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University Useful information for prospective law students, A basic guide to become a lawyer

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post Jan 9 2009, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 9 2009, 12:08 AM)
I m from ATC, of course I would say ATC...

Til now, ATC is holding a better(if not the best) record compared to others...but BAC is chasing up...and if u ask jhong, he probably say BAC  tongue.gif

Why dun u pay both a visit and decide urself?  thumbup.gif
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Why is that ? How would you know i will give my vote to BAC ?

Erm..well, i would say both of it have the best UOL External LLB Program .

As from what i know , BAC got a excellent notes and ATC got fantastic Chart !
If both of it combine together , it would be the best law school ever in Malaysia i think .

However , HELP is doing well for its UK transfer degree .

Yeah , ilovelyn , you should take solstice818's advise . Word doesnt speaks much .


Added on January 9, 2009, 12:53 amGuys , i am going to sit for IELTS soon in this coming 30th and 31st Jan .
5th of CNY man and i going to take a test !

Anyone here taken this test before ? Mind to share what have you gone through ?

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post Jan 9 2009, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Jan 9 2009, 05:01 AM)
there's an ielts thread somewhere. anyway, i sat for the GT IELTS in December. dun worry about it, just make sure you get alot of rest the nite before because u need to be alert and the entire test may take a long time to complete as the speaking test is done hours later that day. i was at the hall at 8am, and did my speaking test at 2pm. if you're not attending any courses or seminars for test preparation, i suggest at least getting the sample test book. if you speak english regularly, it shouldn't be a problem, though honestly, i found the reading test a lil hard...which is bad since im a law student....
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I wouldnt really worry so much in speaking test but writing and reading ....

Yes, i am not attending any courses for IELTS . Thats why i am quite worry.....

Reading is hard ? Wow...How hard is it ?



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post Jan 9 2009, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 9 2009, 09:42 AM)
Bcos I remember last time u told me the same thing  brows.gif

Good memory I have  brows.gif
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Seems like i have bad memory then ....

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post Jan 12 2009, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 10 2009, 08:34 PM)
Most of the law offered here in malaysia by these private colleges are external degree.In other words, you study here(in malaysia), u get the certificates from the University they linked with.For eg, the likes of BAC and ATC are linked with University Of London llb.Which mean the certificates you get will be under University of London even though you study the whole program in Malaysia.It's the same anyway...Nothing better.
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I find that arguable ....

I would say yes , it is the same , as what you covered in this program makes no different and as what solstice818 stated that the certificates you get will be under University of London even though you study the whole program in Malaysia .

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I would say no as well since the standard of it being recognised might be way way lower than those who are graduated from UCL and etc.
Besides , the pre-requisites also quite low as it needs only 2Es in A-levels. Whereas you will need AAA or AAB to get into any colleges under University of London. So , there are some differences.

However , it still depends on you . It doesn't make much different if you intend to practice in Malaysia. Singapore's Legal Qualifying don't recognise it though.

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post Jan 24 2009, 02:11 PM

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Yo....Finally got my A-Levels result from my college today , i got a A,B and D which means i have enough of grades to get into LLB .
Anyway, its sad that i got a D for sociology !
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post Jan 24 2009, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(enix2000 @ Jan 24 2009, 11:20 PM)
this is a very usefull thread.

i've just done my STPM n doing history bahasa malaysia n economics

i've got band 5 for my MUET

im currently waiting for my results, so whats the best result or the worse result i might get, n can get enrolled into law's course?

which college or U do u guys recommend me to go?
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Since u have taken STPM , Why not UM ???

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post Jan 25 2009, 04:34 AM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Jan 24 2009, 05:50 PM)
congrats
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LOL...Thanks ! Quite upset with the D though , but , still gotta move on !!
May need your great help in the future in my law studies .


