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Home Theatre Blu ray players: Recommendations please, Blu ray players, which one ?

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post Aug 29 2008, 07:51 AM

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Sony Intros Blu-ray HTIB

Source: http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1721

Sony has announced that they will release the BDV-IT1000 home theater system with Blu-ray support. It will be one of the first systems to support BD-Live and full support of all audio codecs. Additionally, the system will have two HDMI inputs (for your PS3 and HD TiVo) and feature super-slim "pocky" speakers with wireless surrounds. No pricing or release details were announced at this time.

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BDV-IT1000 at a glance:

-- Super-slim speakers made possible by finger-sized full-range drive units
-- All-in-one home cinema system with integrated Blu-ray Disc drive
-- Full HD 1080/24p picture quality with Deep Color and x.v.Colour
-- Wireless rear speakers for great surround effects without cables
-- BD-Live Ready: upgradable to Profile 2.0 for extra content and downloads via Ethernet port
-- DVD upscaling to 1080p
-- Two HDMI input terminals for connection of games consoles, HD TV decoder boxes or other sources, and one HDMI output
-- Optical digital and analogue stereo inputs. Also composite/component video in
-- Upconversion to HDMI for analogue sources
-- Fast, perfect 'one-touch' set-up with Digital Cinema Auto Calibration
-- BRAVIA Sync for integrated operation with other Sony components
-- XrossMediaBar onscreen display for simple, logical operation of all functions
-- Connectivity with Network WALKMAN� and iPod� players, Bluetooth devices and home Wi-Fi networks via DIGITAL MEDIA PORT, plus Portable Audio Enhancer
-- 700W total power: 5x100W plus 2x100W for subwoofer, using efficient, high-quality 32-bit S-Master digital amplification

Note: Thanks to Edvpc who first posted this in the BD thread.


Added on August 29, 2008, 7:55 amSony Announces New ES Blu-ray Player

Source: http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1720

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Sony has announced that they will release a new ES-line Blu-ray Disc player promising the ultimate high definition experience to consumers. The Sony BDP-S5000ES will be BD-Live enabled and feature numerous Sony technologies in order to ensure it provides the best audio and video processing of Blu-ray discs.

On the video side, it will feature an HD Reality Enhancer which continually analyzes the video stream to sharpen edges and reduce film grain. It also increases the 8-bit video depth to 14-bit for better color representation. Additional, the player will feature Sony's Super Bit Mapping which smooths color tones to provide the best video possible over an HDMI connection.

For audio, it will feature decoding and bit streaming of all audio formats. The player will have a high-stability Precision Drive HD transport mechanism in the center position, an ultra-rigid frame and beam chassis to reduce vibration and a low-leakage R-Core transformer - all ensuring the best audio performance. To further increase performance, the audio board has been separated from the video board to remove any electronic noise from transferring to the 7.1 analog outs.

As a BD-Live player, it will come with a Ethernet connection and 1GB flash drive. And like the Sony BDP-S350 and upcoming BDP-S550, it will feature the PlayStation 3's XMB menu system.

No pricing or release date has been announced at this time.


Added on August 29, 2008, 7:58 amDenon Planning BD-Live Blu-ray Player?

Source: http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1718

While Denon's booth at CEDIA will feature their existing line of Blu-ray Disc players/transports - the Panasonic-based DVD-2500BT and DVD-3800BD - the company is currently planning to release a new "flagship" model by March of next year. While no word was given as to what improvements may be incorporated into the player, it is widely expected to be Denon's first BD-Live player.

We'll have more as it becomes available.

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post Sep 15 2008, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Sep 15 2008, 01:06 AM)
My target is Sony S350. Looking at how slow Sony Malaysia is, I don't think I can see it here by end of this year. So I was hoping Amazon got special price for xmas.
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Same here. But not soon. Maybe next year now. biggrin.gif
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NAD Introduces High-end Blu-ray Disc Player

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NAD Electronics has introduced their first Blu-ray Disc player, the NAD T 587. This BD-Live player has the ability display video at 1080p24 as well as decode or bitstream all audio formats. A unique feature of this player is the ability to process both NTSC and PAL standard definition formats, making this an excellent player for imported Blu-ray titles that feature non compliant standard definition content.

