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jhong
post May 12 2012, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 07:03 PM)
But the law school building is he ugliest in the world.
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I bet you haven seen Cardiff's one. It looks more like a factory.

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post May 12 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 12 2012, 07:46 AM)
From the way JHong found out I think he could guess who I am. But let's keep it a secret.

I'm based overseas.


Added on May 12, 2012, 3:48 pm

If it's fake, they can always fake it with a serial number. The only way is to confirm with UOL.

Or try asking for the academic transcript. Though I bet even that can be faked.
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Hahaha, wow, you realised it.. smart enough ! scholar smile.gif .....thanks to my curiosity. smile.gif


Added on May 12, 2012, 11:46 pm
QUOTE(mikehwy @ May 12 2012, 03:21 AM)
hello all. i wish to ask a personal question and hope uta the right place to do so:
Q: is there a way to assess the authenticity of a LLB (hons) degree in Law of the Uni Of London external programme? i have seen one but the degree award/ cert does not come with any serial number?

i hope some friends here can help me, please. it is important to me. please advise. thanks in advance. TQ
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An authentic certificate comes with some security features like watermark, hologram and etc if you know the way to assess it.

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post May 13 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ May 13 2012, 12:36 PM)
I have a request and I hope it i not too much to ask: can any friends here post me the LLB Degree in Law, UOL pass list of students for years 1995 and 1996 please? I truly appreciate for a reply.
Thank you very much. Thanks
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I dont think it is possible as of now. May i suggest you to contact the college where the third class' senior lecturer' graduated from? For example, if he/she has a UoL degree, it is very likely that he is a graduate from ATC. However, i really dont think it is worth faking a third class certificate. The certificate that i'm having doesnt have an official seal but with a signature from Vice chancellor and hologram in a watermarked thin A4 paper.


Added on May 13, 2012, 9:24 pm
QUOTE(mikehwy @ May 13 2012, 09:09 AM)
yes sir, i fully agreed with you here. this lecturer has been faking student records and giving out pass grades to those who have not even attended the classes, for his personal financial gain, and brining his ceo shop outside for personal uses. there is a criminal breach of trust, human trafficking and alteration of academic records. i believe this is called 'frauds'?

i have not been sleeping well for a while after getting the hard evidence.

i considered an old man myself, and at times i felt tired about all these. retreating is one of my options now. needing a good holiday.

thanks to all who are reading my concern.


Added on May 13, 2012, 5:12 pmoh yes, i forgot another issue. This person also claimed that he had a Degree in Economics from Universiti Malaya. I have highly reliable sources that claimed that he was terminated after year 1 of his strudy at Universiti Malaya.

thisngs are going really wrong here.

so sorry for lashing out my frustration. sorry ...
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At the end, the result/performance speaks. This would produce only low quality graduates and the employers would know this,eventually. I have heard that many companies actually blacklisted 'SxxI' graduates due to the amount of atrocious students that they have produced over the years.

Better leave that place if you dont feel comfortable with it. My two cents.

To be frank, there are just too much of unethical behaviors in the education industry. Like me, i have witnessed quite a few of them. To go off a tangent abit, I personally only salute those lecturers who urge students to think rather than brainwashing to believe what he said.

So, @Academic lawyer: Malaysia needs you.

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post May 13 2012, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ May 13 2012, 01:34 PM)
This is the reply that i have received after requeting to purchase a pass list (1995/6): -
Dear Sir/Madam

Students records and passlists are not available to the public.

Unless you would like a verification of a student, we can do this but only with authorisation.

Kind regards

Mrs S. Deen-Yasein
Senior Transcripts Officer, Transcripts Office
University of London International Programmes
Stewart House | 32 Russell Square | London WC1B 5DN | United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0)20 7862 8549 Fax: +44 (0)20 7862 8300
Web: www.londoninternational.ac.uk

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I'm sure there are some other lecturers in the college could help you with this? There are quite a number of lecturers are UoL graduates as well.
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post Aug 4 2012, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(Dark Devon @ Aug 3 2012, 01:10 PM)
I just did my UOL exam few months back. May I know how much is the fees for the exam paper if I wish to transfer to UKT? Btw, I'm from BAC as well. Thanks. And well, from what my friend told, UKT is way easier compare to UOL which is fully external and exam based.
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Regardless of which system are they adopting, external or internal. It still depends on that particular individuals. I agree with the few examples that they raised there as i have encountered the same. Nonetheless, i have seen those second upper geniuses from UoL undermining UKT students ended up they actually dont really understand the law, a 2.2 ukt grad seems to have better understanding level. I also came across that a book prize winner (uol)asking me:" how do you even study for examination without Q&A?" As i said, it really depends.

Undoubtedly, i would think its easy to pass in UKT than in UoL. When it comes to scoring a 1st or As, it is still difficult. Perhaps academiclawyer can clarify this? hahaha


Added on August 4, 2012, 12:57 am
QUOTE(academiclawyer @ Aug 2 2012, 11:36 AM)
Wait till you try CLP.
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Speaking of CLP, i just went through hell...... sad.gif Bungkus ........

