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post Sep 30 2010, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Virion @ Sep 30 2010, 01:27 PM)
i have a classmate who entered TOA at the age of 30. he going to graduate by end of this year, so he's now 32. he will be working at the age of 33. i don't see any problem. i think its important that you do what you like; if you like animation then go ahead, you're welcomed. smile.gif


Added on September 30, 2010, 1:31 pm
AE, combustion those got~~ but not many classes for that. which batch are you in?

I heard the syllabus changed a lot for the juniors and you guys are going for specialization, which means you will choose either modeling/assets creation OR animation OR special effects. unlike our batch we learn everything.
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im in CD1005-1

yeh, i been hearing they revamping the syllabus too, my frens who joined one sem earlier than me say that they are having drama class now but next sem there wont be any drama class, something to do with too much credit hours or something ?

anyways, if there is specialization, im very interesting in modeling or effects xD ! currently im playing aroudn with After Effects folloeing tutorials on youtube and copilot.com and its so darn fun.

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post Sep 30 2010, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(SimBa @ Sep 29 2010, 11:49 PM)
Hiya guys ~ im currently in 2nd sem now ~ 4th week >.<

i hear alot of ppl say that TOA is dam hard and got no time do this, no time do that, this mayb true to a certain extent but seriously... its time to grow up... when u start working, u gonna have more shit thrown at you so just suck it up and keep on at it. OR as my History of Art lect says "THIS IS THE MALAYSIAN MENTALITY, THE STUPID 'BOLEH LAH' ATTITUDE THAT IS NOT GONNA GET YOU NOWHERE"- Anderson. In any profession, if ur not gonna give it ur all, ur not gonna get any better. 
I personally find it really fun and ever since i joined.. i actually hate it when there are holidays coz its so boring at home and the frens in college are friggin awesome >.< the people you will meet in TOA have proven to be all one of a kind, and fun to be with.

When i talk to my former high school frens who are studying business/medicine, they keep complaining about how much of studying they gotta do and they got no time to play, blablabla... truth be told, i was a really bad procrastinator back in High school AND i still am (a little) but in TOA as long as you put ur effort into your pieces and produce all ur work in the time allocated,... there will be no problems. I still fine loads of time to COD or L4D2 ~

another thing i keep hearing is the salary, personally i dont give a shit (excuse the language) as long as its enough to survive with a family in the future im a happy man, a happy man who enjoys what he is doing. I joined this field not to become a friggin millionaire, i joined it because i want to create, and amaze the people around me, i want people to look at what i do and say "omg, is that even possible ?". Its that glow in their eyes and smiles on their faces, that i work for. And  if ur parents are giving u that 'talk' abt how design got no hope, you turn around and tell them this.... "EVEN UR UNDERWEAR GOT SOMEONE WHO DESIGNED IT"

Phew.. that was a long ass rant, but i felt like i just had to get it off my chest. >.< sorry if i offended anyone

TOA ROX. FTW !
anyways i got some questions for the seniors. ill be majoring in digital animation. may i knwo what subjects we will be having in the coming semesters ? im just curious. i heard we will have drama class n stuff but because we are having too many credit hours. some lessons are gonna be removed ?

truth is the two thing i like are creating replicas/models (weapons/armours/figures,etc) and also filming. The big dream is to one day become a film director. Im curious if, we will be learn things like Adobe after effects ?
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whoa! rclxms.gif nice..love all ur words that is bolded..

super agree with u lo..im also in week 4 and already tonnes of assignments..research,concept,sketch bla bla bla..but im still happy to do it seriously..its busy but its productive right? much better than everyday so relax and slacking..
do more learn more..at least u can expose to that particular things more.. and yes in toa really fun..sometimes i feel doing assignments in class with all the classmates is so fun! HAHAHA

btw, im going to major in MM..i heard they said that MM got no sem3 in foundation one? only DG students need to take sem3..issit true?

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post Sep 30 2010, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(inachi @ Sep 30 2010, 08:50 PM)
whoa! rclxms.gif nice..love all ur words that is bolded..

super agree with u lo..im also in week 4 and already tonnes of assignments..research,concept,sketch bla bla bla..but im still happy to do it seriously..its busy but its productive right? much better than everyday so relax and slacking..
do more learn more..at least u can expose to that particular things more.. and yes in toa really fun..sometimes i feel doing assignments in class with all the classmates is so fun! HAHAHA

btw, im going to major in MM..i heard they said that MM got no sem3 in foundation one? only DG students need to take sem3..issit true?
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Foundations were 2 Semesters(1st and 2nd) only but I am not sure about now(currently, I'm in 3rd year already, the new syllabus might not be same), except the Interior Design(which TOA sucks at it).

All students have Semester Break except DG Students.

By the way, you guys should be happy because you're still in Foundation Stages as the stuffs you all were doing are quite simple already.
When majoring, for DG and MM, it would be hard. Then, to IL and AD. The easiest, ID(interior design).

I like the phrase that you PUT EFFORT you CAN DO IT. It almost applies on everything(but not all, for those who's new, you will encounter this rule won't apply to everything later probably).

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post Sep 30 2010, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 30 2010, 10:12 PM)
Foundations were 2 Semesters(1st and 2nd) only but I am not sure about now(currently, I'm in 3rd year already, the new syllabus might not be same), except the Interior Design(which TOA sucks at it).

All students have Semester Break except DG Students.