Oddly enough, the player will not feature any multi-channel analog outs, meaning that the only way to get high definition audio out of the machine will be through HDMI connection.

The player is expected to hit store shelves next month for an estimated retail price of $1500.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2017
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Nov 5 2008, 08:30 AM)
the player will not feature any multi-channel analog outs - this is very odd... cry.gif
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Very odd indeed. They're forcing old timers to buy new generation receivers. I guess the high-end Pioneer ELITE series is a better choice with gold-plated multichannel anlogue outs.

But wow, loading time in seconds! PS3 is beaten!

"The T 587 has a very fast loading time for Blu-ray Discs, typically just a few seconds. Many BD players take over a minute before you can get picture, sound and navigation. This may not sound like much, but it seems an eternity if you are waiting to start watching your favorite movie."

http://nadelectronics.com/products/dvd-pla...-Player/details

But, erm, look at the price tag. sweat.gif cry.gif

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post Nov 14 2008, 09:03 AM

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Oppo Digital BDP-S83

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Still coming soon, no release date, and no official details yet. But words are it will be Profile 2.0 (notice the ethernet port? And the gold-plated connectors?), with SACD support.
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post Nov 24 2008, 06:14 PM

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BD35 is my target. But no money yet, my wife not letting me sell my PS3. sweat.gif

Boss, can I have my bonus now? cry.gif
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post Nov 24 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(rthj @ Nov 24 2008, 06:32 PM)
aiman.....get the region B BD35.....then no need to sell PS3.....
hmmm..not sure if your wife will like that idea.
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We're in agreement to not sell the PS3, and use it for HD entertainment center/gaming only. I will buy a dedicated standalone player for BD movies. The only thing is I have to find alternative fund for it, that will possibily mean my year end bonus.
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post Dec 5 2008, 08:42 AM

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Blu-ray.com Exclusive: Blu-ray Player Benchmarks

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Power on time:
Measures the time the player takes, in seconds, to power on from the remote control and to convey that it is ready to work via the HDTV display. The lower the number the better.

Disc Eject Time:
This test measures the amount of time it takes, in seconds, for a player to fully eject the disc tray while playing a Blu-ray movie. The lower the number the better.

Movie Load Time – Basic:
Measures the amount of time, in seconds, that a player takes to load a film, encoded without Java or BD+, from the time the disc tray starts closing to the time that content appears on the screen. BD drive speed can impact this number. The lower the number the better.

Movie Load Time - BD-J:
Measures the amount of time a player takes, in seconds, to load a film, encoded with BD-Java, from the time the disc tray starts closing to the time that content appears on the screen. BD drive speed can impact this number. The lower the number the better.

Movie Load Time – BD+:
Measures the amount of time a player takes, in seconds, to load a film, encoded with BD+ copy protection, from the time the disc tray starts closing to the time that content appears on the screen. BD drive speed can impact this number. The lower the number the better.

BD-J Overall Performance:
This measurement calculates the player's overall ability to efficiently execute BD-Java content. This will affect the player's smoothness of menus, games, and other features using BD-J. Some players will not execute this benchmark and are marked with a red “NO” in the performance section. A "NO" rating does not indicate poor performance, but simply that the player in question does not support the form of media that the test disc is recorded on. The higher the number the better.

The following tests measure player's BD-Java graphics abilities. These numbers show how efficient the player will be at loading and navigating menus as well as Java based games.

BD-J Small Object Performance:
Measures smoothness and speed of small Java graphic objects – the higher the number the better.

BD-J Large Object Performance:
Measures smoothness and speed of larger Java graphic objects - the higher the number the better.

