I'm AGree with you ......... Need more practical @@

Don't know it is good news for you or not ....
i plan to sell my cisco home lab, if you are interested kindly let me know or pm me ... sell in cheapest price @@

I'm having 3x 2600 series 1x 2500 series and 1x 2950 switches ... enough for CCNA, CCNP, CCDP and CCIP.

Thanks

wow...................


may i know, can u get 10K per month with the below cert's ?

1st time i hear ppl got own cisco lab at home for practical ...

salute u all

very much depending on which technical certification you hold. from my experience with MCSA, MCSE, MCDBA, MCAD, CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, OCA, OCP, you can easily earn RM9k with relevant experiences.

if you want to earn RM10k above, you need something else. i can guide you to earn RM15k or even RM80k per month with the right certification and experience in your career.

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This post has been edited by NicholasG5: Jun 23 2008, 10:37 AM

am given to understand that most of the IT fresh graduates having difficulties to find their right career path. let me share my experience.

from the threads, am found most of you interested in pursuing Cisco CCNA certification, which is ok as majority MNCs is using Cisco products as part of their IT strategic plan. most of the local universities provide industrial training (to gain some levels of knowledge and experience) to students before they graduated. some universities partner with IT service providers (example Cisco) to provide products knowledge to students.

now the question is how to secure the job easily and get higher pay than others. 1st - you need to know your interest at the moment ie. networking, programming, database, compliance, security, disaster recovery, etc. 2nd - you need to know the current IT trend in local industries ie. mobile technology in banking sector, radio technology in logistic sector, etc. 3rd - you need to know the skill/knowledge needed in local industries ie. disaster recovery in banking sector, ITIL in insurance sector, etc.

let assume you interested in networking and would like to work in bank. the skill and knowledge require for this area is very broad. so let say you prefer security specialization. now what do you need. you need anything related to networking and security knowledges. sound too many for fresh graduates. in today market, for fresh graduates to work in bank as ... [sorry. be right back.]

clngu,
its very noble of u to share ur experience in this...
i'm not a fresh grade but i wanted to specialize in sumthing rather than do IT clerical works. so now i'm planning to get some certs for advancement...
still clueless tho... i know bits of networking, server, programming, security etc... like i said, 'bits' of this and that...

really appreciate it if u can give some tips and advise...

ps:- keep up the good work...

This post has been edited by winnie08: Jun 23 2008, 12:11 PM

hmm, got a question, currently im now final year in electrical and electronics. So is all this cert important for me? Btw, i do have a course name CCNA larr. Will all this cert helps to advance my career in the future?

thanks !

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let assume you interested in networking and would like to work in bank. the skill and knowledge require for this area is very broad. so let say you prefer security specialization. now what do you need. you need anything related to networking and security knowledges. sound too many for fresh graduates. in today market, for fresh graduates to work in bank as network security engineer/security analyst. the candidates require to have IT networking certification as well as IT security certification. normally without working experience (just paper qualification), the interviewers are not easily to be convinced. but then you need to learn how to tackle such situation into your advantages.

since you gone through industrial training (attached to MNC for couple of months), to certain circumstances you did learn something in that organization. next you passed CCNA exam. the cert added value to your resume even though your hands-on experience very little. with basis degree and CCNA still not enough to help you to work in bank as network security engineer/security analyst with higher pay. but CCSP/CISSP level is too high for fresh graduates. what you need to acquire is some network security certifications ie. CIW Security Analyst, CompTIA Network+, CompTIA Security+, Security Certified Program SCNS, etc. these are vendor-neutral type of certification. it is a very good start for fresh graduates or junior level professionals. it is not advisable for fresh graduates to take product-specified ie. Microsoft, Novell, HP, etc. due to hands-on experience is required.

of course if you are an ambitious person, then you can acquire some IT management certifications that the bank is looking for. fresh graduates can take ITIL foundation without working experience.

from my observation/experience, i summarize the type of skills/knowledges that IT professionals should equip for their career development.

