well. worth or not. i not sure. how much they wanna sell oso i can't control.
i just manage to talk it over with some guy in perfect hifi and they supply me with old price for the bulk buy.
so i believe. in either way oso. the buyer within the bulk order won't loss. it's still the old price.

by the way. previous price before hifi show was RM 3999. i asked price for 3-4 times seriously. and i never get RM 3.7K leh... cheapest i can get ever is 3.8K
about worth or not. i seriously don't know what you mean by that.
if u are talking either the price justify the performance or not.. then that one u should make up ur mind.
imho that TOY is anytime better than a lot of bookshelve out there which is obviously higher price. that's me..
if u are talking about the price.. if u can't get any cheaper price out there with official warrenty. then i think the price offered by perfect hifi is reasonable.


This post has been edited by PcWork: Jul 31 2009, 11:25 PM

that's why i am saying. forget about last time price how much.. last time cheapest u can get RM 3.7K nett. now can get RM 3.8K nett..

if u serious about toy price. can directly place order in bulk. with non refundable deposit of RM 1000.

the deal of the TOY will make at Perfect hifi shop by arranged time.
i don't see what is the point of going out there to buy.
u get from same seller, same warrenty, reduced price. yet you still shouting that TOY is expensive.. not worth.. it's RM 5K+..
while there's one offer here to join the bulk and get RM 3.8K, from perfect hifi. through me.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Aug 1 2009, 04:42 PM

well. i am not doing it over for profit.
i am just conducting a bulk for the sake of getting lower price.
where shall i put the post?
WTS? WTBulk?
it's not even trading / commercial.

even in sennheiser thread. there's always ppl asking for price.
what does it goes wrong with that? and what's wrong if someone asked for price of TOY over sonus faber thread? just for sake of experience? lol

This post has been edited by PcWork: Aug 1 2009, 08:07 PM

well. nope i am out of it. i get nothings. yet i need to spend my time to answer ppl as if i earn a profit. lol. forget about it.
seems that my contribution of getting it at a bulk price is not so needed. so why i must offer my help?...
and it doesn't seems to have serious buyer for that over here either.
i will just proceed with what ever order i have and settle it.

well. i just confirmed that after my current batch TOY bulk order.
i myself won't be able to get the old price anymore.

well... who cares. lol...
in fact. i doubt there's any Toy would be buyer in here.

my new toy.

well.. if u look carefully. i didn't mentioned it.

i seriously doubt about that. because the TOY is currently at my place ever since theng had purchased it. theng will only pick it up when he finally got his integrated amp.
Toy comes with a LARGER ring radiated tweeter (25mm) as compared to previous concertino (19mm), and TOY comes with SMALLER mid bass driver (130mm) as compared to concertino 150mm.
krell is often used by OLD sonus faber, i can agree with that. but not the new one. because old sonus were mostly power hunger. while newer batch of sonus, no longer has thins kind of characteristic. i even driven my Concertino Domus with NAD 3020A intergrated amp (rated 25watt) and i don't quite feel it sound bad.
of course. upgrade in amp does improve the sound. but the improvement no longer as drastic as older sonus faber such as concertino home / concerto home.

so by pushing old sonus faber hard with big power amp the speaker can really help by pump out the bass amount that is surpassingly huge for the size of the speaker. due to the laid back natural of the sonus faber speaker. the sonus faber really producing amazing staging. and MOST of the sonus faber older version were running at average of 4ohm across whole frequency spectrum.

however, on my personal experience, TOY, which is rated as 8ohm average... doesn't require big power monster to push it.. (the speaker is relatively small, only slightly bigger than ProAc Tabellett). and i seriously doubt that this kind of small bookshelf can benefits from monster power amp.

