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Home Theatre Blu ray players: Recommendations please, Blu ray players, which one ?

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aiman04
post Jul 20 2008, 07:14 AM

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Most new AVRs now can decode DTS-HD Master Audio onboard. This S350 can bitstream it, so no worrries there (I actually prefer bitstreaming actually).

I would really consider this if I see reviews say that it load BDs faster than PS3, and retails at lower than RM2k locally (fat hope, maybe can get it from SG).

Local announcement here:

http://www.lowyat.net/v2/latest/sony-unvei...c-player-5.html

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post Jul 20 2008, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 20 2008, 07:14 AM)
Most new AVRs now can decode DTS-HD Master Audio onboard. This S350 can bitstream it, so no worrries there (I actually prefer bitstreaming actually).

I would really consider this if I see reviews say that it load BDs faster than PS3, and retails at lower than RM2k locally (fat hope, maybe can get it from SG).

Local announcement here:

http://www.lowyat.net/v2/latest/sony-unvei...c-player-5.html
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Bitstream (core only) = core = DTS track

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post Jul 20 2008, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 20 2008, 07:21 AM)
Bitstream (core only) = core = DTS track

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Is that from the S350 manual? It doesn't bitstream HBR audio? I thought I read somewhere that it does.

Then I can't consider this model. Panasonic BD30 is still the best choice now.

Now let's see how it compares between Sony S550 and Panasonic BD50.


Added on July 20, 2008, 7:32 amBlu-ray.com is saying that it can bitstream HBR:

http://www.blu-ray.com/players/players.php?id=62&show=specs

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 20 2008, 07:29 AM)
Is that from the S350 manual? It doesn't bitstream HBR audio? I thought I read somewhere that it does.

Then I can't consider this model. Panasonic BD30 is still the best choice now.

Now let's see how it compares between Sony S550 and Panasonic BD50.


Added on July 20, 2008, 7:32 amBlu-ray.com is saying that it can bitstream HBR:

http://www.blu-ray.com/players/players.php?id=62&show=specs
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yes page 62 of the S350 manual. some people want my head because i pointed that that Sony manual says bitstream support for DTS HD and DTS HD Master is DTS Core only - and pointed out the same S350 manual from Sony!

i just dont think its logical to sell player specs that is sooo similar on S350 ($400) and on S550 ($500) . I would say the S550 will either decode HD and HD MA or bitstream non core only HD and HD MA.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 20 2008, 12:00 PM)
yes page 62 of the S350 manual. some people want my head because i pointed that that Sony manual says bitstream support for DTS HD and DTS HD Master is DTS Core only - and pointed out the same S350 manual from Sony!

i just dont think its logical to sell player specs that is sooo similar on S350 ($400) and on S550 ($500) . I would say the S550 will either decode HD and HD MA or bitstream non core only HD and HD MA.
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my A35 have been bitstream full HD MA for long ago..

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QUOTE(yed @ Jul 20 2008, 12:40 PM)
my A35 have been bitstream full HD MA for long ago..

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Lucky you cabut already. laugh.gif

Just wondering, was there that many titles on HDDVD that has DTS-HD MA?
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 20 2008, 12:49 PM)
Lucky you cabut already. laugh.gif

Just wondering, was there that many titles on HDDVD that has DTS-HD MA?
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i do Blu lah..just teringat my late player.. but still running..smile.gif
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Recently I saw Blu-ray pirated disc sold(from china) at the market.....wondering...the actual Blue-Ray player can play the disc...
some said cannot and some say can......dunno who to believe...

I am considering to upgrade my dvd.....dunno whether want the Blue-ray player ...or those with DVD upconversion.....


I also heard PSP3 can play blue ray disc....but the salesman said...possible not to use the PSP3 for Blue Ray...cause...it will spoil the lens.....true or not ah?... hmm.gif





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QUOTE(ALPS2008 @ Jul 20 2008, 03:47 PM)
Recently I saw Blu-ray pirated disc sold(from china) at the market.....wondering...the actual Blue-Ray player can play the disc...
some said cannot and some say can......dunno who to believe...

I am considering to upgrade my dvd.....dunno whether want the Blue-ray player ...or those with DVD upconversion.....
I also heard PSP3 can play blue ray disc....but the salesman said...possible not to use the PSP3 for Blue Ray...cause...it will spoil the lens.....true or not ah?... hmm.gif
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Those claimed to be pirated BD is b**lshit. We have discussed it before. You can play this so-called BD in DVDP. So, it aint Blu.

