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clngu
post Jun 24 2008, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(ahshang @ Jun 23 2008, 05:31 PM)
hi clngu,
i would like to know how and where did you applied for your CCNA and CCNP exam?
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how?
1. go to Pearson VUE
2. go to Test Taker Services. under Select your category. choose Information Technology (IT). Select your program. choose Cisco Systems.
3. under Test Scheduling. choose Schedule Online. the choose Career Certifications and Specialization Exams.
4. now choose Create a web account. if you have not register in VUE before.

where?
1. login to VUE. select a Test Centre.
clngu
post Jun 24 2008, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(ahshang @ Jun 23 2008, 06:08 PM)
yup, i would like to take these exams without taking formal courses as well.
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remember to plan your budget. the moment you done a schedule, select a test centre and made a payment online. you have to commit yourself to it.
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post Jun 24 2008, 11:19 AM

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hi clngu,

how can i register for microsoft, oracle and some other certifications?
Pearson VUE does not provide any courses about that.

for example, how I register myself for PMP and where to get the course materials?
besides that, if i want to take MCPD, what are the exams that I should take? how can i register it if i do not want to go through the training centre?

it seems quite hard to search for the local information about these certifications through the website. sad.gif

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QUOTE(CosmicZone @ Jun 24 2008, 11:19 AM)
hi clngu,

how can i register for microsoft, oracle and some other certifications?
Pearson VUE does not provide any courses about that.

for example, how I register myself for PMP and where to get the course materials?
besides that, if i want to take MCPD, what are the exams that I should take? how can i register it if i do not want to go through the training centre?

it seems quite hard to search for the local information about these certifications through the website. sad.gif
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Microsoft exam certification is conduct by PROMETRIC if i not mistaken.

Last time i took my microsoft cert under Prometric and Cisco cert under Pearson VUE
clngu
post Jun 24 2008, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(CosmicZone @ Jun 24 2008, 11:19 AM)
hi clngu,

how can i register for microsoft, oracle and some other certifications?
Pearson VUE does not provide any courses about that.

for example, how I register myself for PMP and where to get the course materials?
besides that, if i want to take MCPD, what are the exams that I should take? how can i register it if i do not want to go through the training centre?

it seems quite hard to search for the local information about these certifications through the website. sad.gif
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1. go to Prometric
2. under Select your testing program. choose both. select Microsoft.
3. under Select your region. choose Malaysia.
4. select Next.
5. choose Schedule an Appointment.
6. select Next and Next.
7. choose Exam number and Language.
8. select Next.
9. choose Available Test Sites.
10. now choose Are you a new user. if you have not register in Prometric before.

for PMP, you need to fulfill 35 contact hours before registering for the exam. either you attend Exam Preparation course locally or online.
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post Jun 24 2008, 12:32 PM

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clngu, thanks for your help smile.gif Will register on VUE.com.
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QUOTE(flance82 @ Jun 23 2008, 06:25 PM)
Thanks a lot guy, i learned alot in this topic...
Salute to clngu, u r god-likely for me lolz...

i'm a lost IT diploma holder (due to wrong trusting college) & dunno where to go....
stuck in current job (non IT field) make me really sick of it...
Should i go for Degree or Pro Certs or just continue lost?
CAn any one suggest me what to do?
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take me as example. when I graduated (BSc Computer Science from non-famous university) few years ago, I had hard time to find IT job with good pay. my 1st job was doing IT support with RM1.6k salary. after working for 2 years, I managed to get a new job with RM2.7k salary. after working for 1.5 years, I felt I lost my direction. I was standing in cross road. my career never improve and I was doing the routine works day-in day-out.

so I decided to pursue my study in order to develop my new career. at that time I had little savings to allow me to take Master Degree. the part-time programme would take 2 years to complete. so I done my research about what Master Degree I aim for and which college to study.

one day I talked to my friends. I found that they were taking ACCA, CIMA, CIM, CPA, etc. then I started asking them what was that. only at that moment I given to understand there was something called professional certificate, licensed/registered career. so I started doing research about IT professional certificate.

finally, I had 2 options in front of me to choose for my career development. one is taking Master Degree. another one is taking Professional Certification. say I have RM20k in hand.

option 1 - taking Master Degree. need 2 years part-time to complete it and get the certificate. then may be can find a higher position and get RM2k increment. so after 2 years, salary would be RM5k.

option 2 - taking professional certification. depends how many certificate i want to get. say as many as possible within RM20k. say need 1.5 years to change job. position and salary would be determined by the type and number of certification i hold at that moment.

at last I made decision to choose option 2. shorter route. Master degree can take later. within 6 months completed Cisco CCNA, CCDA, CCNP and CCDP. another 6 months completed Microsoft MCSA, MCSE, MCDBA and MCAD. another 6 months completed OCA, OCP and etc.

