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 GeForce 177.39 PhysX-enabled driver now available

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k!nex
post Jun 25 2008, 10:09 PM

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now i got 177.35 installed.and its being detected in gpu-z. but the new problem is, how do i noe whether my physX is working? i'm using 08.06.12 nvidia physX drivers tht u put in the first page.in the info tab,its written 'no ageia physX processor is installed'. but in settings tab , inside hardware device selection, GeForce PhysX option is being selected by default. means???
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post Jun 25 2008, 10:23 PM

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i think the physx 08.06.12 is not compatible with older cards....latest for our range of card is version 08.04.02

UPDATE: dl-ed 177.35 and tried to install....installation was ok but after booting up gpz-z still show is 175.70...sigh
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post Jun 25 2008, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(D-Zire @ Jun 25 2008, 10:23 PM)
i think the physx 08.06.12 is not compatible with older cards....latest for our range of card is version 08.04.02

UPDATE: dl-ed 177.35 and tried to install....installation was ok but after booting up gpz-z still show is 175.70...sigh
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did u replaced the modded inf from the same website tht demonic wrath gave? i did it. and it installed successfully for me.
cant be like dat i guess.it says G92 shud work and i'm using a 8800GT
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post Jun 25 2008, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 25 2008, 10:09 PM)
now i got 177.35 installed.and its being detected in gpu-z. but the new problem is, how do i noe whether my physX is working? i'm using 08.06.12 nvidia physX drivers tht u put in the first page.in the info tab,its written 'no ageia physX processor is installed'. but in settings tab , inside hardware device selection, GeForce PhysX option is being selected by default. means???
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Yea, the PhysX is working. You can try running Vantage's CPU test and see the increase in OP/s.
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post Jun 25 2008, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 25 2008, 10:24 PM)
did u replaced the modded inf from the same website tht demonic wrath gave? i did it. and it installed successfully for me.
cant be like dat i guess.it says G92 shud work and i'm using a 8800GT
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i did replaced the file....ahhh....nvm la...i'll juz wait a while longer for the official la.....this is killing me =(...btw i'm using 9600GT
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post Jun 25 2008, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 25 2008, 10:28 PM)
Yea, the PhysX is working. You can try running Vantage's CPU test and see the increase in OP/s.
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How bout UT3 or GRAW? Any improvement? unsure.gif
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post Jun 25 2008, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(SlayerXT @ Jun 25 2008, 11:24 PM)
How bout UT3 or GRAW? Any improvement? unsure.gif
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It depends. On UT3, only PhysX maps show improvement. Besides that, nothing much.

Also, it seems that 177.35 fixed the DX10 performance for a few games - I've tested Crysis and UT3 only, and they seem to run just like how it ran in XP.
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 25 2008, 11:27 PM)
It depends. On UT3, only PhysX maps show improvement. Besides that, nothing much.

Also, it seems that 177.35 fixed the DX10 performance for a few games - I've tested Crysis and UT3 only, and they seem to run just like how it ran in XP.
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thanks alot. i dun play crysis actually. now i downloading 3dmark vantage. slow dl speed. doh.gif
the only dx10 game i play now is lost planet:extreme condition.the UT series also. i only have the first version of unreal tournament back in P3 days using direct x 7 laugh.gif
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post Jun 26 2008, 02:58 PM

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177.40 BETA : http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=293590
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post Jun 26 2008, 07:45 PM

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i got quite low score for 3dmark vantage actually. shocking.gif
3dmark score: P6419
GPU score: 5091
CPU score 29571 <-ppl say dis is freaking high?

using 177.35 driver+ physX 8.06.12

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jun 26 2008, 07:45 PM
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post Jun 27 2008, 01:48 AM

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For mine,

SLI 9600GT
Overall - P7310
GPU - 7883
CPU - 6003

9600GT doesn't work with PhysX yet..
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post Jun 27 2008, 08:27 AM

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Mine 3DMark Vantage score:

