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rd33
post Oct 30 2008, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 30 2008, 07:42 AM)
Given this 2, I will go with high response time. DVI and HDMI is the same quality anyways, both are digital. Just that DVI cannot carry audio signal like HDMI, but that isn't much of a problem. (Unless you want to use your consoles with HDMI on it, then better get HDMI. Else, stick with the one with better response time.)
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actually nowadays most of the LCD got good response time already......( find LCD that have 5ms response time and below )

while the HDMI depends on the resolution it self.....

if high reso then you will get higher hdmi....
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post Oct 30 2008, 11:55 AM

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???Dude, do you even know what you are talking about?

HDMI is a connector. The availability of it depends on whether the manufacturer decides to include it or not.

A higer resolution and getting a higher HDMI (whatever it is that you meant) has no correlation and that statements only makes it more confusing since it means nothing.
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post Oct 30 2008, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(squaresoft @ Oct 30 2008, 10:47 AM)
hi viperiii, u from kuching also ?? me 2
just now i got see at some shop samsung T220 box pic, got rose-black colour ??. this model Cabinet Color not just 1 colour only ??(Sapphire Black )
i got see some ppl say this model got use 2 panel.
CDA=chimei panel
CAA=samsung panel
most ppl say samsung panel is better.
and got 2 colour LED light for on/off. (red n blue)
blue LED=CAA ??
red LED=CDA??
how to check it ??any idea?? rclxub.gif
thx
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SAMSUNG PANEL is better because SAMSUNG is GENERATION 7 or later (if im not mistaken)
CHIMEI PANEL is 1 about 1 to 2 generation laid behind SAMSUNG. (GENERATION 6) i think..
correct me if i got some mistakes..

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post Oct 30 2008, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(rd33 @ Oct 30 2008, 11:16 AM)
actually nowadays most of the LCD got good response time already......( find LCD that have 5ms response time and below )

while the HDMI depends on the resolution it self.....

if high reso then you will get higher hdmi....
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Yes, most of current LCD got good response, 5ms and below is good enough for normal eye. Unless you have bionic eyes. rolleyes.gif

HDMI actually is intended as an external consumer electronics connection for HDTVs (from article posted by kylinlee). It means HDMI actually for HDTV, DVD/Blu-Ray/HD-DVD player and any external video audio equipment out there. Same like RCA for TV and RGB port for monitor in the old days. But because there are demands for LCD monitor to support HDMI, manufacturer integrate HDMI into their lastest HD LCD Monitor range.

Well, to put it simple, if you don't connect your LCD Monitor to any other electronic device other than your pc, you don't need HDMI. DVI is good enough as it produce the same image quality as hdmi.
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post Oct 30 2008, 02:40 PM

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ok, between lower ms and higher contrast, which one y'all pick?
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post Oct 30 2008, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Oct 30 2008, 11:55 AM)
???Dude, do you even know what you are talking about?

HDMI is a connector. The availability of it depends on whether the manufacturer decides to include it or not.

A higer resolution and getting a higher HDMI (whatever it is that you meant) has no correlation and that statements only makes it more confusing since it means nothing.
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ya i think i got confused also, actually i tot that hdmi = HD lol

but nvm, thx for correcting me doh.gif
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post Oct 30 2008, 09:03 PM

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HDMI = High Definition Multimedia Interface
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post Oct 30 2008, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 29 2008, 09:25 PM)
Anyway Light Bleeding is NOT A MUST HAPPEND right in Samsung Monitor?Only some of bad Monitors will get affected right?
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http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=685892

They talk about backlight bleding..I guess it does happened a lot..

Just my 2 cents smile.gif
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Oct 29 2008, 10:46 PM)
Finally, after months of waiting, I bought a 2253LW.
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Any comments on ur new toy? first impressions?

what's the price like now, in KL/PJ?

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post Oct 30 2008, 10:38 PM

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Guys, can any of you post a sample of screenshot of what does the bleeding looks like?

I got 2253LW here, bought from Thundermatch for RM685.
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post Oct 30 2008, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Oct 30 2008, 10:38 PM)
Guys, can any of you post a sample of screenshot of what does the bleeding looks like?