then I went to Headhunter to submit my resume and requested RM5k job. they very impressed about my qualification. within 1 week i received interview from MNC. during interview, I showed HR and interviewer my professional certifications. no question at all from them. within a week i got an offer of RM5k job. after working for 3 months, I saw from newspaper that a MNC hiring professionals with some certifications that I was holding at that time. so I just try to send my resume to them, request RM7.5k. within 1 week I received interview from them. after interview, HR called me on 3rd day to sign the offer letter stated RM7.5k. my story goes on. today my pay is 5 digits.
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QUOTE(clngu @ Jun 24 2008, 12:58 PM)
take me as example. when I graduated (BSc Computer Science from non-famous university) few years ago, I had hard time to find IT job with good pay. my 1st job was doing IT support with RM1.6k salary. after working for 2 years, I managed to get a new job with RM2.7k salary. after working for 1.5 years, I felt I lost my direction. I was standing in cross road. my career never improve and I was doing the routine works day-in day-out.

so I decided to pursue my study in order to develop my new career. at that time I had little savings to allow me to take Master Degree. the part-time programme would take 2 years to complete. so I done my research about what Master Degree I aim for and which college to study.

one day I talked to my friends. I found that they were taking ACCA, CIMA, CIM, CPA, etc. then I started asking them what was that. only at that moment I given to understand there was something called professional certificate, licensed/registered career. so I started doing research about IT professional certificate.

finally, I had 2 options in front of me to choose for my career development. one is taking Master Degree. another one is taking Professional Certification. say I have RM20k in hand.

option 1 - taking Master Degree. need 2 years part-time to complete it and get the certificate. then may be can find a higher position and get RM2k increment. so after 2 years, salary would be RM5k.

option 2 - taking professional certification. depends how many certificate i want to get. say as many as possible within RM20k. say need 1.5 years to change job. position and salary would be determined by the type and number of certification i hold at that moment.

at last I made decision to choose option 2. shorter route. Master degree can take later. within 6 months completed Cisco CCNA, CCDA, CCNP and CCDP. another 6 months completed Microsoft MCSA, MCSE, MCDBA and MCAD. another 6 months completed OCA, OCP and etc.

then I went to Headhunter to submit my resume and requested RM5k job. they very impressed about my qualification. within 1 week i received interview from MNC. during interview, I showed HR and interviewer my professional certifications. no question at all from them. within a week i got an offer of RM5k job. after working for 3 months, I saw from newspaper that a MNC hiring professionals with some certifications that I was holding at that time. so I just try to send my resume to them, request RM7.5k. within 1 week I received interview from them. after interview, HR called me on 3rd day to sign the offer letter stated RM7.5k. my story goes on. today my pay is 5 digits.
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All the certification u study yourself or using Testking? or Pass4Sure?

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QUOTE(Hybz @ Jun 23 2008, 09:24 PM)
im already enough to stick inside IT helpdesk picking calls and doing email and desk work ... very hard to jump sad.gif

Im interested in IT, more toward networking, servers, security, data centre , midrange , mainframe etc

not really into programming n oracle thingy ...
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not too late to change your career. your interest is broad. i have to ask you to choose it by priority.

networking, servers, security, data centre, midrange, mainframe. arrange them from 1 to 6.
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post Jun 24 2008, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(lionking7791 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:03 PM)
All the certification u study yourself or using Testking? or Pass4Sure?
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all study by myself. books from Kinokuniya and MPH. hands-on from working experience. I know Testking but never buy it. sometime googling to find free question and answer to know how the exam format being structured. sometime friends sharing testking with me if they got it.

it is tough to just self-study and hands-on. I failed exam few times as well. so referring to Testking or Pass4Sure is no harm. my advice is don't rely too much on TK or P4S to get certified. be a real competent professional. not a paper qualification professional with little skills and knowledge.
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QUOTE(winnie08 @ Jun 24 2008, 10:24 AM)
I'm doing my own CCNA study rite now. Hopefully to get it in few months time.
After that, I might consider Security or SE. See how. Still need $$$ for all this.
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might consider Security, so the decision is not firm yet. you have how many year of working experience.
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QUOTE(clngu @ Jun 24 2008, 01:24 PM)
might consider Security, so the decision is not firm yet. you have how many year of working experience.
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I'm considering server as well. I'm currently the assistant for a bunch of network engineers in a local ISP company.
Working experience? Around 4 years already.


