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zilole9729
post Jan 17 2009, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(3AngLeCake @ Jan 16 2009, 03:48 PM)
coz my hometown in seremban,

i asking juz in case any1 from here know where can get a good price in seremban that all ma... tongue.gif

btw thanks guys i'm looking forward to go to dat kedai papan one! rclxms.gif
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from seremban? then i invite u to our LYN Seremban gang..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/836923

if u really want in seremban, i will recommend u 2 shops. 1 is in senawang. the biggest tyre shop in seremban. u know where? the dunlop tyre shop. the other one is in rahang. i think its michelin. if i am not mistaken, its on the right hand side of the road going into town, not Jalan Zaaba. the other one. i recommend u these shops cuz they have a lot of choice. others all very few. or i know another shop where i know the owner cuz i do my alignment thr all the time. pm me if u want la. maybe can try talk to the owner n get u a good price. but this shop is in lukut.

ppl say price is cheap in klang but for me its the same cuz when u go to the papan shop, they will quote the rims for a cheap price, then u must add this n that. in seremban n other places i checked, they quote u one price for everything u need from rims, tyres, wheel nut n all that la. but this is juz based on my experience.


Added on January 17, 2009, 7:28 ami was asking on offset. what is it?

This post has been edited by zilole9729: Jan 17 2009, 07:28 AM
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post Jan 17 2009, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(zilole9729 @ Jan 17 2009, 07:28 AM)
from seremban? then i invite u to our LYN Seremban gang..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/836923

if u really want in seremban, i will recommend u 2 shops. 1 is in senawang. the biggest tyre shop in seremban. u know where? the dunlop tyre shop. the other one is in rahang. i think its michelin. if i am not mistaken, its on the right hand side of the road going into town, not Jalan Zaaba. the other one. i recommend u these shops cuz they have a lot of choice. others all very few. or i know another shop where i know the owner cuz i do my alignment thr all the time. pm me if u want la. maybe can try talk to the owner n get u a good price. but this shop is in lukut.

ppl say price is cheap in klang but for me its the same cuz when u go to the papan shop, they will quote the rims for a cheap price, then u must add this n that. in seremban n other places i checked, they quote u one price for everything u need from rims, tyres, wheel nut n all that la. but this is juz based on my experience.


Added on January 17, 2009, 7:28 ami was asking on offset. what is it?
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Yup agree.. kedai papan nowadays having bad reputation.. the tell u good price of the rims.. but when u hav decided to fix to ur car then while doing their job.. they tell u need these.. need that.. bolt oso need change.. these so called hidden charges is their point to bigger the hole in ur pocket.. in klang there is a shop like this also.. its kazuto garage..

here all u need to know about ur wheels/rims:

Name Of Wheel Parts
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Wheel Size
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Offset
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The offset indicates the distance from the center of the rim to the attaching disk part (unit:m/m). As seen in the attached drawing, the offset is indicated by "+" when the fitting surface extends beyond the central line of the rim and "-" when it is falls within. Caution is required to prevent the tire from coming into contact with the fender of the vehicle or the brake caliper if the offsets are very different.

PCD
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The number of bolts used to install a wheel varies from 4 to 6 depending on the vehicle model (except for some vehicle type), thus the wheel to be installed should also possess the same number of hub bolt holes. P.C.D. stands for pitch circle diameter, and indicates the diameter of the circle in mm connecting the center of each hub bolt. Since the P.C.D. also varies according to the vehicle model, make sure a suitable one is selected.

Clearance
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Fender clearance indicates the marginal space between the tire and the fender or body of the vehicle. Inner clearance indicates the distance between the tire and wheel and the body part which is positioned closest to the tire and wheel. Dimensions for both right and left clearance should be measured on a level surface, and the smaller value is then considered as the inner clearance.

Tyre Size
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1-Tire width (mm or inch)
2-Aspect ratio
3-Radial construction
4-Rim diameter
5-Load index
6-Speed symbol
7-Tire outer diameter (inch)
8-Ply rating

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Safety Standard
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Japan Light Alloy Wheel (JWL) Standard for Passenger Cars. The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, and Transport requires that aluminum wheels for passenger cars (with 3, 5, and 7-number plates) sold in Japan bear the JWL mark. The JWL mark can be displayed on wheels that have passed the standard through a self-certification system.

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Similarly, the ministry requires aluminum wheels for trucks and buses (with 1 and 4-number plates) to bear the JWL-T mark. Even if a vehicle is classified as a passenger car (with 3, 5, or 7-number plates), if it comes with LT tires as standard equipment due to its GVW (gross vehicle weight), it must use aluminum wheels bearing the JWL-T mark.

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A third-party entity called the Vehicle Inspection Association verifies whether a product meets the requirements prescribed by the JWL or JWL-T standard. This association permits a product to bear a VIA mark if it passes rigorous quality and strength verification tests conducted in accordance with the JWL or JWL-T standard.


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post Jan 18 2009, 08:07 PM

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Bro, thx for the info about the rims. It's such useful for a beginner who want to know more about rim like me.

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post Jan 18 2009, 08:32 PM

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hehe.. no problem.. lots off other info like these out there.. try google for it.. sure u can find
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post Jan 18 2009, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(mao2 @ Jan 18 2009, 08:32 PM)
hehe.. no problem.. lots off other info like these out there.. try google for it.. sure u can find
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Btw, if I plan to install 17in rim, but dont want to lower my car, which tyres type/profile is suitable for 17in rim?

