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ilovelyn
post Jan 10 2009, 08:08 PM

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i saw some of it saying it is external..l
what does it mean by external degree??
is it better or what??
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post Jan 10 2009, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(ilovelyn @ Jan 10 2009, 08:08 PM)
i saw some of it saying it is external..l
what does it mean by external degree??
is it better or what??
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Most of the law offered here in malaysia by these private colleges are external degree.In other words, you study here(in malaysia), u get the certificates from the University they linked with.For eg, the likes of BAC and ATC are linked with University Of London llb.Which mean the certificates you get will be under University of London even though you study the whole program in Malaysia.It's the same anyway...Nothing better.

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post Jan 12 2009, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 10 2009, 08:34 PM)
Most of the law offered here in malaysia by these private colleges are external degree.In other words, you study here(in malaysia), u get the certificates from the University they linked with.For eg, the likes of BAC and ATC are linked with University Of London llb.Which mean the certificates you get will be under University of London even though you study the whole program in Malaysia.It's the same anyway...Nothing better.
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I find that arguable ....

I would say yes , it is the same , as what you covered in this program makes no different and as what solstice818 stated that the certificates you get will be under University of London even though you study the whole program in Malaysia .

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I would say no as well since the standard of it being recognised might be way way lower than those who are graduated from UCL and etc.
Besides , the pre-requisites also quite low as it needs only 2Es in A-levels. Whereas you will need AAA or AAB to get into any colleges under University of London. So , there are some differences.

However , it still depends on you . It doesn't make much different if you intend to practice in Malaysia. Singapore's Legal Qualifying don't recognise it though.

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post Jan 12 2009, 07:44 AM

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hey, registration for june exam is on the way nw..
i wan to find out and compare the exam fees for different institutes in west msia..
in my college, segi college swak the exam fees for scheme a is rm4110.60..
any difference compared to other institutes in west msia?
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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ Jan 12 2009, 07:44 AM)
hey, registration for june exam is on the way nw..
i wan to find out and compare the exam fees for different institutes in west msia..
in my college, segi college swak the exam fees for scheme a is rm4110.60..
any difference compared to other institutes in west msia?
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hmm, i dun think they'll be any difference as we r paying the exam fees to our education dept. i guess, some sort o_O
I'm also paying the same amount.
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post Jan 12 2009, 02:49 PM

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how much is the pay for the freshie??
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post Jan 12 2009, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(jhong @ Jan 12 2009, 01:29 AM)
I find that arguable ....

I would say yes , it is the same , as what you covered in this program makes no different and as what solstice818 stated that the certificates you get will be under University of London even though you study the whole program in Malaysia .

and

I would say no as well since the standard of it being recognised might be way way lower than those who are graduated from UCL and etc.
Besides , the pre-requisites also quite low as it needs only 2Es in A-levels. Whereas you will need AAA or AAB to get into any colleges under University of London. So , there are some differences.

However , it still depends on you . It doesn't make much different if you intend to practice in Malaysia. Singapore's Legal Qualifying don't recognise it though.
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a llb from kings vs a uol ext llb....no doubt the former would be more recognised and have higher regard...we are kidding ourselves if we think they're the same...


QUOTE(compunoob46 @ Jan 12 2009, 07:44 AM)
hey, registration for june exam is on the way nw..
i wan to find out and compare the exam fees for different institutes in west msia..
in my college, segi college swak the exam fees for scheme a is rm4110.60..
any difference compared to other institutes in west msia?
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i have not personally collected my forms yet from ATC KL, but according to a friend, the fees payable RM4410.60...

