About the Club

Real Madrid Club de Fútbol (commonly known as Real Madrid or Madrid) is a Spanish sports club best known for its football team. It is the most successful team in the world and has even been named "The Best Club of the 20th Century" by FIFA in 2000, having won a record 31 La Liga titles, 17 Spanish Cups, a record 9 European Cups and 2 UEFA Cups. Founded in 1902, Real Madrid has since spent all of its history in the top flight of Spanish football. The club's home colours are their legendary all white and they play their home games at the 80,354-capacity Santiago Bernabéu football stadium. Unlike most European football clubs, Real Madrid's members (socios) have owned and operated the club since its inception.

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The Crest



The first crest of Real Madrid had a simple design consisting of a decorative interlacing of the three initials of the club, "MCF" for Madrid Club de Fútbol, in dark blue on a white shirt. The first change in the crest occurred in 1908 when the letters adopted a more streamlined form and appeared inside a circle. The next change in the configuration of the crest did not occur until the presidency of Pedro Parages in 1920. At that time, King Alfonso XIII granted the club his royal patronage which came in the form of the title "Real", roughly translated as "Royal". Thus, the crown was added to the crest and the club styled itself Real Madrid Club de Fútbol. With the dissolution of the monarchy in 1931, all the royal symbols (the crown on the crest and the title of Real) were eliminated. The crown was replaced by the dark mulberry band of the Region of Castile. In 1941, two years after the end of the Civil War, the "Real Corona", or "Royal Crown", was restored while the mulberry stripe of Castile was retained as well. In addition, the whole crest was made full color, with gold being the most prominent, and the club was again called Real Madrid Club de Fútbol. The most recent modification to the crest occurred in 2001 when the club wanted to better situate itself for the twenty-first century and further standardize its crest. One of the modifications made was changing the mulberry stripe to a more bluish shade.

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The Stadium



After moving between grounds the team moved to the "Campo de O'Donnell" in 1912, which remained its home ground for eleven years. The club then moved for one year to the Campo de Ciudad Lineal, a small ground with a capacity of 8,000 spectators. After that, Real Madrid moved its home matches to Estadio Chamartín which was inaugurated on 17 May 1923 with a match against Newcastle United. In this stadium, which hosted 22,500 spectators, Real Madrid celebrated its first Spanish league title.

After some successes, the 1943 elected president Santiago Bernabéu decided that the Estadio Chamartín was not big enough for the ambitions of the club. Work on the grounds started on October 27, 1944. Originally called Estadio Chamartín as well after Madrid's previous stadium, it was inaugurated in December 1947. Real Madrid officially adopted the present name, Estadio Santiago Bernabéu, on January 4, 1955 in honor of the club president Santiago Bernabéu. The first match held on the Bernabéu was played between Real Madrid and the Portuguese club Belenenses and won by The Whites with 3–1, the first goal being scored by Sabino Barinaga.

The capacity has changed frequently, peaking at 120,000 after a 1953 expansion. Since then, there have been a number of reductions due to modernizations (the last standing places went away in 1998–99 in response to UEFA regulations which forbids standing at matches in the UEFA competition), countered to some extent by expansions. The last change was an increase of about five thousand to a capacity of 80,354, effected in 2003.

The Santiago Bernabéu has recently been upgraded to Elite Football Stadium status by UEFA and even has its own Madrid Metro station along the 10 line. The stadium has hosted the 1964 European Championship final, the 1982 FIFA World Cup final, the 1957, 1969 and 1980 European Cup finals and is due to host the 2010 Champions League Final.

Capacity: 80,354
Length: 107 m
Width: 72 m
Surface: Grass
First match: Real Madrid vs. Os Belenenses (Portugal)
Address: Avenida de Concha Espina 1, E28036

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The Kit



Real Madrid's traditional home colours are all white. The clubs' nicknames "Los Blancos" ("The Whites") and "Los Merengues" (after the dessert meringue) were influenced by it. The kit initially adopted a blue oblique stripe on the shirt; but unlike today, dark blue socks were worn. The striped shirt was replaced by an all-white version, modeled after the shirt worn by Corinthian F.C. in 1902. In the same year, the blue socks were replaced by black ones. By the early 1940s the manager changed the kit again by adding the club's crest on the left breast (which have remained ever since). On 23 November 1947, in a game against Atlético Madrid at the Metropolitano Stadium, Real Madrid became the first Spanish team to wear numbered shirts.

Madrid's traditional away colours are all black or all purple. The club's kit is currently manufactured by Adidas and their current shirt sponsor is bwin.com.

