@solstice818

OK , thank you so much for ur reply =)

ATC has done minor renovation to the campus by the way

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Added on January 20, 2012, 4:23 pmWhile am typing this am taking a break from civil procedure, terrible subj, any tips?

Hi. Does anyone study law at local uni?

Duration:
3 years to get your UOL LLB IF you do not intend to practice. CLP is a must if you want to be practicing lawyer, unless you grad from local u LLB (UM etc). If your UOL LLB add together with CLP (although normally 9 mths study, but to be considered 1 year), then eventually you will need four years to proceed for chambering. While MMU, after 4 years, you can straight away opt for chambering.

Difficulties:
UOL LLB itself is not really a big issue if you put your effort consistently. CLP itself is tough and historically, a very high failure rate, but I supposed these few years the passing rate are quite ok. Most of the students can get through in first attempt, unlike in the previous few years. MMU LLB for me is a shortcut and "immunity". And you are "guaranteed" a place for chambering irrespective your result.

Study path:
UOL programs need self-discipline while MMU should be "easier" since it is a degree granted by a local institution. UOL considered high standard for a typical Malaysian, somehow hard to score but 2(2) is achievable.

Career goal:
If you only want to become a legal consultant in commercial line (like most of the accountant did in commercial MNC), UOL is ways sufficient, so MMU LLB would be unnecessary. If you want to practice in future and affordable, then opt for MMU (omit the local university), apparently your life would be "easier"

Study mode:
MMU LLB can only be done if you can study full time, while UOL LLB is quite flexible, can be done full/part time/ distance learning.

Fees: assuming no failure in the entire study, and the minimum duration to study
UOL LLB (distance learning) = RM 18k or even lesser depends the exchange rate.
UOL LLB (part/full time) = RM40k-45k. Half of the "additional expenses" will be incurred as "tuition fees" per your choice of institution.
CLP = Additional to the above fees, around RM6K to RM8k. Depends the institution you choose.
MMU (full time) = From RM54k, exclude the resources and extra fees (different from time to time). Need not consider the CLP fees.
*Note: If you plan to study full time in UOL LLB with any institution AND CLP, then the fees would be more or less the same as MMU LLB.

Location:
UOL LLB: At your convenience (distance learning), or local institution (mostly concentrated in KL, Penang, Johor, Kuching).
MMU: Malacca ONLY. MMU LLB is not offered in Cyberjaya. *So get ready with the hostel expenses.
*If you are local KL people, then UOL LLB seems a better choice.

Recognition:
UOL LLB: Internationally recognized (International firms would understand the difficulties of UOL Degree and will recruit fresh graduate *commercial line* even you are 3rd class honours.)
MMU LLB: Arguable internationally recognized. Some MNCs still prefer the "branded" uni. Somehow is not the firm does not recognize your certification, it is about "impression" to them. Thus, compared to UOL degree holder, MMU is slightly disadvantage. But if in Malaysia, I personally think no different.
*So, UOL LLB has wider spectrum.  

Environment: **adam lee's concern.
UOL LLB: No real college life (except if you choose to study at KDU), but the numbers of students...err...
... For other college... general comment: (feel free to conclude otherwise)
a) BAC... experienced and dedicated lecturer, has good track of exam record. The notes are sufficient for exams and you need not do additional research unless you want to score first class then you have to work extra harder. Con is that BAC is too commercialize and simply about business.
b) ATC... essentially the eldest and famous law school in the nations. Good for CLP but ok for UOL. Although they are not so business-minded, but they charged the fees too high which I think it is not value for money.
*Both BAC and ATC, MANY students.
c) Mentari/Greencity... small college with few experienced teacher. Suitable for part-timer or working adult. Con is that the number of students are the exact opposite to BAC and ATC. Dont think it will last for long.
d) Crescendo... JB's only UOL law school. Education is ok, too basic. But enough for a pass or second lower.
e) KDU... can enjoy campus-life. The quality of the education is increasing and we shall expect more undergrad from this college. But, not value for money. Again, you deserve better education if you are afford to pay for it.
*All the above I conclude based on the notes, and hearings from friends and peers.
f) Distance learning... like a ship in the sea. You never know what will happen in exam / what's appear on your exam slip. haha. Either it can be HIGH.. (70-74),  TOO HIGH... (75-76) or it will be VERY LOW (40-45) if you get the concept wrong, especially land, criminal, conflict, criminology, ip.
MMU LLB: Guarantee campus-life study environment.
a) The lecturers are experienced, and students need not worry about getting surprise in final. Because what is asked in the final exams would definitely be covered by the lecturer. Therefore, I also do not know how to comment on this. As student, you may know the expectation from the examiner clearer.