IMHO. TOY best matches with warm sounding amp. to emphasize on a more balance tonal balance. Tube amp is HIGHLY recommended.

ever since the Audio research has bought over by sonus faber mother company. they are basically sister company. and more often they are using Audio research amp as reference now.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Sep 30 2009, 08:41 PM

as far as i heard. it's designed by Franco Serblin with his son in law.
after all. the big boss still him. he have to say go or no go for the product.

i had just recently acquired my third set of harmonix 909 MKI. =P

today just audit the LUITO MONITOR.
and seriously. it's one hell of superb impressive speaker.
very very transparent sound, very fast speed. very nice bass..
as i test it side by side comparison with a grand piano home (older floorstander). and the floorstander is A LOT worst than the bookshelve itself.. very very impressive.just the sound is slightly tight due to lack of run in. the luito is just on for less than 20 hours.
setup:
source - Audio analoge Paganini
Amp - Audio Analoge Verdi Gento
Cable - Nordost dunno what cable + Transparent dunno what speaker cable. but doesn't seems to be "beautiful" priced item.
and some harmonix tweaks around the room and the setup..

it's about RM 13K or slightly more, including original stand. without stand. minus about RM 2K i think.

TOY is no where can match the luito. even TOY Tower also pawned badly by the bass of the luito monitor.
the luito monitor has both speed, attack, transparencies, and WEIGHT of the sound.
the deeper part of the bass, is very well pronounced.
to my ear.
the bass of TOY VS concertino is as if concertino VS Luito.lol
the amount is can't comparable. treble energy oso very much superior compared to concertino..
Toy tower was selling for about RM11K-12K. but the luito is obviously more ex than it. RM 13K is price after discount. lol.

regarding the third set of 909 MKI. i was intended to put it for amp. but when i took it home. i found out that it gives more improvement when i place it for my RACK.
so now it's sit under my rack. amp sits on XINDAK graphite / ceramic cone.
while CDP sits on the top of the rack which has one whole pieces of MARBLE. without any cone. previously i use black diamond racing MK4 cone for it. but i found it's not quite suitable once i put harmonix 909 on the rack. so i remove the BDR MK4 cone away.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Oct 30 2009, 04:22 PM

wahlao. don't lah say like that..
i oso limited leh. if not limited i already long long time ago takes auditor M / guarneri already lol..
anyway. u and kkthen got PM. lol

there is a concertino Domus tower. called "CONCERTO DOMUS" or slightly advance model "Grand Piano Domus"

but imho. in term of overall quality. toy tower does have better sound quality. and more balance tonality.
however, both domus has better outlook than the toy tower. and both domus is MORE EXPENSIVE than toy tower. toy tower is sort of they only concentrate on the SOUND, rather than esthetic value. lol.

there's a ready stock of both concerto domus and grand piano domus AND toy tower at MPL wisma.
i might visit there by tuesday or wednesday depend on my available time. i need to visit lock smith besides the hifi shop. lol.

if u wanna drop by together. do beep me a msg.

does the price comes with full warrenty? 3 year full warrenty?
because i called perfect hifi, as they are distributor and yet their selling price is higher than that. so i worry that the toy tower doesn't cover warrenty for the price. which shop is selling that cheap? u got contact number or not? are they dealer of sonus faber?

haih... i want the 56... u know what i am talking about dude..


by the way. bro. i had stick back the velvet under 909 base. because i think it has better tonality balance.
no doubt removing the velvet has wider sound. much much more detial. but seems to have a bit bass shy,.and my room not really allow me to have flexible speaker positioning. so i am sticking it back for the mean time. =P

lol.. my setup is more than 15K already..
by the way. just to let u know. Either one of the setup u heard at hifi shop yesterday both oso cost more than 120K each set. one of the speaker is RM31K. another one is RM 25K. just speaker alone. the whole setup is more than 120K.

the white cable of enacom i connect it to +ve to my system.


overall all shall be 16 @ 17K.

WOWOWOW....
nice..
welcome to sonus faber club..


This post has been edited by PcWork: Dec 1 2009, 09:58 PM

theng: maybe it's time for u to buy a digital camera oso leh. veli blur lah the picture.. lol