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This post has been edited by verx: Aug 25 2009, 05:57 AM

Squad List 2009/10

1 Iker Casillas
2
3 Pepe
4 Sergio Ramos
5 Fernando Gago
6 Lassana Diarra
7 Raul Gonzalez
8 Kaka
9 Cristiano Ronaldo
10 Wesley Sneijder
11 Arjen Robben
12 Marcelo
13
14 Jose Maria Gutierrez
15 Royston Drenthe
16
17 Ruud Van Nistelrooy
18 Raul Albiol
19
20 Gonzalo Higuain
21 Christoph Metzelder
22 Miguel Torres
23 Rafael Van der Vaart
24
25 Jerzy Dudek

No Numbers:
Mahamadou Diarra
Ezequiel Garay
Karim Benzema
Esteban Granero
Alvaro Arbeloa
Xabi Alonso


Fixtures 2009/10

July 2009
20/07 Pre-season Friendly - Shamrock Rovers (A) [1 - 0] (Benzema)
26/07 Peace Cup 2009 - Al-Ittihad (H) [1 - 1] (Raul)
28/07 Peace Cup 2009 - Liga Universitaria de Quito (H) [4 - 2] (Ronaldo, Granero, Metzelder, Negredo)
31/07 Peace Cup 2009 - Juventus F.C. (N) [1 - 2] (Ronaldo)

August 2009
07/08 Pre-season Friendly - Toronto F.C. (A) [5 - 1] (Raul x2, Ronaldo, Benzema, Robben)
09/08 Pre-season Friendly - D.C. United (A) [3 - 0] (Higuain x2, Robben)
15/08 Real Sociedad Centenary - Real Sociedad (A) [2 - 0] (Benzema, Sneijder)
19/08 Borussia Dortmund Centenary - Borussia Dortmund (A) [5 - 0] (Granero, Robben, Higuain, Kaka, Raul)
24/08 Santiago Bernabeu Trophy - Rosenborg B.K. (H) [4 - 0] (Benzema x2, Lass, Raul)
30/08 Spanish Primera Liga - Deportivo La Coruna (H)

September 2009
13/09 Spanish Primera Liga - R.C.D. Espanyol (A)
20/09 Spanish Primera Liga - Xerez C.D. (H)
23/09 Spanish Primera Liga - Villarreal C.F. (A)
27/09 Spanish Primera Liga - C.D. Tenerife (H)

October 2009
04/10 Spanish Primera Liga - Sevilla F.C. (A)
18/10 Spanish Primera Liga - Real Valladolid C.F. (H)
25/10 Spanish Primera Liga - Real Sporting de Gijon (A)

November 2009
01/11 Spanish Primera Liga - Getafe C.F. (H)
08/11 Spanish Primera Liga - Atletico Madrid (A)
22/11 Spanish Primera Liga - Racing Santander (H)
29/11 Spanish Primera Liga - F.C. Barcelona (A)

December 2009
06/12 Spanish Primera Liga - U.D. Almería SAD (H)
13/12 Spanish Primera Liga - Valencia C.F. (A)
20/12 Spanish Primera Liga - Real Zaragoza (H)

January 2010
03/01 Spanish Primera Liga - Osasuna (A)
10/01 Spanish Primera Liga - R.C.D. Mallorca (H)
17/01 Spanish Primera Liga - Athletic Bilbao (A)
24/01 Spanish Primera Liga - Malaga C.F. (H)
31/01 Spanish Primera Liga - Deportivo La Coruna (A)

February 2010
07/02 Spanish Primera Liga - R.C.D. Espanyol (H)
14/02 Spanish Primera Liga - Xerez C.D. (A)
21/02 Spanish Primera Liga - Villarreal C.F. (H)
28/02 Spanish Primera Liga - C.D. Tenerife (A)

March 2010
07/03 Spanish Primera Liga - Sevilla F.C. (H)
14/03 Spanish Primera Liga - Real Valladolid C.F. (A)
21/03 Spanish Primera Liga - Real Sporting de Gijon (H)
24/03 Spanish Primera Liga - Getafe C.F. (A)
28/03 Spanish Primera Liga - Atletico Madrid (H)

April 2010
04/04 Spanish Primera Liga - Racing Santander (A)
11/04 Spanish Primera Liga - F.C. Barcelona (H)
14/04 Spanish Primera Liga - U.D. Almería SAD (A)
18/04 Spanish Primera Liga - Valencia C.F. (H)
25/04 Spanish Primera Liga - Real Zaragoza (A)

May 2010
02/05 Spanish Primera Liga - Osasuna (H)
05/05 Spanish Primera Liga - R.C.D. Mallorca (A)
09/05 Spanish Primera Liga - Athletic Bilbao (H)
16/05 Spanish Primera Liga - Malaga C.F. (A)

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Honours:

Spanish La Liga (31):
1931/32, 1932/33, 1953/54, 1954/55, 1956/57, 1957/58, 1960/61, 1961/62, 1962/63, 1963/64, 1964/65, 1966/67, 1967/68, 1968/69, 1971/72, 1974/75, 1975/76, 1977/78, 1978/79, 1979/80, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2002/03, 2006/07, 2007/08

Copa del Rey/Generalísmo (17):
1904/05, 1905/06, 1906/07, 1907/08, 1916/17, 1933/34, 1935/36, 1945/46, 1946/47, 1961/62, 1969/70, 1973/74, 1974/75, 1979/80, 1981/82, 1988/89, 1992/93