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i got CCNA,win in Cisco Network Skill Competition,cisco partner company only offer me 1.8k - 2.0k...how come?
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QUOTE(UbuntuClient @ Jun 24 2008, 07:09 AM)
Can u guide me how to make money with SCJP cert? I want to take SCWCD next year if my money enough.
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a single specialty hard to earn more. if you look at Java certification route map, there are 5 specializations and 1 master. with only SCWCD, you won't go too far. should do research about current Java trend in today job market in Malaysia and which industry require Java professionals.

i would say either to take all 3 specialties under Java EE or to take 1 specialty from each Java SE, Java EE and Java ME or to achieve SCEA.
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QUOTE(clngu @ Jun 24 2008, 12:58 PM)
take me as example. when I graduated (BSc Computer Science from non-famous university) few years ago, I had hard time to find IT job with good pay. my 1st job was doing IT support with RM1.6k salary. after working for 2 years, I managed to get a new job with RM2.7k salary. after working for 1.5 years, I felt I lost my direction. I was standing in cross road. my career never improve and I was doing the routine works day-in day-out.

so I decided to pursue my study in order to develop my new career. at that time I had little savings to allow me to take Master Degree. the part-time programme would take 2 years to complete. so I done my research about what Master Degree I aim for and which college to study.

one day I talked to my friends. I found that they were taking ACCA, CIMA, CIM, CPA, etc. then I started asking them what was that. only at that moment I given to understand there was something called professional certificate, licensed/registered career. so I started doing research about IT professional certificate.

finally, I had 2 options in front of me to choose for my career development. one is taking Master Degree. another one is taking Professional Certification. say I have RM20k in hand.

option 1 - taking Master Degree. need 2 years part-time to complete it and get the certificate. then may be can find a higher position and get RM2k increment. so after 2 years, salary would be RM5k.

option 2 - taking professional certification. depends how many certificate i want to get. say as many as possible within RM20k. say need 1.5 years to change job. position and salary would be determined by the type and number of certification i hold at that moment.

at last I made decision to choose option 2. shorter route. Master degree can take later. within 6 months completed Cisco CCNA, CCDA, CCNP and CCDP. another 6 months completed Microsoft MCSA, MCSE, MCDBA and MCAD. another 6 months completed OCA, OCP and etc.

then I went to Headhunter to submit my resume and requested RM5k job. they very impressed about my qualification. within 1 week i received interview from MNC. during interview, I showed HR and interviewer my professional certifications. no question at all from them. within a week i got an offer of RM5k job. after working for 3 months, I saw from newspaper that a MNC hiring professionals with some certifications that I was holding at that time. so I just try to send my resume to them, request RM7.5k. within 1 week I received interview from them. after interview, HR called me on 3rd day to sign the offer letter stated RM7.5k. my story goes on. today my pay is 5 digits.
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hi,may i know wat kind of company u working?is IT company or bank, finance?

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clngu, ur story made me feel that still hope for me thanks you very much & i already looking for books to study myself already thanks for sharing
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QUOTE(winnie08 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:54 PM)
I'm considering server as well. I'm currently the assistant for a bunch of network engineers in a local ISP company.
Working experience? Around 4 years already.
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4 years working in ISP. allow me to advice on your career path.

1. ISP, great point to add value in your resume.

2. Server Administration, what type of server ie. File, E-mail, Internet, Application, etc. and technology platform ie. Microsoft, Sun Solaris, HP-UX, IBM, Linux, etc. you wish to focus.

3. Security, you prefer to concentrate on security design and implementation or security analysis and investigation.
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QUOTE(clngu @ Jun 24 2008, 02:27 PM)
4 years working in ISP. allow me to advice on your career path.

1. ISP, great point to add value in your resume.
Actually I worked for this ISP company for more than a year now. Before that I was IT Admin/Support doing mainly clerical works like MsOffice, etc for 2 different companies;- one at a local hotel and one at subcon company for government.

Joined the ISP company early last year thru my cousin; one of the network engineers there. She was the only girl there. Now got 1 more lady engineer and me as their assistant.

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2. Server Administration, what type of server ie. File, E-mail, Internet, Application, etc. and technology platform ie. Microsoft, Sun Solaris, HP-UX, IBM, Linux, etc. you wish to focus.


We have file, email, application(I think) servers here... on Windows2003 and Linux.
So I guess its probably Microsoft or Linux...

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3. Security, you prefer to concentrate on security design and implementation or security analysis and investigation.

I'm not sure which... one of my task rite now is monitoring the IDS for our company.. using Broadweb hardware and BEMS monitor...



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QUOTE(realnormalman @ Jun 24 2008, 02:10 PM)
hi,may i know wat kind of company u working?is IT company or bank, finance?
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am working in Financial industry.

I will discuss later why you need paper qualification to support your career development. there is this thing called Talent Management. and it has been implemented in many MNCs.
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QUOTE(realnormalman @ Jun 24 2008, 02:05 PM)
i got CCNA,win in Cisco Network Skill Competition,cisco partner company only offer me 1.8k - 2.0k...how come?
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depends on you working for Gold or Silver or Premier Cisco Partner.

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