Hope this helps you.

Hi. Does anyone study law at local uni?

I'm currently waiting for my SPM result and interested in choosing law in the future. But i'm in dilemma whether choosing IPTA or private law school...i prefer to go IPTA as it can be exempted to sit for CLP. so i consider to go STPM but it seems quite hard to get the law subject in UM too...as i heard it is very competitive..and the duration for STPM is also longer than a-lvls (include the time for waiting the results and intake of local uni). my main worry is if i take STPM but unable to get my first choice, it'll be like wasting my time wat...=(

so may i know more about the pathway to get enroll into the lcoal uni..eg the subject needed in STPM, the result of STPM to get the law subject and the koko marks etc..?

if private college, my first choice is ATC (if private collge, i think i gonna to choose external programme). but i prefer a campus life...and i heard that external programme is 100% depends on academic marks, students might get "surprise"at the final exam as we never know what type of question will be asked etc..sounds like if i study at small collge like ATC, my study life will be boring? in term of campus life, i consider MMU too but sounds like MMU is not that "safe"(or good choice)for me to pursue law as i heard their cert is not as good as the UOL one and it's not guaranted to get excemption of CLP permanently etc...and one college counsellor also told me that if we want to sit for CLP exam, we need to have STPM/A-level wat..foundation is not acceptable. that means if i take foundation in law at MMU, i'm not guaranted that i can be a lawyer in the future?(if the CLP is not excempted for MMU students but with the foundation i can't sit for CLP too)

May I know what's the difference between UOL and UKT( 3+0, 2+1, 1+2) program?
Thanks in advance.

1. UOL: University Of London, External Programme.

(3+0): 3 Years in UK.

2. UKT: UK Transfer Programme.

(2+1): 2 Years in Msia, 1 Year in UK.
(1+2): 1 Year in Msia, 2 Years in UK.

hushpuppiesnike : yes.

hi. i am studying bachelor of legal studies in uitm.
is it possible for me to study overseas, and to work overseas?
can someone lead me routes to there ? or it will be impossible for me?
oh yes, I am jpa scholar.

there is no way to study there? :--(

How do you define yourself? A hardworking and dedicated student who gives his all or someone who is decent but not really hardworking.

If you are the former, CLP wouldn't be a problem for you. Go for UoL
If you are the latter, advisable, pick the local route.

The UoL route:
For the UOL route, you have Few choices:
Twin or External

But you must take A Level for that.

Then you can choose in between HELP, ATC, BAC etc for your courses, be it external or twinning.

Guaranteed entry as long as you fulfil the requirements.

Pro: Cert internationally recognized with better job prospect overseas.
Cons: No tips whatsoever.Study everything, digest and wish for luck for the question to come out.

The Local Uni route:
The local uni route is like a striking a toto. Not guaranteed with thousands fighting for limited places. Matriculation, STPM and ops you might just end up getting your second choice course instead of law. What a waste of time.

Plus, recognization in international level is terrible...at least I think so. Even UM law is not recognized in Singapore. How terrible is that?

Pro: No CLP, probably comes with tipsfrom some lecturers.
Cons: Job prospect overseas LIMITED.

As for MMU,

CLP exempted, true. But subject to review every 2 years.

It is also true that foundation is not eligible for CLP sitting. Advisible take STPM/A Level if you can.

My personal advise to you is, pick what suits you best.
If you are one looking for life at campus, entertainment, etc, forget UOL, go for local uni. You might just do well here.

If you are one looking for job overseas, clearly UOL is the smarter choice.

At the end of the day, ask yourself. What you want?