Copa de la Liga (1):
1984/85

Supercopa de España (8):
1947, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1993, 1997, 2001, 2003

Intercontinental Cup/FIFA World Club Championships (3):
1960, 1998, 2002

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (9):
1955/56, 1956/57, 1957/58, 1958/59, 1959/60, 1965/66, 1997/98, 1999/00, 2001/02

UEFA Cup (2):
1984/85, 1985/86

European Super Cup (1):
2002

Club Records:

Most consecutive wins: 15 (1960/61)
Most goals in a season: 107 (1989/90)
Most home goals in a season: 78 (1989/90)
Most points in a league season: 80 (2000/01)
Most appearances for the club: Sanchís (710)
Longest serving manager: Miguel Muñoz (1959-1974)
Player with most league titles won: Paco Gento (12)
Player with most European Cups: Paco Gento (6)
Highest scorer in a season: Hugo Sanchez, 38 (1989/90)
Most home wins in a season: 18 (1987/88)
Most consecutive away wins: 7 (1960/61)
Only team to play entire season undefeated: 1931/32
President with most league titles: Santiago Bernabéu (16)
Manager with most league titles: Miguel Muñoz (9)
Longest time undefeated at home: 8 years (121 games, from 1957 to 1965)

History

1902-1920
To be continued

This post has been edited by verx: Jun 21 2008, 09:25 PM

******Reserved*******

LOL......ey u like from jungle wehh....which china village u come from?? ......why not buy star player?? they're good....its an experiment....if good in RM then good la...if not goo then we sell la ...like wat happen to cicinho....who is there oni 1 season.....wat r u complaining weh?? .....who r u to judge RM ......Arsenal is good i admit...tats only 1 season....how long can they last?? wat they win last season?? ....past 2 seasons? .......and i doubt they can even qualify for next sesason if blatter implement his quota rule.....how many english players in Arsenal?....how did RM get so rich?? who won 5 UCL in a row?? .....who is the top winners of Spanish La liga? ....china man like u shud rot in china...not here...

wtf with him?
why anti RM ?
they are good team anyway. win La Liga twice in a row.

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Added on June 21, 2008, 10:23 pmshenshenshen. dont blame arsenal.
he may not be arsenal fan i think. just stoopid football fans.

This post has been edited by sOuLx: Jun 21 2008, 10:23 PM

sorry bro...i post my post without consideration though....but cannot tahan with him la...zzzz.....well RM is my secondary club ....so wud wanna def RM here as well...

just ignore him/her la , not even worth mentioning

So fast, another new thread ?

congrats ! new thread for new season soon.. viva Real Madrid..

This post has been edited by zeronehza: Jun 21 2008, 10:40 PM

anybody wants to report this guy?
maybe he has duplicate account.

if this is fast then how about man utd thread? and other epl club?

u dun have to wait, just report him

This post has been edited by MADReaLJL: Jun 21 2008, 11:03 PM

just ignore 'it'... hahahaha.. really unethical stoopidd noob..

Hala Madrid! (eagerly awaiting Ronaldo's press conference)

You guys rather sacrifice Sneijder for Ronaldo?

God for the last time I seriously dunno where u get this shit from. The Sun? Yeah. Great source
Sneijder is not for sale and he doesn't want to leave the club. If there's anyone we would sell to get some cash it would be Robinho.

Chill Verx, Robinho aint performing well at RM? Sorry didn follow La Liga much.

I'm not sure whether United wants Robinho or not. Huhu, my take is I don't want him at United. Rather have Ramos or maybe Casillas? One can only dream ...

Robinho performed well in the 1st half of the season before his injury. The reason why we're considering selling him is because he has a high market value compared to our other players. It wouldn't make much financial sense to sell Sneijder just one year into his Madrid career when we spent 27 mil on him already.

We don't have to sell to United. We can easily sell him to another club and pay full for Ronaldo. It doesn't make a diff to me. Ramos and Casillas? Haha. Good luck with that

Yeah, definitely one can only dream..i totally agreed with that

btw, new thread, new spirit, new ambition, new player cant wait for the new season

And that means you might have to pay around £80million for Ronaldo for the deal to go through? Hey, I would be glad if United can get around that amount of money for Ronaldo. Some even said that Ronaldo is worth around £100million?

What a bull from The Sun. Haha.

Ronaldo is worth around £100million ? That will be too much. I think £50-£60million is reasonable.

mark the thread as spanish club please.

Those are ridiculous figures. Zidane's world record fee was only 46 million GBP. The figure I think would be ard 90 million euros which is roughly 71 million GBP. Only Man Utd fans have this fantasy idea that he is worth 100 million GBP

yes, always bull from thesun especially with this news
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1323017.ece

anyhow, £100m is a ridiculous amount u can buy one epl club from it and not to mention the whole malaysian league ...i dont think calderon would be stupid enough to secure the transfer with that amount ...i've only seen 91m euros from madrid to offer united like what verx stated

This post has been edited by miccy: Jun 22 2008, 11:06 PM

again, one can only dream

nothing is impossible anyways nowadays with the reluctantness of united to accept the bid maybe £100m is somehow a reasonable price just like the zidane's case in 2001 and the glazers can clear their heads off the debts

This post has been edited by miccy: Jun 22 2008, 11:17 PM

David Villa admits he would consider leaving Valencia, if the Primera Liga side agreed to sell him.
The Spaniard has become one of the most-wanted strikers in Europe following his goalscoring exploits at Euro 2008 and Chelsea, Tottenham, Real Madrid and Barcelona are all thought to be considering summer bids.