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so expensive man...
last year i heard is rm3900..
tis yr fees increase... it's unreasonable le..
last year the exchange rate is 6.6++ nw oni 5.5 or less..
hw come they can charge higher...
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post Jan 12 2009, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(ilovelyn @ Jan 12 2009, 02:49 PM)
how much is the pay for the freshie??
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before admitted 1k, after admitted 2-3k.
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post Jan 12 2009, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Jan 12 2009, 04:05 PM)
a llb from kings vs a uol ext llb....no doubt the former would be more recognised and have higher regard...we are kidding ourselves if we think they're the same...
i have not personally collected my forms yet from ATC KL, but according to a friend, the fees payable RM4410.60...
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it's RM4110.60 for us in the ATC PG.

they freaking increased the darn fees again, right?
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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ Jan 12 2009, 08:10 PM)
so expensive man...
last year i heard is rm3900..
tis yr fees increase... it's unreasonable le..
last year the exchange rate is 6.6++ nw oni 5.5 or less..
hw come they can charge higher...
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yes, it's ridiculous....


and sorry, my friend got it wrong, it is 4110.60, guess it's standard throughout malaysia....
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post Jan 12 2009, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(chastise @ Jan 12 2009, 08:30 PM)
before admitted 1k, after admitted 2-3k.
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admitted to what??
i dont understand..
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post Jan 12 2009, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(ilovelyn @ Jan 12 2009, 10:45 PM)
admitted to what??
i dont understand..
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CLP, perhaps?

well, heard that freshie get around 1k+ when working during CLP time.

Then after completed CLP, 2k+ smile.gif
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QUOTE(2kia @ Jan 12 2009, 08:32 PM)
it's RM4110.60 for us in the ATC PG.

they freaking increased the darn fees again, right?
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yea, fees r always increasing every year, even for the continuing registration fees sad.gif
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post Jan 13 2009, 05:44 PM

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for registration fee n continuing registration fee if it increase n exchange rate drop i dun mind..
but if exchange rate drop govt increase exam fee.. it's unreasonable le..
govt earn rm1k++ frm each student sittin for exam?
hey, come on la... no matter hw u c it.. the admin fees cant be tat high le..
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post Jan 13 2009, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ Jan 13 2009, 05:44 PM)
for registration fee n continuing registration fee if it increase n exchange rate drop i dun mind..
but if exchange rate drop govt increase exam fee.. it's unreasonable le..
govt earn rm1k++ frm each student sittin for exam?
hey, come on la... no matter hw u c it.. the admin fees cant be tat high le..
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Frankly speaking, yes, a lot of people been complaining over it that its increasing year after year and its STILL increasing.

The price will soon reach a ridiculous amount and I seriously feel sorry for those that plan to take it in future.

Even with students complained it over and over again, they still increase it... doh.gif


Added on January 13, 2009, 5:53 pm
QUOTE(2kia @ Jan 12 2009, 08:32 PM)
it's RM4110.60 for us in the ATC PG.

they freaking increased the darn fees again, right?
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It's standardize. Not only ATC PG, all over malaysia are experiencing the same crazy price.. doh.gif

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post Jan 14 2009, 08:11 PM

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Is there any way to become a lawyer in the US?
As in after degree can we still go to the US and practice?
But most of the degree programs is either done fully locally or involves a transfer to certain universities in UK or Aus,so if I've done a degree with transfer to UK/Aus can i still go to US?

I'm currently doing A levels
hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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post Jan 15 2009, 01:16 AM

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most private college or U here provides law study is in line with UK jurisdiction as it is similar( in a way la) to our local law jurisdiction.

as far as i knw ther is no US law studies provided at any institute. At the end of the day if u wish to practice at US i think it would be difficult or might not be recognised.

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post Jan 15 2009, 11:13 PM

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guys, i know to enter a (law) uni at UK.. one needs a levels. preferably. how about this alternative route to uk?

SAM pre u > degree at local private uni > twinning at UK

will it affect me that i studied aus law in pre u?
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post Jan 15 2009, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(rhapsodie @ Jan 15 2009, 11:13 PM)
guys, i know to enter a (law) uni at UK.. one needs a levels. preferably. how about this alternative route to uk?

SAM pre u > degree at local private uni > twinning at UK

will it affect me that i studied aus law in pre u?
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As far as I know, the only local PRIVATE uni that offer law is MMU and that one can twinning? laugh.gif

Not even recognized by bar YET.

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