..........................177.35+PhysX........175.19

Total score................P11731..............P9920

GPU score...................9710................9695

CPU score...................31250..............10662

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post Jun 27 2008, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jun 27 2008, 08:27 AM)
Mine 3DMark Vantage score:

..........................177.35+PhysX........175.19

Total score................P11731..............P9920

GPU score...................9710................9695

CPU score...................31250..............10662
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huge difference bro... Too bad no 8 series driver yet... whistling.gif
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post Jun 27 2008, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(SlayerXT @ Jun 24 2008, 01:09 PM)
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So, with the latest driver, Forceware 177.39 drivers, Nvidia put its now in-house PhysX APIs into the drivers. Instead of it running on the CPU or on the PhysX chip, it is running it on the GPU. It owns the GPU and it's drivers along with the physics API and all those drivers. This is a dangerous situation.
I don't understand what is the issue here, since nvidia have already embed the physic engine chip in their GPU's of course it'll be driven by the GPU right? wink.gif


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QUOTE(danieljoey @ Jun 27 2008, 08:51 AM)
huge difference bro... Too bad no 8 series driver yet... whistling.gif
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I think nVidia's CUDA forum got 177.35 driver for GC other than 200 series.
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post Jun 27 2008, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:03 AM)
I don't understand what is the issue here, since nvidia have already embed the physic engine chip in their GPU's of course it'll be driven by the GPU right?  wink.gif
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Lol they're just tak puas at NVIDIA.

GPU physics is of course the way to go since:-
1) It progress a lot faster than CPU (number of processors for GPU can be doubled in a short time(See HD3870 (320spu) -> HD4850 (800spu) transition))
2) It performs faster than CPU (at least 5 times faster in Physics according to 3DMark Vantage Physics Test)
3) Dual GPU is common, but Dual CPU is rare and expensive (Current solution is that 1 GPU for Physics and 1 GPU for rendering)
4) GPU is much cheaper than CPU (a 9600GSO can perform faster than Q9450 at a cheaper price) - how many cores do you think CPU need to achieve the same performance?
5) If the game does not support GPU physics, the other GPU can be used for rendering too (CF/SLI).


QUOTE(danieljoey @ Jun 27 2008, 08:51 AM)
huge difference bro... Too bad no 8 series driver yet... whistling.gif
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Yea, currently the PhysX driver support G92 and GTX 200 chips only. They'll bring support for other cards next month.

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post Jun 27 2008, 11:06 AM

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already installed 177.40 for Vista 64 yesterday, can enable physx working great, havnt try wif vantage yet...... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 27 2008, 11:24 AM

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According to some forums, Forceware 177.35 performs better in performance..
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post Jun 27 2008, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 27 2008, 11:24 AM)
According to some forums, Forceware 177.35 performs better in performance..
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u means better than 177.40,how?
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post Jun 27 2008, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 27 2008, 09:55 AM)
Lol they're just tak puas at NVIDIA.

GPU physics is of course the way to go since:-
1) It progress a lot faster than CPU (number of processors for GPU can be doubled in a short time(See HD3870 (320spu) -> HD4850 (800spu) transition))
2) It performs faster than CPU (at least 5 times faster in Physics according to 3DMark Vantage Physics Test)
3) Dual GPU is common, but Dual CPU is rare and expensive (Current solution is that 1 GPU for Physics and 1 GPU for rendering)
4) GPU is much cheaper than CPU (a 9600GSO can perform faster than Q9450 at a cheaper price) - how many cores do you think CPU need to achieve the same performance?
5) If the game does not support GPU physics, the other GPU can be used for rendering too (CF/SLI).
Yea, currently the PhysX driver support G92 and GTX 200 chips only. They'll bring support for other cards next month.
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It's not tak puas.. Just saying that it's supposed to be CPU test but kena taken over by GPU already tongue.gif And CPU test is meant to test the CPU. Anyhow it's good thing that this is happening brows.gif PC without processor next time? All we need is GPU mobo and RAM.

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