Well, I would rather have Villa than Ronaldo.. Anyway, we have to wait until the EURO ends or maybe until tonight's game ..

To set the stage for Ronaldo's impending arrival here's a preview of Ronaldo. I'll get the ball rolling with some pictures courtesy of the Sun.































This post has been edited by Soulsareworthless: Jun 23 2008, 03:27 AM

casillas was cool! ramos was solid against toni! well done espanyol!

Casillas !!

not espanyol lorrr. ESPANA should be...
espanyol is another team in la liga

LOL.....but i tot in english Spain last time was known as espanyol...anyways........hala espana!!!!!!!!!

i hope.. we can get both.. villa and CR7.. and more important thing is.. hopefully all-star-team-disease wont be repeated..

IF Villa and Ronaldo does join RM, what number they're gonna wear? Both wore no.7 right now and Raul is still playing for another few more seasons.

What a brilliant stunt by Casillas.. Once again he prove that he's not from this planet.. Ramos was good but he can be better.. If spain can go on slightly better than yesterday performance, I can't see why they not gonna lift the Euro Cup this time.. As I expected Villa and Torres partnership did crack a bit ( due to the Italians solid back four) .. No clear cut chance for both of them, but one can truly see that Villa done better in terms of off the ball run but his MFs failed to provide.. Silva is growing in his game, lack of accuracy but enough power which force Buffon to make several dives in both bottom corner of his post.. Last night's Italy is a team that physically strong but short of creativity(due to Pirlo's suspension IMO).. while the Spaniards was quite good in terms of creativity but lacks physical attributes which lead to several easy crush of La Roja's hope of penetration..

Anyway, I'm happy to see the penalty shootout ended in Spain's favor cause now the whole world is aware of casillas's greatness.. To beat buffon in penalty shootout and also made several heart pounding dives throughout the 120 minutes will surely opened a lot of EPL fans eyes!.. He's always there when we needed him the most! truly a hero!


Maybe Villa go for no 9 and Ronaldo will take the no 17 as it is useless with Soldado wearing it.. But anyway, the logic is if Ronaldo did make into our squad than there will be no more forward signings.. Think bout this, two of the best performers + Madrid cantera heroes + remaining players in one squad.. Sounds to me we going to that same old galacticos shit again.. The player's egos will mount in the dressing room.. Surely that's not what Senor Calderon is looking for..

This post has been edited by gto87: Jun 23 2008, 04:17 PM

The Galactico project didn't fail unlike Barca's current Galactico project which failed because there were too many huge egos to please. We simply had the Zidanes and Pavons problem, half the team made of superstars and the other half of nobody's. There needs to be balance which we do have now. Ronaldo will fit in quite nicely.

And we will not get Villa as there is only enough money to buy Ronaldo. We are taking a gamble with a single world class striker in RVN. Let's hope Saviola who is quickly becoming the forgotten man will step up next season.

It was a failed project imo. The only thing it succeeded was to put us on another level in terms of global recognition. Although we did win trophies for the first few years, as Fiorentino continued on with his project, the more the club deviated from its ideals and you could see the team lose its way so to speak.

We've since then returned to our traditional ways while still maintaining our global appeal so it was like a growing stage that the club had to go through. But if this Ronaldo transfer occurs it would be a very different situation compared to the galactico days. We aren't sacrificing our squad depth this time around and the team is more united than at any time during those days.

dude...80 million we can buy many players.........wonder why shud we stuck with ronaldo.....( i dun mind him coming but its the amount of money tats worrying me)..............................

bcoz its RM's natural attitude of "must get wat they want"

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edited.. i tot this is man utd forum.. sorry 1000x

This post has been edited by MADReaLJL: Jun 24 2008, 10:39 PM

Hola fellow Madridistas . . It's been a while didn't drop by.

Seems everyone in Euro 2008 fever . . Of course, Espana! San Casillias has done it again!

Btw, how's the website goin' on? Fellow Admins (Miccy & Verx)

How the hell you don't take Galacticos as a failure.. Yes we won several cups at the beginning but at that moment we're the greatest with some of the world class players together.. It was until Zidane that we are invincibles but after that it's beginning to fade away.. All those glories are the topic of yesteryear and now people will only recall madrid's name in the summer because we have the tradition of making the most shocking summer transfers..