Many of us here are using PS3 as BD player. It didnt have any problem (touch wood). But, there are some forummers having problem with the lens after using it to watch DVD occasionally.





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Like bro Htkaki said, it's just a DVD9. The source could be BD, ripped and then burned as DVD format. The resolution will still be 480p, no matter what. It may look nicer then other DVDs, more colourful, little bit sharper. But that's it, you're actually losing a lot of data, so you're losing the details.

About PS3, you asked that at at shops like HN, etc, right? If I'm the owner, when people come asking for a PS3 as BD player, would I encourage them to go buy it elsewhere because you don't have it? Of course, I would say bad things about it and ask them to by the standalone BD players in my shop instead.

Lens breaking down on PS3 is quite rare actually. I think every optical player have the risk of lens failure. If you give good care and play BDs normally, there's nothing to worry about.

Avoid playing DVDs. Getting from A to B on BD is easier than on DVD, the motor and lens have to move faster on DVD. I never play DVDs on my PS3, a dedicated upscaling DVD player for that (existing).


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Thanks aiman04 and htkaki for replying

But, considering that I only use to play DVD-9 disc.....well...upconversion DVD suit me better....

By the way, how much the Blue-ray disc normally you purchase....normally...cost 130 - 140 per pcs... not affortable la.......quite expensive.... hmm.gif

PS3 will consider in next budget....cause...not suitable for DVD....I can't afford to buy both...my wife will kill me later blush.gif
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If DVD, then DVD with HDMI will do. Plenty of choices out there.

BD is abt RM80 - RM100+ via Amazon and it depends on titles and any promo.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 20 2008, 07:21 AM)
Bitstream (core only) = core = DTS track
S350 : Bitstream all
S550 : Decodes all

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post Jul 21 2008, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(ALPS2008 @ Jul 20 2008, 08:10 PM)
Thanks aiman04 and htkaki for replying

But, considering that I only use to play DVD-9 disc.....well...upconversion DVD suit me better....

By the way, how much the Blue-ray disc normally you purchase....normally...cost 130 - 140 per pcs... not affortable la.......quite expensive.... hmm.gif

PS3 will consider in  next budget....cause...not suitable for DVD....I can't afford to buy both...my wife will kill me later blush.gif
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ya kinda reasonable ma ..

u see those DVD R1 also about tat price


dun tell me u compare to "lulian" durian tongue.gif
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post Jul 21 2008, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 20 2008, 12:49 PM)
Lucky you cabut already. laugh.gif

Just wondering, was there that many titles on HDDVD that has DTS-HD MA?
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I can only think of two titles only, the German release of T2 and Alone In The Dark are both in DTS-MA on hd-dvds. Dolby TrueHD is more common on HD-DVDs than DTS-MA unlike for BDs, all types of audio codecs are used for the movies.
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QUOTE(fentanyl @ Jul 20 2008, 11:46 PM)
S350 : Bitstream all
S550 : Decodes all

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no need to source blu-ray.com when my source is the Sony S350 Blu-ray Disk player manual. It says the player bitstreams dts-hd and dts-hd ma but DTS Core only. And plus dun overstate Core only bitstream.

According to DTS' white paper - the Core track in dts-hd and dts-hd ma = 48hz sampling frequency and up to 1.5mb data rate. dts-hd ma sampling rate is over 100hz while the data rate is several times WAY OVER 1.5mb.

so basically on DTS Core only hd-ma bitstreaming, you are basically getting DTS Core while your receiver's dts-hd ma diod is lighted.

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u are using Sony S350 now?? how's the loading?? biggrin.gif
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wah...mega, wanna bulk S350 or not? knn.. so tempted...
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post Jul 21 2008, 11:08 AM

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We all know what DTS core is lah.. We've been hearing that from DTS-HD MA tracks on PS3 since before firmware 2.35. Nothing new to us. biggrin.gif

This simply means the S350 CANNOT BITSTREAM DTS-HD MA (if the manual says so). Whether it bitstream DTS core or not is irrelevant. icon_rolleyes.gif

So the best choice right now still Panasonic DMP-BD30. nod.gif
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hmm.gif maybe with current firmware the s350 cannot bitstream? Like PS3 need to update it later

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