I got 2253LW here, bought from Thundermatch for RM685.
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Switch off the light completely in ur room while turning on the monitor.
Activate a black blank screen saver or wallpaper.
Look at the edges & corners of ur screen, if got white light bleeding out in the black screen, that's what we call as backlight bleeding
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post Oct 30 2008, 11:23 PM

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Also, you can try use google search picture with "backlight bleeding". I believe there is a lot example.
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post Oct 30 2008, 11:42 PM

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I already see,does it damage the image quality?Maybe i should ask the Shop to test first?Can nia?
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post Oct 31 2008, 12:29 AM

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I dunno if it's possible to get zero backlight bleeding...but my LCDs (acer and dell) have these bleeding...but i hardly notice it.... flex.gif
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post Oct 31 2008, 01:13 AM

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Time to write some review for my Samsung 2253LW (21.6")

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Firstly let me explain that I'm not an expert in LCD Monitor. My knowledge on LCD Monitor is only after a month of reading and researching through internet. This thread helps me a lot. So please note that my review is from my very own personal point of view, cannot be taken as expert advice.

Ok, lets get on.

Price
I bought this monitor for RM700. Yup, higher than any retailer in KL sweat.gif . But after considering the cost of traveling and also postage cost, I think it will be the same plus nearer if anything happen. The warranty is 3 years by Samsung.

Why 21.6" instead of 22" or 24"?
Well, 2253BW (22") priced RM200 higher than 2253LW. The 0.4" is minor and after comparing side by side, I can't see much different. From the spec, both have the same 2ms, 1680 X 1050 resolutions, 8000:1 (DC) 1000:1(Typ), even dimension and the rest of them. The only difference is the weight, 2253LW weighted 0.3kg (6.8kg) more than 2253BW.

Migrating from 17" crt to 22" lcd monitor is really a drastic change for me. 24" give more desktop space but also required more table space. Unfortunate for me, I had to put my lcd monitor on coffee table sweat.gif . Imagine if I buy 24".

A few test...
I read some review on the internet regarding Backlight Bleeding. Some said that it is serious problem for both 2253LW/BW model. So here are my test.

Note : I used Dead Pixel Testing program for testing (go to first page to get one). All setting are set to default value.

First test is Backlight Bleeding. Sadly or may be fortunately, I can see very little backlight bleeding at the top and bottom of the screen cry.gif . The bleeding is very small even when I set brightness to the fullness thumbup.gif . The bleeding was gone when I set to Dynamic Contrast setting with MagicBright function. Personally, I feel that the bleeding is negligible, I can hardly see it. So for those who worry about backlight bleeding on this lcd, don't worry not all lcd face the same problem. If you still worry, when buying, please ask the seller to check for you. I spend almost half an hour in the shop to check everything before deciding to buy it.

Next test is dead pixel. Luckily no dead pixel rclxms.gif . But I also heard some dead pixel will take times to show up, so only time will tell.

I also try to play DMC4 and run a test run. Here the result.
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The maximum resolution I get for this game is only 1280 x 1024. The screen change to 4:3 setting so I have 2 black bar at the left and right side of the screen. I see no ghosting effect.

Text look good to me. Sharp and easy to read.
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Conclusion
The downside is my GC don't support hardware acceleration when the resolution set to 1680x1050 but work perfectly fine when the resolution is lower. I also don't like where they put the setting buttons. The setting buttons are at the bottom side and behind the transparent plastic bar. My hand tired from reaching these button.

But I can fully recommend this LCD monitor to anyone who want 22" lcd monitor with a <RM700 budget. I already checked some of other 22" lcd monitor but I think this LCD is the best bang for money. Just ignore the 0.4" difference from it brother.


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nice one there, qwerty79.

good feedbacks and also some testings.... thumbup.gif

this 2253LW is definitely in my "To-get" list....

cheers!


Added on October 31, 2008, 1:45 ambtw, the price that u got, IMHO, is what LYP vendors are selling...mebbe abit cheaper nia...

so, it's good price, as u don't hace to travel so far...

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post Oct 31 2008, 02:28 AM

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BENQ VS DELL (which one is better)?
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post Oct 31 2008, 02:52 AM

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Depend on what model. But I will pick Dell if get money for their good warranty and services.
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post Oct 31 2008, 03:37 AM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 30 2008, 10:49 PM)
Switch off the light completely in ur room while turning on the monitor.
Activate a black blank screen saver or wallpaper.
Look at the edges & corners of ur screen, if got white light bleeding out in the black screen, that's what we call as backlight bleeding
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Yeah, I did that and dunno if I'm lucky or not, didn't see any bleeding so far.
Got it work up to it's max reso and so far satisfied with it. smile.gif
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post Oct 31 2008, 03:46 AM

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Mine also hard to notice. Need to look carefully to find it.

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