i see no such indicator ler

so its not available in mt4?

Proportion of Market Winners
It is difficult to know the actual proportion of market participants
who win over the long term. My own estimate, and those of
several well-regarded traders and warriors, puts the figure at
about 5 percent. That is, just 5 percent of market participants
consistently win over the long term, year after year. This figure
sounds devastatingly low until one recognizes that it is because it
is such a low figure that it must indeed be correct. How else
would it be possible for the few, the warrior traders, to build the
enormous fortunes that inspire all of us to compete for the prize?
A success rate of 5 percent suggests that 100 percent of the
money invested by all market traders will end up in the pockets
of just the top 5 percent. In reality, it is probably more like 85
percent of the wealth in the market goes to the top 5 percent, as
there are no doubt some traders who continue to break even.
Nevertheless, when one considers the degree of success and
wealth some traders are known to have accumulated, it becomes
clear that this rate of 5 percent is most probably correct.
Look around you. Of your colleagues and friends who you
know trade in markets, it is likely that only 1 in 20 will be a longterm
winner. Only 1 in 20 will consistently win on an annual
basis, and do so over many years to come.
Even before you consider the question of whether you are
that 1, let’s consider the other 19. The real breakdown is obviously
unknown; however, it is possible to make general predictions.
Of the 19, usually 3—that is, 15 percent—will break even
over the long run. The remaining 16—or 80 percent—will lose
consistently. Some will lose everything they have. Many will lose
such a significant sum that it will have a serious impact on their
personal lives. This is no lighthearted matter or subject. Of the
5 percent of participants who win, many will go on to exert economic,
and perhaps political, influence over their communities
as a result of their tremendous victories.

Actually that's wrong. The 5% make 5% (that's what their winnings are.) The broker makes 85% (from taking the other side of the losing trades.)  The rest no one makes (they break even.)

huhu... every1 hav diffirent view i guess.. it was quoted inside d book m readin...

m guessin u were referrin to banks instead of broker?

No really. Think about it, do you think any ECN will accept your micro-lot ? if no one wants it how does it get filled then ? it gets filled because the broker takes it. He knows 85% of the trades will be losers so if he takes the other side, he will have an 85% win/lose ratio secondly the platform is in the complete control of the broker. There is no such thing as "regulation" is the forex market. Let's look at share prices, for instance. If the price of say 1 lot of PBB is say $15.10, it will be $15.10 with every share broker in the country. That is what regulation means. This ensures a level playing field for everyone. If you look at forex prices, you can see that for the same cross, there are tons of prices, all of them different why do you think that happens ? it's because there is no regulation. Even if they say they are "regulated" by whoever, it just means that they are registered. The authority knows who they are, so they can't close shop and run away. It doesn't mean that they won't go bankrupt, it doesn't mean that they can't put an unauthorized trade on your account, it doesn't mean that they will honor your stop, it doesn't mean that they won't raise the spread to 500 pips during news time. It doesn't mean that a sudden glitch in their charts won't lead to your making the wrong decision. How do you prove that you never made that trade ?

Which brings me to that very interesting point that a lot of these forex trainers use, that you're participating in a very liquid market. It's true that forex is a very liquid market, it's just not true that you're in it if you're in it, then no matter what broker you use, they should all have the same prices, right ? why don't they, then ?

hm..if i'm not mistaken, brokers (e.g. fxcm, odl, etc) get their profits through spread, just like those "registered" money changers. Regulated broker (if not mistaken again) is just being registered through a body (basically they need a large sum of money). Basically, brokers has nothing to lose. Either traders profit or lose in their trades, brokers still gain, cause they're profitting through the spreads that are applied. With the margin required, it will safeguard the broker, and sometimes the traders, preventing from being in debt.

No really. Think about it, do you think any ECN will accept your micro-lot ? if no one wants it how does it get filled then ? it gets filled because the broker takes it. He knows 85% of the trades will be losers so if he takes the other side, he will have an 85% win/lose ratio secondly the platform is in the complete control of the broker. There is no such thing as "regulation" is the forex market. Let's look at share prices, for instance. If the price of say 1 share of PBB is say $15.10, it will be $15.10 with every share broker in the country. That is what regulation means. This ensures a level playing field for everyone. If you look at forex prices, you can see that for the same cross, there are tons of prices, all of them different why do you think that happens ? it's because there is no regulation. Even if they say they are "regulated" by whoever, it just means that they are registered. The authority knows who they are, so they can't close shop and run away. It doesn't mean that they won't go bankrupt, it doesn't mean that they can't put an unauthorized trade on your account, it doesn't mean that they will honor your stop, it doesn't mean that they won't raise the spread to 500 pips during news time. It doesn't mean that a sudden glitch in their charts won't lead to your making the wrong decision. How do you prove that you never made that trade ?

Which brings me to that very interesting point that a lot of these forex trainers use, that you're participating in a very liquid market. It's true that forex is a very liquid market, it's just not true that you're in it if you're in it, then no matter what broker you use, they should all have the same prices, right ? why don't they, then ?

EU

I choose Long but will nid to wait. Monthly showing a LONG mode.

4H TF shows a bear channel, but I guess 1.4780 is hard enough for it???

If want to go LONG, nid to wait 15m trendline break and price keep on stand above 1.4780.... So I will wait

relax a bit...