We have a squad that have a very tight bond.. With Ronaldo introduced in the squad, the bonding will fade away when Ronaldo cast his ego spell in each and every heart of Madrid's player.. Sooner or later it'll be like the second successive self destruction plan and we Madridistas continue being frustrated with another god knows how many years of cup drought..
But on the other hand, he can help us win titles, that's for sure but that doesn't indicate that he's the only one that can land us titles.. Any other superstar also can do that, just to be left out of this topic only because lack of publicity.. Before Russia knock out Holland from the quarter finals, how many people do you think knows the name Arshavin? He's the perfect example of my explanation here.. Now everybody wish to have him in their squad..

This post has been edited by gto87: Jun 25 2008, 01:53 AM

u sound very matured and have very good points ... must remember ronaldo is quite huge ... i as man utd also disappointed in the interview he had after the champs league ... instead of thanking god and vds saving the pens .. he was talking abt the goal he scored ... anyways best of luck to madrid of getting him ... hopefully can get 100mil euro .. that is like wow ... lol ...

I didn't say the Galactico project isn't a failure, it is. All I'm saying is that it failed not because there were too many egos too please but because of the squad which was put together were merely a collection of individuals.

I agree with Verx that the Galactico project was a growing phase which has now brought us the top of the money league. I would hate to see three barren seasons go to waste if we end up not the most financially powerful club in the near future therefore I think we need Ronaldo to maintain our status quo.

I don't see why Ronaldo's ego would destroy the team as a unit. He is very professional as a player and he trains as hard as the best of them. Raul will definitely approve of his work ethic for instance. Besides all great players have big egos. There's no exception to the rule.

You don't see why? Let say all our midfielders and wingers are in top form and some of them have to sit on the bench for a long time just because we depend too much on Ronaldo, you think our dressing room will be the same like now? It's not a big if.. Things did happen to us when Figo wants his position back but Madrid decided to let Beckham play almost all the game which by the way led Figo's departure.. Another thing is Ronaldo is a very hardworker and never seems to be easily satisfied with his achievement even his development is almost down to perfection.. So he will never let his place robbed by somebody like Robben or Robinho(if he stays with us).. Some players will back those two and our management and the other half of players will back ronaldo.. So things will turn from heaven to hell sooner or later.. It's not a big "if" I'm talking about.. This is a fact that will happen to any clubs that that holds many star players..

I know where you're coming from but the fact is even with everybody in top form we don't have many options on the right. Robinho and Robben prefer to play on the left. And Robben is injured half the time. Robinho has a more disruptive ego imo and seeing that Robben got some playing time off of him, he had a chance there to show his dissatisfaction but chose not to; although now he's saying that he wouldn't mind leaving. That's also another reason why I wouldn't mind selling Robinho and if he really was sold then I don't really see a problem with Ronaldo coming in. If Ronaldo comes and starts performing nobody is going to complain.

That's the point man, if Ronaldo is going to perform for us and keep others out of the starting line up, who's going to complain? It's like you're saying Ronaldo should not come because he's too good.

I agree with you lots. I don't see any problems with Ronaldo to fit in Madrid's system. Yes, dissatisfaction happens when a club with big-big stars are unable to play. But as what have verx and soulsareworthless said, if Ronaldo managed to perform week in week out, I don't think that anyone would ever complain. As per usual, club is bigger than anyone. The irony is, Ronaldo thinks he's bigger than United. Well, that's what the tabloids had printed. We will see some 'real rumors' soon enough.

The things is, with Ronaldo in our squad, it doesn't mean that we have an option on the right as Ronaldo play the
same role as did by Drenthe, Robben and Robinho.. If Schuster push Ronaldo to play as a SS/AMF in order to give Robinho or Robben (assuming that drenthe will still be left out) a chance to play, they might be filling the gap on the right but the three cantera's product(granero, Javi garcia, De la red) will be left out for quite a long time until an injury come between Ronaldo, Robben or Robinho.. I know those cantera's play a different role compared to these 3Rs but IMO schuster won't change his decision and formation just to give these guys some chance to play(same happen to saviola and Soldado and drenthe).. Maybe they will play in the spanish Super Cup but don't you think they deserve better than that?

Ronaldo's transfer is only a matter of time now, but Robinho and drenthe's departure seems to be uncertain..We'll have a bunch of world class talents in the same position playing the similar kind of gameplay.. don't you think that gonna cause a chaos in our team? -that's my main point-..

Another thing is, by doing so we will ruin a bunch of players career! Don't you it's a bit cruel for them.. As a footballer I see this things in a serious way. No Madridista wants to hear people labeling us the "career devastating club"..

So to sort things out, we have to sell Robinho+let drenthe on loan or something(Robben can play as a RW) in order to purchase Ronaldo, so that we don't ruin the young souls that just came to our holy land!


off topic -- Frankly speaking, even if Ronaldo doesn't come I've been losing more and more respect for Robinho. The player who fought his boyhood club to leave and now is ready to departure just b/c he aren't paid a couple of months after he finally done some right things for the club.. WTH


You said it, how if he thinks he's bigger than us if let say his 1st year in Madrid he pull of the same level as his last season achievement with ManU? Hey it's good thing but somehow I can see this kinda attitude gonna annoy some of our players and fans a bit.. Finally, would you be still supporting him if he done the same thing like he did to ManU in this past few weeks?

