@andrew, u can opt for a second hand HTC Touch Cruise, fits your bill perfectly

@andrew
With a budget of RM1.6-1.7k........ more worth to buy a 2-3mths old HTC Diamond.
At least you are assured of another 10 months of warranty.
Many users are selling in that price range.

Try avoiding P3600i which has only 64mb Ram/ 128mb Rom.........
with today's applications, its definitely not enuff.

how bout nokia e71?

ya ... i thought of HTC diamond as well
the 2nd hand price is around my budget as well

is HTC diamond good deal ?
i thought of iphone at 1st but budget high and is troublesome to get

BUDGET RANGE: less than 1.5k

Brand Preference if any: consider all

Second hand: consider

QWERTY keyboard: (wat is tat)

Keypad: Virtual / Hardware (most pda phones are virtual)

GPS: no

Bluetooth: not necessary

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum: not so important

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: No necessary

Front Camera: No

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot

hi guys,
thanks

BUDGET RANGE: 1500 - 1800

Brand Preference if any: Any

Second hand: New or second hand will do

QWERTY keyboard: no

Keypad: Virtual

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum:

Expandable Memory: doesn't matter

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: Yes

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: doesn't matter

BUDGET RANGE: around RM2k

Brand Preference if any: Considering HTC Touch Cruise and Asus P750

Second hand: no

maximum how long ago released: no more than 1 year, shorter better

QWERTY keyboard: no

Keypad: open

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum: 3mpx or more

Expandable Memory: open

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: Yes

Gaming Type: Medium gaming (especially waiting for wifey during shopping)

Screen Resolution: Whichever better

@andrew, be wary of overseas set Diamond selling at that price, which warranty not by SIS. whether good deal or not, look at specs, look at DIamond thread.

@mcsiaw, QWERTY keyboard is that thing that slides out from under your phone and becomes a keyboard lor. u need to say yes or no for a proper recommendation since that is crucial

@eyez, your options include second hand Diamond (be wary of overseas sets with no SIS Malaysia warranty), HTC P3600i and HTC Touch Cruise. Personally all three are actually extremely good devices. U may find the battery of diamond too short a life. so have a look at cruise and P3600i. If not for my extended battery i purchased for my diamond from expansys, i'd have downgraded to Touch Cruise

their specs are similar, including build and etc. it comes down to do u prefer a hardware T9 pad or virtual on screen one. but on the whole for medium gaming i recommend the Touch Cruise, since the screen is bigger and for around the same price, it has better support from SIS.

wary of oversea diamond set ?
u mean the price different and the warranty official ?

update my requirement:

BUDGET RANGE: less than 1.5k

Brand Preference if any: consider all

Second hand: consider

QWERTY keyboard: yes

Keypad: Virtual / Hardware (most pda phones are virtual)

GPS: no

Bluetooth: not necessary

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum: not so important

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: No necessary

Front Camera: No necessary

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot

usage: mainly for portable electronic dictionary

This post has been edited by mcsiaw: Oct 1 2008, 07:04 AM

@andrew, erm, i didnt quite understand what u said. but a lot of shops say "oh warranty by us, 15 months some more!" is basically, the shop go and buy from overseas, and bring here and sell for profit. its not even considered ap since the shops which do these are all small timers. so how much warranty do u think a small timer shop will give u despite 15 months? SIS for example would give u 1 for 1 exchange! would a small timer do that? fat chance. so make sure u purchase original set from SIS Malaysia, and make sure u get the card and MAKE SURE ITS STAMPED

@mcsiaw, u shud be looking at second hand or first hand if u can find, since GPS is a no, i highly recommend the 838pro. Brand new its around your budget, second hand maybe close to 1k give or take. Its an excellent device, and one of the most solid devices available that is qwerty. Since its standard QVGA screen, almost all programs and softwares are compatible with it too.

ohh... so you wanted to warn me be-careful of seller ~
look for official distributor
original is around RM 2.8k++ , while 2nd only 1.8k++ ,
if i go , mostly go for 2nd hand,
but i need make sure the seller give the WARRANTY CARD and STAMPED ( with SIS M'sia ? )

thanks for the recommedation baronic.

i have 2 colleagues holding p3600i and touch cruise .. been playin with their pdas alot recently.. what i can see is, p3600i seems to be very responsive, much more than the touch cruise.. however the size is a bit bulky.. between this 2 devices, any shortcomings of any?

don't have the chance to play around with the diamond yet due to none of my colleagues bought it yet .

seriously contemplating getting a 2nd hand diamond from the forumers here, saw alot going for 1600 - 1800.
if i do get a diamond, where do i get the extended battery ? i know u organized a bulk sale few weeks back.

@andrew, thats right

@eyez, well, both are pretty good devices, but the Touch FLo on the Cruise slows it down just a LITTLE. but i prefer the build for Touch Cruise than P3600i, more scratch resistant cuz rubberised.

for the extended battery, there is a RUMOUR that it will be sold by SIS Malaysia, heavy price tag of around RM300. again its a rumour. u can also buy from expansys singapore. (online, shipped thru DHL, i got mine 24 hours after delivery )

BUDGET RANGE: RM1400 or below

Brand Preference if any: Any brand with available repair and service outlets in Klang valley. Prefer those that is legitimate instead of self-declare 3rd parties.

Second hand: Yes

QWERTY keyboard: No

Keypad: Prefer Hardware (something like n95 is what I would like)

GPS: Not important

Bluetooth: Yes

Wifi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: No

Camera Resolution minimum: 3.0MP (prefer with flash)

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : No

HSDPA or higher: No

Front Camera: Not important

Gaming Type: Light gaming during weekdays & Heavy Gaming during weekends

Screen Resolution: I would say screen SIZE is more important for me. The bigger the better.

Thank you in advance.

@n82110,

for services and repairs, straight will have to be HTC Devices already.

next, for keypad, and all your other specs, it narrows it down to one and only one device that i know of. The HTC Touch Dual. Have a look at it, and browse around for the price. second hand best bought from users instead of shops with balance official HTC SIS Warranty

HTC Touch Dual have wifi? Although I would like the design, but I am ok with other types like Asus P750 or Ipaq 612, with the keypad at the bottom. Just don't like the qwerty keypad because I quite often use one hand to type.

ops, yea no wifi. well, u can actually consider other PDAS, cuz PDAs actually have virtual T9 keypad. which is even bigger and better than normal phone IMHO. just no tactile feel.

on the other devices u had in mind, yes, i would recommend them, but obtaining warranty may be a problem for u.

if u can forget hard T9 hardware, and go for virtual T9 keypad on screen, it greatly widens your choices

This post has been edited by Baronic: Oct 3 2008, 09:10 PM

addition:

ull just need time to learn the virtual T9 keypad dont give up so easily. i noe peeps who just give up on their WM PDAs just coz they cant type fast as usual lol

need patience. thats all