps app doesn't provide turn by turn route guidance, though, so while it does provide directions, you can only use it as a stand-in -- and not as a full replacement -- for a proper GPS device. This problem might be solved later by some intrepid 3rd party developer (like, say, TomTom or Telenav), but there's been some confusion as to whether this might actually happen, and what Apple's official stance on GPS nav actually is. And even if this GPS software does eventually come out, the speaker on the iPhone 3G simply won't be loud enough to be heard over most road noise, so you'd also have to make use of a line-out. In other words, don't sell your GPS device just yet, okay?


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post Jul 14 2008, 12:05 PM

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@ seaedge - Well explained re. the tech behind GPS.

The purpose of the GPS within the iPHone 3G is really not so much for in-car navigational purpose, but more as a backdoor for future location-based advertising for commerce. The google map in matured markets have various POI which includes commercial retailers. So when you activate the google map in iPhone, the map immediately shows u where u are and if u type say, pizza, or at&t, it will show u the locations of these outlets within your nearby vicinity.


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@Seaedge

no offense meant at u la bro..

ppl hv google but dun use..dey jz make assumptions and start banging..
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hehehe... i didnt really meant that they dont have google.. they just dont use it. and that is when the spoonfeeding part comes in...
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post Jul 14 2008, 06:08 PM

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@seaedge
I do thank you for the information on GPS ..

The reason why i attacked the iPhone GPS is because it CANNOT GIVE US OUR LOCATION IF WE ARE NOT STATIONARY (eg : travelling in the car).

From what you posted, it DOES SEEM THAT WAY or mayb i misunderstood what u posted.

Even if they upgrade the googlemap to show you directional roads to a specific location, you CANNOT use the iphone as a navigation tool to pinpoint your location while you are travelling in the car. Which is the reason why i bashed the iphone GPS.

Not to start an arguement but i do think that the way you write in the forums could be improved when addressing someone
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post Jul 14 2008, 06:30 PM

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The A-GPS in iPhone does show the CURRENT location even if you are driving a car (means you don't have to be stationary). This is more accurate compared to walking as it needs few seconds to refresh.

Your gripe with the iPhone GPS is not with the GPS itself but with the software. Google Maps in the iPhone is not capable of the turn-by-turn direction or visual routing as there are no functions built in to cater to that. Google Maps is just a ... well ... merely a map (which is useless if we use it in malaysia). To get turn-by-turn direction capabilities requires a software dedicated in doing so such as TomTom or Telenav. Sadly to say that such software might violate the SDK requirement. All we can do is just wait and see for an update on this.

Hope this clear the air on the iPhone GPS capabilities, the shortcoming of Google Maps in term of a navigational tool and the future capabilities that can be harness from iPhone GPS system.
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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Jul 14 2008, 06:08 PM)
@seaedge
I do thank you for the information on GPS ..

The reason why i attacked the iPhone GPS is because it CANNOT GIVE US OUR LOCATION IF WE ARE NOT STATIONARY (eg : travelling in the car).

From what you posted, it DOES SEEM THAT WAY or mayb i misunderstood what u posted.

Even if they upgrade the googlemap to show you directional roads to a specific location, you CANNOT use the iphone as a navigation tool to pinpoint your location while you are travelling in the car. Which is the reason why i bashed the iphone GPS.

Not to start an arguement but i do think that the way you write in the forums could be improved when addressing someone
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my god.. nvm.. i dun mind that. i dont plan to explain further.

besides, did you use GPS based phone b4? and about the addressing part... show me how did i address someone? and ways to improve the addressing part. please teach me, coz i am dying to learn about it.


@byte: thanks for re-explaining things. i understand that sometimes the brain has limited function for different person.

i wonder why i ever post that info too.

it stated there, that googlemap is unable to give routing, and the possibilty of 3rd party GPS software, and not even a single complain from them that the GPS is not giving the coordinates while driving in the car. i find it funny now.

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post Jul 14 2008, 07:04 PM

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basically iphone 3g just got 3g connection and GPS function?
no WIFI right?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 14 2008, 07:04 PM)
basically iphone 3g just got 3g connection and GPS function?
no WIFI right?
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doh.gif doh.gif

this one i really speechless...

SPOONFED!

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 14 2008, 07:04 PM)
basically iphone 3g just got 3g connection and GPS function?
no WIFI right?
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wow,no wifi... biggrin.gif

where you get this kind of infomation?
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QUOTE(uchan @ Jul 13 2008, 08:01 PM)
how about iPhone specification in term of hardware?
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dun be lazy.. go check on apple's website.. only a few clicks away doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 14 2008, 07:04 PM)
basically iphone 3g just got 3g connection and GPS function?
no WIFI right?
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speechless..


ppl r getting lazier n lazier.. oh well.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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