Added on January 25, 2009, 4:41 am
QUOTE(Xziled @ Jan 25 2009, 03:43 AM)
congrats..good results wert..just ignore the D tongue.gif
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sweat.gif Ignore the D ....haha...
I shall take your advice since whatever happened , i still gotta move forward .
Anyway , Thanks !
This year is your last year ? Hope u can graduate with a 1st or 2nd upper .

As what i said , may need your great help in the future !




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post Jan 29 2009, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(ilovelyn @ Jan 29 2009, 02:36 AM)
im interested to get into UKM for law degree..
can i take a-level then apply there??
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May i ask , why UKM law ?
UM law has much better lecturer and reputation .
Well , as what i know , UM do recognise A-levels , dont know about UKM though.
For UM law , u need at least CCC to get enroll into their law programs .
Besides , u need you score a band 4 in MUET or band 6.5 in IELTS .
The hardest part i guess would be the interview part , u need to be interviewed .

Have you taken your A-levels ?


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post Jan 30 2009, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(cherriedpie @ Jan 30 2009, 04:39 PM)
I'm wondering whether it's possible to study law in university without any prior law education? I'm taking engineering subjects for my pre-U level now and I'm considering my options. Please guide, thanks.
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Pre-U as in ?
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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Jan 30 2009, 07:16 PM)
just registered for a-level in bac. but too bad only take 2 subjects because the guy there said 2 subjects will be just enough i want to take 3, but my bro said 2 will be enough, if fail one of them i kantoi. anw, if i want to take another subject what should i do? register 1 week after the class start?
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Please , dont ever take 2 , it is too risky .
I took 2 last year with the thinking that i wont fail since i nvr fail before ,haha...
I sat for AS level in NOV 2007 and got 2 passes which one of it is an "e" for sociology and a "c" for law .
When i sat for A2 levels in MAY/JUNE 2008 , I failed one subject which is sociology and that stopping me form pursue my LLB.

I was shocked and looking for solutions . There is an suggestion from my college , they advised me to resit for A2 Sociology and i almost follow their advise . However , i come across to a question . If i resit , will my A-level result be considered as 2 passes in one sitting ? No one is my college can answer that , even BAC .

I therefore made a decision to take another subject which i have confident to do it - Chinese before OCT/NOV Exams . Besides , i also took all AS+A2 together for Law and Sociology which make a total of 11 papers to make sure i will get my 2 passes in one sitting . Yes , I got to revise all those things again , ELS + Tort + COntract . I study like hell to make sure i am in the right track. I have forgotten all AS stuff and yet i have to study everything all over again . I also have to cope back Tort and Contract and A2 sociology after a holiday that last for almost 3 months. It was so suffering !!!


The results were out in last 21st Jan and i was so lucky that i finally got through , i got overall a A,Band D .

If you dont wanna get into mine situation , i strongly suggest you not to take only 2 subjects . Or you gotta have 150% of confidence to pass it .


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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Jan 31 2009, 04:00 PM)
But i already registered for only 2 subjects, if i want to register one more subject i just have to add money and tell the BAC? btw, they told me there's no more sociology class. isn't weird? but the website they still displaying the subject.
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Sociology Class has been canceled because the passing is damn low which will affect their reputation . So, they dont want their student to take it.
Just tell them what you want, and of course you have to pay extras for that. However , do notice that your fees might have already included 3 subjects , if it is , then try to talk to them so you do not need to pay for the 3rd subject.
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post Feb 1 2009, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Feb 1 2009, 03:22 PM)
that day my bro straight paid only rm 6950 for two subjects. if want to add one more subject just add in money and inform them right? then will be another 2k.
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What subjects will you taking ?
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post Feb 1 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Feb 1 2009, 08:46 PM)
Law, Economics and another one what should i take since don't have sociology?
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How about Business Studies ?


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post Feb 2 2009, 07:59 AM

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[quote=solstice818,Feb 2 2009, 03:21 AM]
Is freaking low. nod.gif


Added on February 2, 2009, 3:22 am

MMU LLB has YET to be recognized...and with the new rules, I thought even local unis had to take the BC and BE? unsure.gif

What are BC and BE ?