This post has been edited by gto87: Jun 25 2008, 08:45 PM

I thought is has been his dream to play in Spain? He reiterated the statement for a couple of times already. As a United fan, I know'd that he'd leave us someday as he is not United material as Rooney is. Well. at least I thought so. But, when the tabloids printed out that he wanted to leave A.S.A.P. and that caused ruckus esp. among the fans.

I can't really predict what will happen in the future but playing in Spain has always been one of his wishes. So, I don't think that he'll betray Madrid.

CRonaldo:" I have dreams ... but some dreams comes true and sometimes it does not..."

This saga is still hanging by a thin line. It's not entirely down to Ronaldo you know. Even if he says he wishes to joing RM, he would still need to wait for United's decision.

i agree.. the galacticos age is a failure.
almost half of the team is reluctant to run during the match.
imagine, when becks is still at RM, he's rated one of the TOP MILEAGE RUNNING RM player in the field BY FAR. the others are walking or crawling i guess.

zidane is magical, but dint bring much to the team.
i would prefer Luis Figo a lot more. but his age took him away...
n they sell him for free...

ronaldo could prolly follow up what Figo left behind in RM.
players to sell in RM, i think robinho is the most posible one.

plays good attking football last season.
but his attitude..... really troubles me.
since he still have the value.

i was kinda wondering, who would be sacrifice from the starting line up since, Ronaldo shud be signing in for 1st team. not super sub.

here's something for reference:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_3734692,00.html



This post has been edited by ahnien: Jun 26 2008, 02:57 AM

I thought our lack of options on the right flank were quite evident this season which was why Schuster opted a asymmetrical 4-4-2/4-3-3 style. We played with only one winger most of the time and we left Ramos with alot of work to do on the right flank. Replacing Robinho with Ronaldo would be a good way to balance the squad. And even if Robinho doesn't leave we can just modify the formation by giving Raul less minutes. It's this flexibility that would be key to our next season. Competition for places are never a bad thing imo. The players know they are playing for the biggest club in the world after all.

And you're wrong when u assumed the cantera players we brought back would compete for those places. All 3 of them are central midfield players which would mean they would be competing with the likes of Gago, Sneijder, Guti and Diarra.

As for Saviola, Soldado, and Drenthe, do u really think they are good enough to be starting for us? As I said they know who they are playing for. It's up to them whether they want to stay and accept getting minimal minutes or they can easily request for a transfer. That's how football is. Don't get me wrong; I like Drenthe for instance. But the most important thing is for the club to succeed. You just have to take a look at Man Utd's squad and see the depth they have especially in midfield. That's what it takes for a big club to be successful.

This is just a case of ppl seeing what they want to see. If u ask me every club is pretty much the same. Some players will succeed, some will not and u won't know which will so u got to cast your net as wide as possible so to speak.

I won't lose respect for a player who thinks about his future. He has every right to. No big deal imo.

I don't see how Ronaldo thinks he's bigger than Man Utd. If anything it's that he feels he's achieved all he can at Manchester and sees this as an opportunity to join his dream club; the club he supported as a boy. I think MU have played their cards pretty cleverly and have managed to portray Ronaldo in a bad light to their fans in order to prepare them for a sale that might happen. That's just my opinion.

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Added on June 26, 2008, 10:47 amLatest transfer news:
We have sold Balboa to Benfica for 6ME. Good price

This post has been edited by verx: Jun 26 2008, 10:47 AM

Yeah it's quiet evident we have a big hole on the right and my point is even with Ronaldo we won't able to fill the gap b/c Ronaldo plays the same position on the left flank.. We actually improvising that position.. Am I wrong here? Can you explain a bit how we gonna fill the right flank with Ronaldo in the squad maybe I don't get your idea yet..

Haha, you got me wrong totally.. IMO everybody agrees on watching Ronaldo+Robinho+Robben+sneijder+Gago in the MF position.. So to make it possible, Schuster might have to change the formation or somebody's position.. For me, he will change Ronaldo to play as a SS/AMF (CR7 done it in ManU) so that there is room for Robben and Robinho to fill the gap on the right and left.(they'll switch throughout the match).. So this will left Granero, Javi Garcia, De La Red, Guti, Diarra competing for only 2 position in the starting line up.. It's good to have backup, but to have a lot of them is a waste actually.. That's what I meant.. Maybe I'm wrong but there's still a slight possibilities to happen right?

Finally....

The way I see it is that we currently have 3 players who are more comfortable on the left flank: Robinho, Robben and Drenthe. Schuster has normally opted to play Raul and RVN upfront with just 1 winger leaving the right flank almost empty. He has tried Higuain on the right at times but it was clear it wasn't his best position. Balboa have got a few mins playing there as well but he's not good enough to start. With Ronaldo coming in we suddenly have a natural right footer who is comfortable playing on the right. He won't be just stuck on the right of course but the fact that he can play there brings alot more balance to the side. We can play 1 upfront with 2 players on the flanks for instance. We will be able to stretch defences better that way.