Hard Skills (Technical)

Networking
- Cisco CCNA, CCNP, CCSP, CCIE
- Nortel NCSS, NCSE, NCA

Database
- Oracle OCA, OCP, OCM
- Microsoft MCDBA

Programming
- Microsoft MCAD, MCSD
- Sun SCJA, SCJP

Firewall
- Checkpoint CCSA, CCSE, CCMA
- Juniper JNCIA, JNCIS

Technology
- Microsoft MCSA, MCSE
- Linux LPI Level 1 & 2
- Sun SCSA, SCNA
- Novell, HP, IBM, Citrix

Soft Skills (Management)

Project Management
- CAPM, PMP
- Prince2

Business Continuity
- ABCP, CBCP, MBCP

Audit
- CISA, CISM, SOX, ISO 27001 Lead Auditor, ISO 9001 Lead Auditor, CFE

Wireless
- CWNA, CWSP, CWNE

Security
- ISC2 SSCP, CISSP
- SCP-SCNS, SCNP, SCNA
- EC-Council CEH, CHFI, LPT

Storage Area Network
- SNIA SCSP, SCSE, SCSA

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Added on June 23, 2008, 3:53 pmif you want to earn 10k and above after 5-10 years concrete experiences, you need specific skills/knowledges. in today job market, the high-pay career is;

1. Business Continuity CBCP and MBCP
2. Project Management PMP (working in US-based company) and Prince2 (working in UK-based company)
3. Information Security CISSP, CISM, ISO27001 Lead Auditor, CEH, CHFI
4. IT Service Management ITIL Practitioner and ITIL Service Manager
5. Network Infrastructure Cisco CCIE
6. Database Oracle OCP and OCM
7. Storage Network SNIA SCSE and SCSA
8. Data Centre CDCS and CDCE


about Cisco CCIP and CCVP, you should be able to earn RM5k. where to work. preferable Vendor industry.

about SAP, am not working in the environment before. from my friends' feedback. you only get high pay once you able to gone through at least 1-2 full lifecycle. if i were you, my advice is to get SAP Security certification.

This post has been edited by clngu: Jun 23 2008, 03:53 PM

if you want to earn 10k and above after 5-10 years concrete experiences, you need specific skills/knowledges. in today job market, the high-pay career is;

1. Business Continuity CBCP and MBCP
2. Project Management PMP (working in US-based company) and Prince2 (working in UK-based company)
3. Information Security CISSP, CISM, ISO27001 Lead Auditor, CEH, CHFI
4. IT Service Management ITIL Practitioner and ITIL Service Manager
5. Network Infrastructure Cisco CCIE
6. Database Oracle OCP and OCM
7. Storage Network SNIA SCSE and SCSA
8. Data Centre CDCS and CDCE


about Cisco CCIP and CCVP, you should be able to earn RM5k. where to work. preferable Vendor industry.

about SAP, am not working in the environment before. from my friends' feedback. you only get high pay once you able to gone through at least 1-2 full lifecycle. if i were you, my advice is to get SAP Security certification.

depends on whether you like IT governance (more to design, analysis, lots of paperwork) or IT Installation/Maintenance (more to support, lots of labor work). or call centre environment, picking up calls.

also very much depending on your interest. one of my friends from E&E field moved into IT Networking. he chose to specialize in Cisco products. so he took CCNA, CCNP and CCIE. now working in Shell Cyberjaya.

hi clngu,
i would like to know how and where did you applied for your CCNA and CCNP exam?

This post has been edited by ahshang: Jun 23 2008, 05:31 PM

you mean register ?

yup, i would like to take these exams without taking formal courses as well.

Thanks a lot guy, i learned alot in this topic...
Salute to clngu, u r god-likely for me lolz...

i'm a lost IT diploma holder (due to wrong trusting college) & dunno where to go....
stuck in current job (non IT field) make me really sick of it...
Should i go for Degree or Pro Certs or just continue lost?
CAn any one suggest me what to do?

im already enough to stick inside IT helpdesk picking calls and doing email and desk work ... very hard to jump

Im interested in IT, more toward networking, servers, security, data centre , midrange , mainframe etc

not really into programming n oracle thingy ...

Can u guide me how to make money with SCJP cert? I want to take SCWCD next year if my money enough.

I just have MCP. my colleague started take exam for MCTS . but my company not rili use .NET. mostly on java and php. so i intend to take oracle or java cert. any centre can recommend around KL for me to take exam ? tks.

I'm doing my own CCNA study rite now. Hopefully to get it in few months time.
After that, I might consider Security or SE. See how. Still need $$$ for all this.