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post Jan 18 2009, 09:10 PM

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by using 17".. ur car will gain extra height due to the stock spring setting that design for comfort and good handling with stock wheels.. if ur planning to change 17" without lowering ur car.. u might have abit handling problem.. unless ur not the kind like to drive fast in corners.. anout tyre.. what car are u using? coz usually choosing the rite series of tyre to fit arch gap between ur rims and ur car body.. 17" usually 45 series for comfort and safty of ur rims.. but 40 series also can.. but u have to be careful onda road coz pot holes sure gonna make ur rims suffer from dents and worst cracks..
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post Jan 19 2009, 10:43 AM

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those safety standard for the rim..for buatan m'sia got this kind of stuff??like those taiwan rim or those cap ayam rim..is there any safety standard??
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post Jan 19 2009, 09:55 PM

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i'm not sure.. maybe hav and maybe not.. coz those safety standard sometimes even wheel makers from other country also sent to japan to verify and inspect so that they also get certification of VIA and JWL.. but i'm guessing famous wheel brands from euro like OZ maybe hav their own standards also..
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well..always i'm thinking how is the QC is our local and taiwan made rim..my fren ask me to test the rim hardness by those machine..they will like punch a small hole(size of a 1.0 ball pen)..and the machine will tell how hard is ur rim..but if rim with super hardness also dosen't mean it has the QC checking pass..and tat kind of testing is around rm300++ per test..
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huhuhu.. good stuff.. but usually the hardness of a rims is equal to its weight.. the harder and tougher the rims the heavier they get.. thats when VIA tells u how many weight/rim it can carry.. so i think local made are rims are heavy due to its hardness to withstand our roads (lots of potholes & uneven surface).. but people said local BHL have few of light weight rims..
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QUOTE(mao2 @ Jan 19 2009, 11:49 PM)
huhuhu.. good stuff.. but usually the hardness of a rims is equal to its weight.. the harder and tougher the rims the heavier they get.. thats when VIA tells u how many weight/rim it can carry.. so i think local made are rims are heavy due to its hardness to withstand our roads (lots of potholes & uneven surface).. but people said local BHL have few of light weight rims..
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are u serious???????????


i take it u've never heard of JRD???


n i take it uve never experienced Jap rims???

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rim weight has NOTHING to do with rim strength watsoever. its the metal used and the forging/casting process that gives it its weight and strength.
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post Jan 20 2009, 12:38 AM

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seriously after reading through the info from mao2, i still dont get it. ntg wrong with the info but me. i dont understand how can the rim offset can prevent the tyres hitting the car on bumpy roads or when the car is lowered? can someone explain?
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QUOTE(mao2 @ Jan 19 2009, 11:49 PM)
huhuhu.. good stuff.. but usually the hardness of a rims is equal to its weight.. the harder and tougher the rims the heavier they get.. thats when VIA tells u how many weight/rim it can carry.. so i think local made are rims are heavy due to its hardness to withstand our roads (lots of potholes & uneven surface).. but people said local BHL have few of light weight rims..
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but sometimes when a rim is too hard..they can't absorb any impact if there is any..and with this kind of hardness..usually a rim will crack..not bengkok..which usually u can see most of those cheap rim crack easy and those expensive rim bengkok easy but don't really crack..
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QUOTE(zilole9729 @ Jan 20 2009, 12:38 AM)
seriously after reading through the info from mao2, i still dont get it. ntg wrong with the info but me. i dont understand how can the rim offset can prevent the tyres hitting the car on bumpy roads or when the car is lowered? can someone explain?
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offset means the clearance of the tyre and the fender, too much positive offset then the rim and tyre will be like shrink to the inner part, like more nearer to the engine, negative offset means the rim and tyre will be further away from the engine, which means more nearer to the fender, that's ur rims will hit the fender while turning.

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post Jan 20 2009, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 20 2009, 12:30 AM)
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are u serious???????????
i take it u've never heard of JRD???
n i take it uve never experienced Jap rims???

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rim weight has NOTHING to do with rim strength watsoever. its the metal used and the forging/casting process that gives it its weight and strength.
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yeah.. i know JRD.. i've experience Jap rims, even Italian or German.. yes there ar many method on making a rim.. either forged, semi-forged, casting, those type using 2 piece, 3 piece, even 4 piece.. yes my experience is not that wide.. still learning also can make mistake.. but its not wrong if i we're to say certain hardness have their own weight.. i should put 'correct me if i'm wrong' next time..
anyway thanx for correcting me.. hehe no hard feelings.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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guys, is Konig available in M'sia?
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post Jan 21 2009, 08:22 PM

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mayb some good tyre shop would have.. or maybe half-cut
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post Jan 21 2009, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jan 20 2009, 12:11 PM)
offset means the clearance of the tyre and the fender, too much positive offset then the rim and tyre will be like shrink to the inner part, like more nearer to the engine, negative offset means the rim and tyre will be further away from the engine, which means more nearer to the fender, that's ur rims will hit the fender while turning.
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oic.. but my problem is that my tyres r hitting on the fenders on bumpy roads or when there is a heavy load. is there any way that the offsets, +ve or -ve can help? thanx.
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fender-roll or take out the mud-guard
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anyone wanna sell 15" or 16" rims. pls pm me! thx bros!

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