BD-J Scaling Performance:
This test measures the player's ability to scale Java graphics for BD menus and games. The higher the number the better.

BD-J Opacity Performance:
This measurement calculates the player's ability to render graphics that are opaque. The higher the number the better.

Blu-ray.com

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post Dec 5 2008, 09:13 AM

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Yup, PS3 has always been the best BD player. But the LG BD300 taking the silver medal is really surprising. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Dec 5 2008, 09:24 AM)
but in term of PQ & AQ on performance side ler? I tot pioneer ELITE should be the best, not sure how good is the new marantz or denon BDP biggrin.gif
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This is just the benchmark for speed performance. I think it's quite hard to benchmark PQ/AQ, it's too subkective to put numbers to it. But from general review, PS3 is still the best, now following closely by BD35/55 and S350/550. The Pioneers and the newer models from denon/Marantz I got no idea.


QUOTE(neoardi @ Dec 5 2008, 09:46 AM)
Wow, LG BD300 knock out others top brand BDP.... rclxms.gif
Got sell here ar? how much? hmm.gif
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Not sure, but without multichannel analogue outs, it's quite expensive at $399 retail price. The specs is almost similar to BD35/S350 which retails at $299.

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Blu-ray.com has put a link to my thread in their news article about the benchmark test.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2138

Click on "Complete Spreadsheet" below the list of players.

Makes me kinda proud. laugh.gif tongue.gif


Added on December 5, 2008, 12:10 pm
QUOTE(nothen_fool @ Dec 5 2008, 11:14 AM)
ps3 is so expensive wor..
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What you talking about bro? The PS3 is only RM1599, it's the cheapest BD player in Malaysia.

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post Dec 6 2008, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 6 2008, 09:10 AM)
I wonder who owned a korean media player which costs over 1k.. just to play mkv.. whistling.gif
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And he's now already looking in the WDTV thread, for a second media center. laugh.gif

By the way, me also got a new toy coming soon. Can't wait. whistling.gif

Htkaki, I read a lot of issue with the Samsung. sweat.gif
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post Dec 11 2008, 10:03 AM

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Received my new toy "dildo" just now from DHL. tongue.gif

Will post again later after everything is set.

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Thanks to Bro Apisgogo for the excellent shipping service.
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post Dec 11 2008, 10:38 AM

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Let me read the manuals first. I always do that for each new stuff. tongue.gif

Apis, no problem, we've done business before. And this is just another successful deal with you. Looking forward for future purchases. thumbup.gif
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For the first time ever, these words on my receiver finally lights up.

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Anfieldude, bitstream rocks! The audio actually feels crispier and adds more weight to it, like the sound stage opened up a bit. And picture seems to have better blacks and sharper than the PS3. It may all just be placebo, but what the heck, I'm enjoying this. rclxm9.gif

Apisgogo and Htkaki, don't wait anymore. Get yours quick! brows.gif

Glau, I got it for US$222 from Amazon with free super-saver shipping to Apisgogo's USA re-shipping address. They re-shipped to me using DHL, the charge is lower than DHL's online price. You can ask Apisgogo for the re-shipping quotes.

Piscesguy, I don't have a good analogue cables to test that yet, not interested to use the cap ayam one that came with the player. tongue.gif

Rthj, yes, free 2 BDs but have to mail in and they will send to US address only. Currently got no one there staying long enough to do it, the offer ends February 2009 I think.

Again, thanks to Apisgogo for making this happen. thumbup.gif


Added on December 11, 2008, 1:06 pmAnd the networking is so easy, just plug the cable and it's all done. Managed to download new firmware update in 10 minutes only. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Dec 11 2008, 01:20 PM)
bro, may i know more details of this player?
how's the loading time? Profile 2.0?
TrueHD and DTS-HD all need to output to AVR? no built-in decoder?
need to get a transformers to transform the voltage? thanks.

seriously thinking of getting one thru apisgogo bro
US$222 is a very good buy indeed thumbup.gif
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1. Details:

http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electro...000000000005702

2. It's Profile 2.0. Loading time:

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3. Yes, can decode all HD codecs internally but only via HDMI (same as PS3, but PS3 can't bitstream). For multichannel analogue outs you'll need BD55.