Added on February 2, 2009, 8:00 am[quote=solstice818,Feb 2 2009, 03:21 AM]

Never consider as one sitting...god...your lecturer should know this....
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Thank God that i dont follow their advise .....


Added on February 2, 2009, 8:03 am[quote=yanniieee,Feb 2 2009, 01:04 AM]
I thought the passing rate is very low?
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In accordance to BAC , Business Studies is a subject with high passing rate.
The counselor there even asked me to take Business Studies and finish it in 3 months .
I didnt take his advise though. haha...

How about Accounting ? English Literature ?

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post Feb 3 2009, 07:02 PM

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Anyone here know how to count CGPA for A-levels ? I took 3 subjects and i got A,B,D.

Added on February 3, 2009, 7:01 pmI've googled and get the info that :
A=4.00
B=3.00
C=2.00
D=1.00
E=0.00

What about A-level ? The grades are in the sequence of A,B,C,D,E,UNGRADED.

So, HOW ???
NEED SOMEBODY TO ENLIGHTEN ME ....



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post Feb 6 2009, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 6 2009, 12:03 PM)
1.How much would it cost for 1 year?
2.Which few uni are recommended?
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1.Cost in terms of Living Cost ? I think it needs approximately RM150K for one year in UK .
2.For me , i would recommend HELP , TAYLORS or BAC.
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QUOTE(lkliang89 @ Feb 12 2009, 05:04 PM)
thx...tat means if i study take UOL 3+0 at msia i will lost the chance to work at singapore?may i take any international license for me to work at ter?
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Well, you can work in Singapore but you cannot practice as a lawyer in Singapore .
I just took my result last month too , My result wasnt that good as yours though and im gonna take UOL external program since i dont wanna burden my family. YOu can of course apply for scholarship but i believe you know that you will be bond .

Think of it . I rather take PTPTN loan.

Btw, im now applying for LLB in University Malaya which will definitely save a lots , approximately 20k+ 4yrs.
By having LLB from UM , I can practice in S'pore.

Anyway, i dont whether i will be accepted or not though.
Wish me luck. haha.

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post Feb 16 2009, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(ilovelyn @ Feb 14 2009, 10:44 PM)
is it hard to get in into government unis??
is there any other way than taking matrix??
is it true to be a good lawyer ur level of english mus be good??
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Hard as in the entry requirements is rather high , and of course the quota thing .
You can enter to IPTA by using STPM , A-levels(for some of the programs) .

To become a lawyer , your english may not need to be as good as Shakespeare .
However ,it will helps if your English is outstanding in understanding the law .
I shall nvr say a lawyer need to be good in English which is too conclusive , but it should be satisfiable .
As long as you willing to improve , i think English level wouldn't be an obstacle for you.
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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Feb 17 2009, 05:35 PM)
lol, yea i signed up at BAC already, but only 2 subjects because my bro said don't want let me have backup and want me concentrate on that 2 subjects. yes yes, The Pines near the brickfields there, the green apartment or condo is should called =/
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Dont worry , 2subjects is fine . But, you have to make sure you really concentrate on it .
Of course , you need to make sure you get a good lecturer as well .
Or else , concentrating may not works .
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:07 PM)
Fine? Hmm, more risky in my opinion.Even if you are really concentrate with those 2 subjects, sometimes, accident might happen.For example, for the essay part, you put in wrong points and case to back and screwed up the whole thing.You are then, left with one subject...Fine?Risky I would say.
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I agree. I've given my advise on not to take only 2 subjects since i am one of the victim who took 2 subjects and failed 1 and i have to start everything all over again in 4months . But, well, she cant take it as her bro doesnt allow her to do so .

So,nevermind , maybe she can do it ? I wont deny that accident might happen though . Of course , if u ask me again on whether should someone take only 2 subjects , i would still say 3 subjects are preferable.


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