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post Aug 25 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Seb_back2back @ Aug 14 2012, 08:20 PM)
Hi guys. I was just wondering if the UK transfer program offered by BAC would allow me to practice law in Singapore.

I have opened and read the links posted here about being a 'Qualified Person', but as the program offered by BAC is not a twinning program, more of a credit transfer thing I think.

If BAC's UK Transfer Program is not recognized by the Singapore Bar, doesn't that mean anyone who holds a law degree from any university in Malaysia, regardless of whether the university is local or private, would not be able to practice law in Singapore since the Singapore Bar does not recognize the UOL External Degree either?

Thanks in advance for the comments.
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Hi, unfortunately, Singapore bar does not recognise any program done via credit transfer or externally. Neither do they recognise University Malaya being the top university in Malaysia.

Cheers.
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post Aug 30 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(partay @ Aug 17 2012, 09:50 PM)
hi guys. ive been diving in this thread for quite some time.

theres a few questions that i would like to ask. people always tell me its harder to score/pass if u r doing external uol as compared to ukt and ukt is harder to score/pass compare to exam for international students in the uk uni. is this true? i can understand the uol bit cuz its 100% exam based, but other than that is there any other cause that make it harder to score?

and also is it worthy to go into LLM if im determined to take btpc? im thinking about it because the uni im studying at dont really have very good reputation in law. or it will be a waste of money and time? its just a wild thought.

and also sheffield, queen's belfast, cardiff and manchester. which has better reputation for law? thanks in advance.

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Your friend could be right. It is hard to score but i dont think its difficult to pass. I think the study guide is the bible for UoL.

I was given some other recommendations for LLM last time when i applied to Queen Mary, University of London. You may consider UCL, LSE, Nottingham, Durham, Edinburgh. Otherwise, Manchester, Sheffield and Cardiff have almost the same reputation for law.

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post Aug 31 2012, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(partay @ Aug 30 2012, 07:57 PM)
oh, i was thinking they might have higher marking standard since its for external students.

hmm, thanks for the suggestion. but i was asking do you think its worth it to go for LLM if im certain i'll take up bptc. the only reason i wanna take up LLM is because my undergrad uni is not of such good reputation. :S
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Do you think LLM would help you in securing an offer for BPTC? If you're an UoL grad, your degree is well-recognised in the UK. In my opinion, LLM doesnt play much role in getting entrance into BPTC program so long you have a recognised law degree.
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post Sep 6 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(partay @ Sep 6 2012, 10:15 AM)
I see. That's what I thought about taking LLM as well, just needed assurance from others. Thanks. smile.gif
yeah, so long as you obtain at least second upper for your UOL here if i'm not wrong. smile.gif
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I think a second class lower will suffice.
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post Sep 11 2012, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(High hope @ Sep 11 2012, 09:25 AM)
Can anyone tell me in depth of these subjects about. Among these which subject easier for scoring?

1) conflict of law
2) commercial law
3) intellectual property
4) succession
5)Company law

**is company law very important to be a lawyer**
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Yes, i think company law is very important. Well, from the list, i would reckon commercial law.
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post Oct 10 2012, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Dark Devon @ Oct 3 2012, 12:04 PM)
haha, maybe you can try send out your application starting from large law firms to medium firms. But mostly depends on you want diverse in which category. Banking or criminal. As I know, top 5 law firms only 1 is doing criminal litigation.

Lol. I'm just a first year law student. Next year going to do my 2nd attachment at Skrine. So far I still can't get into Shearn Delamore which they are most probably one of the criminal lit. firm. Going through career fair is one of the best method to know more about the firm. Btw, you're law student from which college before this? Maybe you're my senior smile.gif
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I dont think Shearn Delamore practices on criminal law aside from white collar crime?
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post Dec 7 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(BDA @ Dec 6 2012, 05:29 AM)
Hey people.

Is anyone here currently doing their pupillage? I am and I need help with the application process.
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Need help in application? Basically just send in your CV and cover letter (if required) to the firm that you're interested?
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post Dec 23 2012, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(nate looking for help @ Dec 20 2012, 12:22 PM)
where is shizophrenic?...is he still answering any questions cuz i have a few :S
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That really depends if you have got the luck. Just PM him and see?
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post Dec 25 2012, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(High hope @ Dec 24 2012, 02:34 PM)
For those who went for interview in those big firms, what sort of interview do they conduct? Is it just normal Q&A or is there written interview as well??
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I think only ZiCo and Wong & Partners have written test. The rest should be just normal interview.
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post Mar 27 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Mar 20 2013, 04:11 AM)
Yes, it is better to PM and I will attend to it as and when I am available.

I'm sure jhong would understand. :-P
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Yes. Life as a pupil has been quite a hectic one.I cant imagine being a lawyer. However, i do think its quite challenging.
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post Apr 23 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Apr 23 2013, 12:54 PM)
Re-opened as requested.
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Wise decision ! Thanks for reopening it..... surely, this thread will continue benefiting more prospective law students n lawyers ! I was still in my A levels when I first started posting here!

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