4. Yes, I bought a 100W stepdown/up transformer from Jln Pasar for RM68. The player actually only uses approximately 20W. (PS3 uses 380W)

I bought from a third party seller at Amazon, 6ave. On the player's page at Amazon, look on your right you'll find choices of third party seller. Good luck bro. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Dec 11 2008, 10:49 PM)
tun aiman...

i canot sleep tonite sad.gif
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You know what to do. brows.gif

QUOTE(jep @ Dec 11 2008, 11:02 PM)
How much bro? incl. shipping  drool.gif
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The player itself is $222. There are many shipping options, Vpost one of them. But I use DHL which a little bit more expensive, but cheaper than DHL's normal quote. Thanks to Apisgogo for the service, you can PM him for more info. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 12 2008, 12:10 AM)
tun aiman elite sial!!!!!!!
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I got it cheap bro, cheaper than the Malaysia Edition PS3. Peasants like me sure can afford it. Your's arriving soon right? whistling.gif

Still thinking whether to sell my PS3 or not.

QUOTE(edbe @ Dec 12 2008, 01:05 AM)
The PS3 uses 140 watts for the 40GB model, not 380 watts actually but it's a huge difference from the power consumed on a dedicated BD player.
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The new 40GB (now with 80GB HDD) uses smaller processor that saves power a little bit, but still high at 140W. My PS3 is the old 80GB model (CHECE), the one with many memory card slots and USBs, PS2 game and SACD compatible.

QUOTE(g5sim @ Dec 12 2008, 03:51 AM)
woowww looks damn chun , con g rats on your early Xmas gift for yourself. Were you taxed by the Custom Office?

looks like a ComGate - Maybank Amex deal tongue.gif
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Cleared from the customs processing in half hour. No tax whatsoever. biggrin.gif

Didn't use ComGate though, it was an almost similar service by our own forumer, Apisgogo. thumbup.gif

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post Dec 12 2008, 10:51 AM

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Yeah, I don't play games, but the real Aiman does. However, he's now busy with the new PSP, that's why I'm considering to sell if I can get a very good price. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(binary @ Dec 12 2008, 10:56 AM)
Bro Aiman, how much you want to sell your PS3 then?  brows.gif
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Don't know yet, not sure if it will be worth it.

BTW, your avatar make my tongue tingling.
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QUOTE(rthj @ Dec 12 2008, 02:41 PM)
aiman..check ebay and see how much people are selling these ps2-backward compatible PS3....should fetch you a good price.


Added on December 12, 2008, 2:42 pmi know at least my colleague wanted to buy mine at new retail price....which was 600euro 3 months ago.
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Interesting. hmm.gif

Thanks for the heads up bro. notworthy.gif

But now my HM is not letting me sell it. That was a preliminary proposal, will talk further tonight.


Added on December 12, 2008, 3:06 pm
QUOTE(anfieldude @ Dec 12 2008, 11:23 AM)
Bro,
Had time to check the 24fps playback for DVD yet?
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My old TV doesn't support 24p playback bro. So, can't test that. The TV is next in my upgrade list. sweat.gif

QUOTE(chinmh @ Dec 12 2008, 12:09 PM)
Bro Aiman,

How's the pana dvd playback compared to PS3? Region locked?
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Haven't tested on DVDs, I don't intend to. I plan to use it as a dedicated BD player only. Already got another DVD player. But yes, it's region locked. You can buy the mod kit to make it region free for both BD and DVD for 88 euro.

QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 12 2008, 01:17 PM)
yea, ur 80gb pricing shud be still ok, i think sell it off at rm 800 shud be fine
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RM800? For you I can give RM200. tongue.gif

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