I don't think we'll play a flat 4 in midfield. Schuster normally played with 3 in the centre (with 1 being the anchor). So there would be 3 positions for them to compete but I have a feeling 1 of them might be sold by the end of the transfer window. Let's just wait and see what happens

That is what you think? Having 4 more years of contract and playing 'cat and mouse' with the club and fans is what makes him bigger than the club. Nothing wrong with having ambitions but please please please proceed it properly. Don't play around with fans and club.

If it wasn't for SAF and the staffs plus the fans, I'm not sure whether Ronaldo will be where he is now. He has talent, no doubt but I would think he would be a different player if he still stays in Lisbon. Well, that's my opinion.

Surely got the word out of my mouth.. Thanks.. But, this topic is pointless for some Madridistas that really don't care about the players attitude..

Well to be fair he hasn't said anything concrete as of yet. And the length of contract means nothing. That's why there is a TRANSFER FEE. And I'm curious as to what would constitute as proceeding properly? It was going to be ugly either way with SAF adamant he doesn't want to sell him and Ronaldo hoping to fulfil his dream.

That's a ridiculous notion. With his talent he wouldn't have stayed at Lisbon very long anyway. And Man Utd doesn't have some secret training method to make Ronaldo who he is today. He is what he is because of his dedication and determination to be the best. That's his biggest quality imo not the fancy dribbles and all that stuff.

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Added on June 26, 2008, 9:54 pmFat Ronaldo, Cassano; they had attitude problems. I personally don't think C Ronaldo would be a problem.

This post has been edited by verx: Jun 26 2008, 09:54 PM

No offense but the only club noticed Ronaldo back then was none the other of Liverpool if I'm not mistaken. However, we managed to sign him.

What I meant by proceeding properly is payback the faith and trust that the fans dan United staffs had given to him.

And yes, I would still have doubts over his quality if he didn't joined United. Unless he went either to Barcelona or Arsenal.

I thought it was Arsenal

Btw, nice Unite against Racism announcement/oath by Casillas

Ramos is currently shackling Arshavin superbly

where was Ronaldo before two years ago? Just a little trick pony with poor finishing..

Euro 2008 Best GoalKeeper : Iker Casillas

Who is more deserving to this tittle more than Casillas???


No player should get tied up in a team
C.R7 now feel he have achieved all he can in MU and want a new challenge

if not why he would wanna go to others club if he wanna stay in MU no clubs can unsettled him

This post has been edited by haruyip: Jun 27 2008, 12:28 PM

i dont know why madrid not interested to sign silva.. he's good to me..even maybe better n understand more about la liga game play (my opinion).. ang he's price oso not as mountain as CR7.. huhu..

silva is left back.. real already has many left back.. robben .. robinho... drenthe..

so CR really suits for right flank then.

AFAIk drenthe aside, all the players u listed above are playing on left wing instead of left back rite??

errr....silva plays Atking midfield and only play left as secondary position ......robben is left wing ....robinho (back in santos) natural position is either striker or atking midfielder..........drenthe is the only left back in the list.........

Because the most expensive players are always the cheapest. Ronaldo is worth an estimated 500 million Euros in marketing income if he was to sign a 5 year deal.

Ya,and Real can make a lot of profit from him oso..like beckham

ESPANA EURO2008 CAMPEONES!!!!!!

It's been a great Euro 2008 for Madrid players

This post has been edited by verx: Jun 30 2008, 05:01 AM

feel sorry for Raul he couldn't get to celebrate it

he can play as a left winger or left back for holland and his former club feyenoord

btw.. congrat for casillas and ramos bring spain for the champion..

Agreed. Only exception was that Holland didn't reach the semis to face Spain. Saint Iker has never ever disappointed me and Ramos continued to improve throughout the tournament.

hmm mind ask u guys wat shirt ramos wearing? who's pic is it?

It's a picture of Antonio Puerta, Ramos' good friend and former teammate at Sevilla.

ohhh...icic....and i tot he was bearing the mexican flag around hes belly....cos its green and white so i tot hes got some connection to mexico or smtg...LOL....

Robinho Upset With Madrid Over Ronaldo

After revealing this week that his client was aware of a bid in the works from Chelsea, Robinho's agent, Vágner Ribeiro, has added that the Brazilian is disappointed at his treatment during 'Ronaldogate'...

actually Madrid would be better off if they treat robinho more as a valued player. robinho is comparable to ronaldo in skills...

but robinho has been having disciplinary problems with the team.
so if he behave himself n plays as his salary pays him...

he shud be fine

I've been following this rumors about Robinho for quite a time and to be honest at first I was almost lost my respect towards him.. But now, I feel pity for him.. It's like Madrid's didn't even TRY to pay a little bit of respect to Robinho.. things just getting from bad to worst and to be treated as a bargaining chip must hurt him a lot.. No need to elaborate his contribution as he been quite heroic earlier last season..

well robinho's story is quite sad..he was one of the world's best player ....i duno if the rotation in coaches is the cause of tis...but hes having a great season with madrid last season and i think hes going to leave for chelsea soon , cos madrid showed little respect towards him...as to compare him to ronaldo ... i still thinks a few season later...he can be as good as ronaldo or even better...he jus lacks hes form...

though... i mentioned earlier that robinho deserve some respect from madrid. i believe on his end, he do need to tighten up his own partying nights.

its more of a win win situation if both madrid n robinho respect each other.

the news is up that chelsea is closing down on robinho.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...=europe&cc=3888



This post has been edited by ahnien: Jul 2 2008, 06:09 AM

i think robinho will come to chelsea..

