I don't think it is cheating. Said for example, I am running SLi now, if I willing to let one of the cards to run PhysX and another to run rendering, or I purchase another cheap GC to run PhysX, in that case they can't said nVidia is cheating on 3DMark Vantage cause this is what my GCs will do in the real game that support PhysX. nVidia enable GC to use PhysX is just providing another cheaper way for gamers to play their game instead of purchase an expensive PhysX card.

PC without CPU is next challenge to GC manufacturers.

This post has been edited by low98944: Jun 27 2008, 01:33 PM

wah,
this kind of things how are you going to justify "suppose"
it is because of innovation and challange that we get better and better performance system,
i don't see 3D mark got any stand to say anything as the IT industry does not solely belong to them.

er.. can some1 direct me what to do to enable physx.... like what to do and where to get what? kinda blur ad.

smtg strange here,both of us using the same Q6600, frequency also shud be the same.mobo and ram different le.but his GC is a 9800GX2. compare CPU score using PhysX, i get 29.5k like dat,his one 31.2k.means even if u hv a much more powerful GC,it doesn't affect much CPU score using PhysX?

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jun 27 2008, 02:22 PM

Here is my score with Forceware 177.35+PhysX driver 8.06.12


Here is my score with Forceware 177.35+PhysX driver 8.06.12+ OC from 3.01GHz to 3.5GHz

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Added on June 27, 2008, 3:06 pmYou can get the drivers in this post (at post #3 if your GC is other than GeForce 200 series)as stated below:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/728083

This post has been edited by low98944: Jun 27 2008, 03:06 PM

Doods... You guys are not getting the point... 3Dmark tests the CPU because!!! and only because CPU plays a important role in gaming. It could be a bottleneck if you are not having a powerful enough CPU. That's why it is included inside the benchmark. So, better proc will give you higher 3Dmark score. BUT! The CPU score is now masked by PhysX giving false reading of the CPU score and thus giving false score altogether.

Do you get better fps now with the new PhysX driver? Not that much right? Because not many games support it too for now. That's one way of showing that the scores are tempered with and it's not exactly a breakthrough if comparison with the score.

True.. I'm not fighting will you guys about the PhysX is good thing. We're talking a different topic altogether. I love to use PhysX with my 9600GSO as well for the games that supports it. For now it doesn't take over the CPU role but just games that support PhysX so that kinda sucks.

And I'm just saying that the score is now tempered with and not considered legit. Thus, Futuremark needs to come out with a new set of tests to counter this.

1. 3Dmark Vantage is being compromised because of CPU score
2. PhysX being runned by GC and no need of using an extra overpriced card

It's 2 different things. I anti no 1. But I and pro with no 2.

Now at Radeon, 3Dmark doesn't own the IT industry yes.. But the benchmark is one of the most reputable synthetic test that there is around for now. =/ So 3Dmark is here to stay for a while. It's just that people are going around boasting about that 20k-30k increase in CPU score that annoys me as though their computer have some turbo boost upgrade.

lol. i tried installing the Physx but dunno y keep saying that a fatal error occured. Then the installation is aborted prematurely. lol dunno what to do. tried so many times ad and even tried dl from other places as well

PhysX 8.06.12 is currently only for GeForce 200 series and those GC using G92. For other GC, need to wait a while. nVidia said they will enable PhysX for all GeForce 8 & 9 in this coming July.

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Added on June 27, 2008, 7:21 pmI am also wondering whether it is using one GPU to compute or both GPU? If GPU affect the PhysX significantly, I may purchase an additional GeForce 8800GT to run PhysX.

This post has been edited by low98944: Jun 27 2008, 07:24 PM

177.41 WHQL is out

Vista64

Vista32

XP32

XP64

On a side note, ppl that crying foul over PhysX on nvidia - PhysX runs on ATI 3870

does this driver support 8800GT GC?

That Forceware not even support for PhysX. The reason I heard was 177.41 develop even before 177.39.

now i OC to 3.2Ghz(356X9)
CPU score rise to 30669.
when its 3.0Ghz (334X9)
CPU score is at 29571.

simple hypothesis for my rig,every 200 Mhz increase in proc will produce roughly 1.1k CPU score in 3Dmark vantage.

8800GT of coz can use 177.35.its not bad at all

so far PhysX-enabled ForceWare still not "officially" launch yet (?)

does my G80 8800gts works ?
i downloaded the latest drive.. seem like nth happen

Correct me if I'm wrong in this. You can't get rid of the processors...the polygons are all still generated by the processor, then fed to the GC where it will texture, shade, etc etc. But the building blocks, the polys, still need to be 'manufactured' by your proc.

What this does is offload as much stuff as possible to free up the CPU to concentrate on making more polys, rather than trying to do a few different things at once. I'm not entirely sure how much physics calculations currently perform. Could be 40% of total CPU, could be 5%. Maybe the game devs will know. What this means is more realistic physics in the future, but right now, I think physics is not a huge part of the total processor usage, and as such performance gains in the real world is minimal.

As with everything else, this will just get better with age. But as it stands, it'll probably take a while before this technology shows significant improvements in speed and complexity.

Great news for Geforce owners.




Full review of Geforce Physx capabilities here : http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia...nce/default.asp

wohoo... physx folding ?

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Added on August 7, 2008, 7:01 pm

I lold

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Added on August 7, 2008, 7:08 pmneed physx supprt game just can increase performance right ?

This post has been edited by 168257061: Aug 7 2008, 07:08 PM

Guys..
Ive just dwnload physx enabled driver for xp ver 177.35 (try to get 177.39 but seems cannot get it) and physx driver ver 8.07
So, how to install it? Need to uninstall the older driver?
I'm running Sli now...

wait until august 12...
then get the latest driver..

OIC..must get it then if support my 8 series..

This post has been edited by safone: Aug 8 2008, 06:54 PM