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hazremi
post Jun 8 2008, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Pisanggoreng @ Jun 8 2008, 09:29 PM)
between SAF and Arsene Wenger who is more handsome?
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sacrifice trophy for sexy football?that's excuse for team without trophy.

as mentioned by mourinho,

wenger is voyeur

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post Jun 8 2008, 11:07 PM

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Lol i voted Vicente del Bosque biggrin.gif
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post Jun 9 2008, 03:03 AM

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Wenger is good at bringing those youth player and nurtured them into a great player in Arsenal, no one can argue about that, he did that because he don't have any choice, the club's finance is tight and he only got 10-20mil transfer kitty every season. btw their result is not consistency, starting season good performance, then mid season not into the par.
Ferguson, one of the greatest manager in Man Utd, he lead the team into the english top richest club, is Rome build in one days? he spending more than 10 years to reach that level.
both of them are great manager, believing own concept but result show a big difference
just my 2 cent

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post Jun 9 2008, 03:10 AM

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i dunno if it is all SAF doing but when he took over the club he did not just make sure success on the field but off it as well.

the club has world wide fame and is more famous than any club.

even makcik's know who is david beckham during his playing days with us and manchester united. if i say i'm a "red devil" in church the priest won't take me for exorcism. tongue.gif
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post Jun 9 2008, 07:17 AM

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I say any of the managers above who can coach the Malaysia national team to the next SEA Games gold medal in 2009 alone should be consider the best... notworthy.gif
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post Jun 9 2008, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(ipodunlimited @ Jun 9 2008, 07:17 AM)
I say any of the managers above who can coach the Malaysia national team to the next SEA Games gold medal in 2009 alone should be consider the best...  notworthy.gif
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quoted for truth!!! thumbup.gif haha but i think SAF rather rot at home rather than coach the pathetic bunch of coconut players...
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post Jun 9 2008, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(navilink @ Jun 9 2008, 08:17 AM)
quoted for truth!!! thumbup.gif haha but i think SAF rather rot at home rather than coach the pathetic bunch of coconut players...
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Coconut Player?

Not Potatoes Players Meh?
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post Jun 9 2008, 11:05 AM

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Too subjective ... how to compare performance between club manager and country manager? wink.gif
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post Jun 9 2008, 11:35 AM

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alex ferguson take the award for club manager. his long reign and highly successful season with manchester united speak for itself. so does his ability to produce a winning team from generation to generation.
err....he did won the uefa supercup and a few scottich title with aberdeen. won scottish 1st division title with st mirren too!

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post Jun 9 2008, 12:24 PM

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I voted for Sir Alex Ferguson not just because I am a Red Devil rclxm9.gif
He has been the very best manager at Old Trafford ever since he took over although he was almost fired for some uncanny performances in the early days.
But which manager in the Premier League has won more titles than him, for a single club ?
Just that record is enough to differentiate him from the rest.
He brought in great players like Cantona, Ronaldo and Rooney and nurtured fantastic players like Giggs, Scholes and Beckham.
I do respect Wenger for bringing in young players and making them a huge super-star in 2-3 years time but his side has too many non-English players.
As for Mourinho, yes he may be good but sometimes he blabbers too much, to the media tongue.gif
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post Jun 9 2008, 03:00 PM

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In terms of signing, hughes and harry should tops~
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post Jun 9 2008, 03:20 PM

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Well, JM won almost everything as a Chelsea manager and FC Porto manager too. Won't be surprised if he's the best in Inter hostory.
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jm didn't wnn everything with chelsea. but he does landed the euro cup with porto. his failure to bring the euro holygrail to stamford bridge with better team compared with porto cost him dearly.
grant was a near man.

still, jm is a great manager. he created that sort of aura of invincibility
at chelsea.

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post Jun 9 2008, 03:53 PM

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Results speak for themselves and I will grudgingly have to say, Alex Ferguson. I do however like Bobby Robson as well.
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sorry, maybe i joined this thread too late already..but i have to stress somthing to all those fans-of-bpl-teams voters..

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with this kind of records, i am really surprised that i am only the 4th person to vote him as the best managers..yeah maybe SAF can challenge him for this honour, becoz he has won many many many domestic league titles, but to choose JM or wenger instead of lippi, that is really illogical..
while SAF had done super-brilliantly at domestic stage, lippi has done super-brilliantly on international level..he entered 4 UCL finals and won it once, has won intercontinental cup, and he won the WORLD CUP, and any manager who won the world cup, is not only a great manager, but he is also a world's legend!!

plz think reasonably whenever u cast ur votes..maybe wikipedia.com can help u to choose more wisely after this..thank you smile.gif

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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 9 2008, 03:55 PM)
sorry, maybe i joined this thread too late already..but i have to stress somthing to all those fans-of-bpl-teams voters..