For all the bullshit I have read over the past few days regarding Madrid showing little respect to Robinho (when it shd be the other way ard...go figure), the latest AS report says that we are going to offer Robinho a contract extension and pay rise if he stays of course.

The next time someone talks shit about Madrid again based on just hearsay without any facts I'm going to flame him till kingdom come.

The link here if you know how to read Spanish or just use Google to translate
AS.com

i still hope robinho stays....
ronaldo come or not.... i'm still ok bout it...
he comes, happy... he dont come, wont be sad either....

jus hope that the current squad stays intact.

An interesting article I came across, the full version can be found here, here's the edited version concerning Madrid:

It's the Real deal for Toshack

JOHN TOSHACK last night told the incredible story of how his commitment to Spain’s Euro 2008 winning captain Iker Casillas cost him his dream job with Real Madrid.

Toshack’s Wales team failed to reach the Euro finals, but the influence of the Welsh boss on the tournament shone bright in Vienna on Sunday night when Casillas lifted the trophy following Spain’s 1-0 win over Germany.

Toshack, left, groomed a then teenage Casillas for the top by handing him a shock Real Madrid debut in a game away to Atletico Bilbao back in 1999.

Senior Bernabeu board figures wanted Toshack to instead pick either veteran German goalkeeper Bodo Ilgner or Argentina No1 Albano Bizarri.

But Toshack was insistent on going with youth – a policy he has echoed with Wales – and told the directors he was sticking with Casillas.

The Spanish Euro winner made three errors in his first three games which cost Real Madrid goals and crucial victories.

Toshack was dismissed ... and a few months on saw the new-look young Real team he had rebuilt, with Casillas in goal, beat Valencia to win the Uefa Champions League.

The Welsh boss afforded himself a quiet smile of satisfaction on Sunday night as he watched his protege go on to lift the giant European Championship trophy after Fernando Torres’ goal accounted for Germany.

Taking up the story, Toshack said: “I made my own Cardiff City debut as a 16-year-old under Jimmy Scoular. The person marking me for Orient that day, Paul Went, was just 15.

“So throwing in young players was something ingrained into me at an early age and it’s a method I have followed throughout my career as a manager, including with Wales.

“Casillas was a teenage rookie, but I saw something in him one day in training which made me leap out of my seat in the dugout.

“It was an international break, when there are only about three senior players left with Real, and we were watching them play in an 11-a-side game with the youth players.

“It was a hot, sunny day and we were almost yawning on the sidelines. Then, suddenly, Casillas made a stunning reflex stop from six yards, got up and dived across his goal to also keep out the rebound.

“Who is this, I suddenly thought to myself?

“Ilgner was injury-prone at the time and seemed to spend more time in the swimming pool than the training pitch, Bizarri wasn’t to my liking, so I just thought let’s go with Casillas.

“His debut game was in Basque territory away to Atletico Bilbao, a hotbed of a venue for any Real Madrid team, and Casillas threw one into his own goal as we drew 2-2.

“The following Wednesday we went to Greece, drew 3-3 with Olympiakos in the Champions League, and Casillas threw another one into his own net.

“On the Sunday we were at home to league leaders Deportivo La Coruna and he made another error as we drew 1-1.

“None of those results were bad in the circumstances, but the criticism started and people began to question my decision to pick Casillas.

“I went with Bizarri for the next game against Rayo Vallecano. We won 3-2, but he was at fault with the two goals. I had a bit of a go at Bizarri, said Casillas would be my regular choice from then on.

“We beat Molde of Norway 1-0 to top our Champions League group and shortly afterwards I was gone.

“People say I should have bitten my tongue, been a bit more diplomatic, but there we go.

“It’s funny, but a few months on I was in the TV commentary box watching my Real Madrid team beat Valencia to win the Champions League. With Casillas in goal, I should hasten to say.”

Toshack quipped: “I’m still waiting for my part of the bonus from that triumph!”

He went on: “I’m absolutely delighted to see the strides Casillas has made since then. Seeing him lift the trophy for Spain at the weekend clearly gave me enormous satisfaction, particularly when you think back to people questioning my judgement at the time..

“As well as being a terrific shot-stopper, Casillas was always a level-headed individual who was keen to improve.

“Even though other people doubted me, I knew we had something special on our hands and I was sticking by him.

“Even if, in a bizarre sort of way, he virtually ended up costing me my job!”

This post has been edited by Soulsareworthless: Jul 3 2008, 03:54 PM