means FA / TA come to same conclusion on tis share
well, everyone entitle to their own view, as each of us in different stage of learning & experience
its good to see all sharing, so dun feel offended ya, for anyone out there reading & having different conclusion
keep an open mind

I have a simple TA belief that is :

If smart money buy, we buy.
If smart money dumps, we sell.

maybe you see better in the charts.

well, everyone has their own view, as each of us in different stage of learning & experience
but how u decipher smart money buy or sell for gpacket via TA? care to share

Generally Smart money would sell to small timers when the market is very hot and super bullish. Good chart perhaps.

Later they collect back slowly all the way down.

Then TA may call it the support line. 70, 80 or 90sen ?

Again, they would be waiting for chances for them to push up, when the small timers have all the confidence..

If not the game is over.

If buy low at support lines, you do not lose much.

But the patience ?

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Nov 17 2009, 04:48 PM

yup, in a nutshell, tat is how it works
but insiders / momo sell it on the way down
b'cos those investors (ie. kucing kurap) who miss the earlier boat ride
will think tat share is cheap at tis low price, their greed is fix on share last high price

so i never like to average down, unless got super earnings, supported by momo & is on pullback, ie. drop on low volume
but i dun have access to tis type of info in klse, so i giv klse the kick

the chance to push share up wil be very much later
all insiders need to do, is to keep price low for 6months to many years
tis will make some investors tired & sell their share for personal reason
once they accumulate enough, its time to release happy news via those newspapers or etc & suck in the kucing kurap

& thus it repeats & go on & on & on

So how you as a TA play by their games, while others play to their games ?

How you interact to make the money ? To make money without being gorenged ?

Mind to share ?

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Nov 17 2009, 05:10 PM

Until company can deliver profit and positive cashflow, there is little way to judge whether the stock is undervalued or not.
You cannot say a stock is undervalued with company registered losses and in negative cashflow and pay no div to shareholders, right?

If said stock is undervalued if/when company already manage to realise the 200k subscribers, and make profit, the only it could justify.

Although company is making projection of 200k subscribers for breakeven and making profit, there is no guarantee it succeed to do it and cost wise does not go up.

So, it is still up to anyone guess and largely depended whether company will make profit or not and turn into positive cashflow.

One thing to mention is that do take in account of potential dilution effect with private placement and right issue + warrant for EPS/profit computation issue.

aiyo, like tis need talk granma story leh...

1st, u mus be willing to lose A LOT OF $$$ to the SIFU market, sacrifice ur time to go thru the blood sweat training
keep an open mind, use trial & error to discover who u r & ur risk tolerance level
read up & put teori into practice
coz we humans r very stubborn & hav big ego
must also go thru bull & bear market
after the market humble u, then when ur bank ac stop bleeding & start earning
then u know u r in sync with the market

if not, back to square one or jus do other things (maybe best let mutual fund help u)
or learn deeply on FA, as market timing is a very difficult art (usa got tis info, but learning it was f-ing hard )
u need ask other sifu abt application of FA under/overvalue technique

i dunno abt klse nor how others play to their games, coz my training was via usa market
so not sure can apply in klse or not?
pls do note, FA has to be use in conjunction with TA
coz tat is the onli news, everyone has access to
after tat, momo hav to position themselves & guess nex quarter earnings
as long as market is 3 step forward & 1 step back, we r in uptrend

try chat with others in forum
i found the usa market forum (eg. yahoo finance), got some really willing share with u
while others talk cock & bull
ur tuition fee wil let u know which is cock & bull
once u willing see ur own faults & take step to rectify, then u r on step to progress

Thanks for all the sharings

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Nov 17 2009, 05:56 PM

no prob, the key points r in the spoiler
good luck

TQVM 4 sharing the knowledge...BTW wat is TA and momo means... Sorry 4 interrupting.

FA - fundamental analisis
TA - teknikal analisis
momo - those who have 'more money' than u & me (eg. mutual funds, hedge funds & etc)

From my personal view , it is better for you to stick to TA to US markets where the markets are term as perfect markets, cannot simply fool around.

In our markets, sadly there are many con people around.

Small timers got slaughtered often. Today and yesterday markets are just an example.

Wish you best of luck.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Nov 17 2009, 07:28 PM

i hold and buy more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

there is an etf for bolehland, called ewm
i waiting to short
since klse not in sync with world markets



thanx but dun worry abt me, i m fine
u really need more luck in tis journey
anything, can drop mesej in lyn
if hav some time, hop by lyn usa thread
lots of virgins there too & a few terer also

This post has been edited by sulifeisgreat: Nov 17 2009, 07:38 PM

Shorting Malaysia 30 stock index or linked index could be disastrous.

These are well controlled stocks ( not have to be well managed )

All our local funds , bumi , non bumi , EPF etc are controlling them.

BTW, I d not know what is EWM about.

Judge your own.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Nov 17 2009, 07:51 PM

if not mistaken
world market up, klse down
world market down, klse lagi down
once a while, shiok2, klse up itself for no apparent reason
ok la, ot liao, tis thread suppose be on gpacket onli
handing thread back to them

In the long run, luck will play a smaller part than your capability in investment results. TA players buy shares based on assumed trading behaviour and do not normally have a long time horizon.

I buy shares for different reasons for different counters. Ultimately, 3 things are most important: Net asset backing vis-a-vis market price; business model and industry; managment capability.

For the majority who do not make much money from share market over say a 10-year time frame, the share market ought to have made them better decision makers and personalities knowing how to let go and be humble.

buy 200 LOTS(x100) go go go !!!

Funny that nobody was talking about this stock when people like me and Neo were buying at RM0.60+ - I've sold all during the recent run-up btw.

As someone who's been playing this stock a looong time, I'd say be prepared to hold for the long-term. This stock fell off the radar of instituitional funds a long time ago (when it went as high as RM5+) and retail insvestors have other better penny stocks to speculate.

Gpacket is just a favourite goreng stock because it has relatively low liquidity. And you'll have to wait until these same sharks play the stock again.

P/S: forget about fundamentals. Malaysians don't trade on fundamentals, otherwise stocks like KNM would never have fallen to RM0.33!