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with this kind of records, i am really surprised that i am only the 4th person to vote him as the best managers..yeah maybe SAF can challenge him for this honour, becoz he has won many many many domestic league titles, but to choose JM or wenger instead of lippi, that is really illogical..
while SAF had done super-brilliantly at domestic stage, lippi has done super-brilliantly on international level..he entered 4 UCL finals and won it once, has won intercontinental cup, and he won the WORLD CUP, and any manager who won the world cup, is not only a great manager, but he is also a world's legend!!

plz think reasonably whenever u cast ur votes..maybe wikipedia.com can help u to choose more wisely after this..thank you smile.gif
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i vote this guy too. the record says all. not from media influence.

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post Jun 9 2008, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 9 2008, 03:55 PM)
sorry, maybe i joined this thread too late already..but i have to stress somthing to all those fans-of-bpl-teams voters..

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with this kind of records, i am really surprised that i am only the 4th person to vote him as the best managers..yeah maybe SAF can challenge him for this honour, becoz he has won many many many domestic league titles, but to choose JM or wenger instead of lippi, that is really illogical..
while SAF had done super-brilliantly at domestic stage, lippi has done super-brilliantly on international level..he entered 4 UCL finals and won it once, has won intercontinental cup, and he won the WORLD CUP, and any manager who won the world cup, is not only a great manager, but he is also a world's legend!!

plz think reasonably whenever u cast ur votes..maybe wikipedia.com can help u to choose more wisely after this..thank you smile.gif
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totally agree ... great in club and country manager ... vote for him too ... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 9 2008, 04:22 PM

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Giovanni Trapattoni have a stunning record of cups won as well, which i think deserve a mention.

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One of the most winning managers in football history, he is the most successful manager in European competitions for clubs history with 7 titles in 8 finals, including the Intercontinental Cup final (mainly with Juventus F.C.). Alongside the German Udo Lattek he is the only coach to have won all three major European club titles. Also, he is the only one to have won all UEFA club competitions and the World Club title (all with the Old Lady), also having the record of UEFA Cup wins (3).
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Ha ha.... I think this thread very active..... only few days can reach more than 10 page....
I vote for AW.

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marcelo lippi won titles with juventus and italian national team while alex ferguson done it with st mirren, aberdeen and manchester united.
but winning a title with national team of course is a bonus. then again, italy does won the wc thrice before and their team always rise to the ocassion.

lets see...... lippi collected around 14 title including the wc
and ferguson easily had more than 30! brows.gif
here you go...

St.Mirren 1974–1978
Domestic competition ;
Scottish First Division:
Winner: 1976–77

Aberdeen 1978–1986
Domestic competition ;
Scottish Premier Division:
Winner: 1979–80, 1983–84, 1984–85
Scottish Cup:
Winner: 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86
Scottish League Cup:
Winner: 1985–86
Runner-up: 1978–79, 1979–80
European competition

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Winner: 1982–83
UEFA Super Cup:
Winner: 1983

Manchester United 1986–
Domestic competition;

Premier League:
Winner: 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08
Runner-up: 1994–95, 1997–98, 2005–06
Football League First Division:
Runner-up: 1987–88, 1991–92
FA Cup:
Winner: 1989–90, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
Runner-up: 1994–95, 2004–05, 2006–07
League Cup:
Winner: 1991–92, 2005–06
Runner-up: 1990–91, 1993–94, 2002–03
FA Charity/Community Shield:
Winner: 1990 (shared), 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007
Runner-up: 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004
European competition

UEFA Champions League:
Winner: 1998–99, 2007–08
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup:
Winner: 1990–91
UEFA Super Cup:
Winner: 1991
Runner-up: 1999
International competition

Intercontinental Cup:
Winner: 1999
Individual Awards

FA Premier League Manager of the Year:
1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08

giovanni trapatonni a close 2nd. he won over 20 titles with a few different clubs including bayern munich,inter, juventus and benfica. still shorts of ferguson's achievements.
lippi comes in 3rd.

wikipedia is indeed a great source. it help us refresh our memory. you do the math, dude icon_rolleyes.gif
btw, i was a mu fan since i was a kid back in the end of 89. what a coincidence! smile.gif


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