your point?

im merely generously "proving myself" as you've requested. dont see how thats just "commenting on my behaviour"

I said both PvE and PvP

You tried to twist my words

and how am i twisting your words?

Cause you only showed your PvP and your PvE is just average and not even at TS's level

kopi-pasta to save time:



your obviously not at my level, then why are you post is directed to me?

besides, my replies to TS were relevent in the sense that TS believes latency is one of the reason affecting his dps, and TS wants to improve his dps, where by i pointed out it wont be affecting his dps and even if it does, theres nothing he can do about it besides b****ing for a lost cause.

and seriously now, read through the whole 7 pages of this thread. were there any occurance of my showing my pvp until people asking for it to be shoved in their face? AFAIK no. do point out if theres any though.

I dont need to be at your level because i'm talking about your personal behaviour which isnt WoW related

You on the other hand directing to TS is WoW related where you think latency makes no difference in DPS in raiding. Dont try to sidetrack it by saying nothing he can do. The fact remains that you said it makes no difference which you're wrong

Oh, by the way i've cleared ZA while replying you.

EDIT: Sorry for hijacking thread. I would not reply to any irrelevant posts by Quazacolt anymore

This post has been edited by ChcGamer: Jun 19 2008, 06:07 PM

oh gee. did i just stepped into oprah channel, or WoW sub-forum?

back to the latency scene! sidetracking it or not, the fact that, again, kopi pasta:

/popcorn
/cola


btw remi can u pass some for me to help u out XD

wow all of a sudden you are on my side now? just reading through the thread generally makes me assume you are a type of person that just loves to spam threads with meaningless gibberish and what not.

and yeah i compared my dps for this weeks brut, 1980DPS, 20 more to break 2k. but kinda different since now i have 4 LW's in party instead of 3 from last week. not really sure how much DPS that contributes though.

since all of you (especially quazsmlj) is so suddenly interested in melee shaman mechanics i'll try to explain the best i can:
i know what can be improved for my dps, its the timings for shocks, totem twisting, stormstrike cooldown and as well as wf cooldown.

thing is, for optimum dps u shouldnt be stormstriking whenever the cd is up, that just adds 2 extra yellow hits. trick is to wait for the wf cd to finish and then SS. sounds simple? yea it is. Now, add in shocks. fine, this is simple enough, just shock whenever you can. Now, add totem twisting. Now this is an important variable to consider, as GoA is a significant boost to my own dps (about 4ish % crit) and as AP/crit for rest of the party members, but under the condition that wf buff must be constantly refreshed (ideally every 10 secs).
Now this is where it gets harder, imagine u open with flame shock (6 seconds cd) then SS, followed by totem planting. Usually for me, latency is affecting my dps here, as by the time i finish totem planting, my shock cd was already few seconds off. so thats no optimum dps. SS cd is incoming, but in the last 2 secs, wf procs, so i hold on SS, i twist GoA/WF in the meantime, by then, again, i missed my WF cd by a few seconds, more dps wasted.

well, you get the picture. im on constant gcd because i have several cd's to manage all in the span of 6-12 secs. i had to hold off shocking or stormstriking just so i can press my drums. so this is a question i would want to ask the asian latency shamans, how do u get more dps, and at the same time buff your group in the optimum way possible? This is not something i can ask the players playing from the states etc, they simply dont have this problem. how else would they be able to do 2.2k on brut?

Granted, this is not all about latency though. all i wanted from this thread was to know more shamans (not many in my server, and usually, dont have a clue) so i thought, what the hell, why not start a discussion here and have some heart to heart serious discussion on the mechanics of the class and how could it be improved. Theres a lot of progressed asian guild members hanging around here so might be a good place to start.

but then again, this thread is kinda meaningless to me already, too much spam to derive anything good from it anyways. i thank you people who tried to get this post back on track, but i guess (as someone said already), this is LYN forums. i'll go back to researching EJ threads.

o btw, JoW on bosses give me more than enough mana to twist continuously. If the pally is too busy healing, i pop a mana pot, and blow my sham rage cd, which fills back my mana bar from 0-100% in less than 10 secs. (1k mana ticks ftw). Usually on brut i pop SR twice, plus JoW, mana spring and water shield. Longest period of time where i just sit back and auto attack? 3secs.


ps: whats TS? someone care to enlighten me?
pss: authority if thats you, i hope u get killed more in AoC. that said, come back to WoW please =/

This post has been edited by mikehuan: Jun 20 2008, 03:14 AM

TS = thread starter

dun feed the troll. no pun intended.

Sigh, i wish i had a totem twisting shaman. We've recently started having a retri paladin raiding regularly with us and the boost to our Enhancement shaman is immense and we worked out that it comes out to about 300mp5 for shamans. All you need is another not ret pala judging it at the start and our retlol keeps it up with crusader strike.

Even though, as fury dps my management of gcds is not as intense as a totem twisting shaman, the latency really does prevent me from doing the perfect 18 second rotation. It really does mess up dps and prevents me from challenging for the top of the wws scoreboards

lolwut clicker?

lolidiot?

loltard
drum is an item
it doesnt effect if u click or bind it

p/s:oh sorry..drum cant be used in arena(if u r a lw which i doubt)

This post has been edited by busbos: Jun 20 2008, 02:16 PM

thing is, i didnt even write "click" on the original statement. I wrote "press". drum macro is already binded. just ignore him.

you're pretty funny.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29529

yeah, you can click it, or bind it.
"dur, drum is an item dur!"

so loltard back at ye

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Added on June 20, 2008, 2:29 pmyeah and you somehow cant do anything while using the drum right? L2 macrobind items (or drums) to your Sstrike/shocks then.

lolpveidiot is lol.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 20 2008, 02:29 PM

duh
i was telling that i doesnt effect in terms of ur dps
i know u mention the clicker as if he was clicking his skill
that's why im telling u drum is an item..which hv a 2min cd which doesnt effect ur dps if u click or bind it u to keeeyyy

loltard back at ye

sigh. fine:

drums is 2 mins cd per press, shocks is 6 seconds, SS is 12. Do your math.
4 LW's in party, drums dont stack. I hope this is clear to you? and which part did i say i couldnt do anything while using the drums? seriously, stop making a fool of yourself. Again,


lolidiot?

i am gonna assume i = it, and with that... your saying drums is an item, and it doesnt AFFECT one's dps?
you're taking the loltard to a whole new level right here.

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Added on June 20, 2008, 2:35 pm

lolidiot?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 20 2008, 02:35 PM

no, you are. you're taking his statement out of context altogether.
Drums is an item that should not affect your dps cycle, as it only consumes a 1 sec GCD. Like haste pots.

edit:
Hold stormstrike, press drums, wait for gcd, stormstrike. I didnt say not SS'ing for the whole 30 secs duration?


lololol idiot.


btw, here's your post. feel free to reply what i have written about it.



if not, shove it back please kkthxBYEE

This post has been edited by mikehuan: Jun 20 2008, 02:42 PM