By the way, you guys should be happy because you're still in Foundation Stages as the stuffs you all were doing are quite simple already.
When majoring, for DG and MM, it would be hard. Then, to IL and AD. The easiest, ID(interior design).

I like the phrase that you PUT EFFORT you CAN DO IT. It almost applies on everything(but not all, for those who's new, you will encounter this rule won't apply to everything later probably).
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shh i'm an ID student!

i've been learning a lot, except for the interior history 1 and language and communication skills 1 classes. it sucks how my schedule is fixed. the lecturer recommended me to a more advanced class, but the counselors said i couldn't change ):

eric leong is awesomeeeee.

yall should go to his talk at klcc on saturday!

-tiff.
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post Sep 30 2010, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(tiffanychung14 @ Sep 30 2010, 10:19 PM)
shh i'm an ID student!

i've been learning a lot, except for the interior history 1 and language and communication skills 1 classes. it sucks how my schedule is fixed. the lecturer recommended me to a more advanced class, but the counselors said i couldn't change ):

eric leong is awesomeeeee.

yall should go to his talk at klcc on saturday!

-tiff.
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Did you ever compare what assignments and classes ID students did compared to other Majors.
Also, did you ever compare the works quality between ID and other Majors?

My housemate was Top Student for ID08X(he got awarded too, I don't want to mention details about him due to privacy), he's so sad for the class most of the time.
When he's comparing his works to his classmates and seniors. He said he's like so STRONG.
But, then, he compared with other majors, he found out something not right. He always compare my 3D and his 3D together.
Obviously, mine was better. He admitted that but I said I am not better than my classmates. LOL. He's the TOP STUDENT for the ID class but he loses to a normal quality student of DG(like me).
This directly means ID in TOA is not as good as it mentioned to be.
Why?
1.) Low benchmarking(directly make student get good result but lame works)
2.) Lack of classes(students lack of practices)
3.) Lack of good lecturers except Eric Leong(my housemate said that the lecturer also don't know much of the technical for Autodesk 3ds Max)
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 30 2010, 10:34 PM)
Did you ever compare what assignments and classes ID students did compared to other Majors.
Also, did you ever compare the works quality between ID and other Majors?

My housemate was Top Student for ID08X(he got awarded too, I don't want to mention details about him due to privacy), he's so sad for the class most of the time.
When he's comparing his works to his classmates and seniors. He said he's like so STRONG.
But, then, he compared with other majors, he found out something not right. He always compare my 3D and his 3D together.
Obviously, mine was better. He admitted that but I said I am not better than my classmates. LOL. He's the TOP STUDENT for the ID class but he loses to a normal quality student of DG(like me).
This directly means ID in TOA is not as good as it mentioned to be.
Why?
1.) Low benchmarking(directly make student get good result but lame works)
2.) Lack of classes(students lack of practices)
3.) Lack of good lecturers except Eric Leong(my housemate said that the lecturer also don't know much of the technical for Autodesk 3ds Max)
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no, i haven't bothered to compare between other majors, but i have seen some works from the other classes, and they really aren't that impressive.

our assignments can be just as time consuming as yours if we put enough effort into it. i've been hella busy, because i've been working my ass off on my projects and starting them right away, whereas the others are taking their time making the most simple and forgettable works. i know there are a lot of people in my class that are there just because they like to draw, and that's just not good enough.

i just don't appreciate you talking down on ID like this. we concentrate on different things, like lines compared to stereoscopy. i had extremely high expectations coming here, but i'm happy excelling on my own anyway. i think jason toh is a great lecturer too.

-tiff.
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post Sep 30 2010, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(tiffanychung14 @ Sep 30 2010, 10:50 PM)
no, i haven't bothered to compare between other majors, but i have seen some works from the other classes, and they really aren't that impressive.

our assignments can be just as time consuming as yours if we put enough effort into it. i've been hella busy, because i've been working my ass off on my projects and starting them right away, whereas the others are taking their time making the most simple and forgettable works. i know there are a lot of people in my class that are there just because they like to draw, and that's just not good enough.

i just don't appreciate you talking down on ID like this. we concentrate on different things, like lines compared to stereoscopy. i had extremely high expectations coming here, but i'm happy excelling on my own anyway. i think jason toh is a great lecturer too.

-tiff.
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Yea. I know, concentration on different stuffs but don't make it sounds so difference as well. My previous semester's lecturer who's graduated from DG years ago can go into ID field easily.
Moreover, we do touch your ID stuffs as well. Do you know many scenes and buildings from movies are actually 3D Modeled? It's not done by ID people but DG people instead. Can you see those details and beauty in it?
You can know a lot of these things if you attended to some DG Talks. This is for movie productions.
But, I also know that it will be different if it's for "the house that's going to be built in real life".
Thus, you need to compare sometime because those things do have similarities. smile.gif

Good grief to see you're so spirited. Don't let it goes away easily. With the high spirit you can achieve something better for sure. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

For me, ID, go to KDU. Indeed a better place. Because my one of my classmate was from KDU. His works pawn those of the TOA, IMO. Sorry.

Friendly advises, you try attach yourself with other major's students. You'll get to know a lot of things which is great for your current course. Believe it. XD tongue.gif

If you want me to shoot you more down, I can tell you 1 more thing.

Did you see TOA winning any awards in term of ID? (Answer: None and the rest of the courses are uncountable)
Or, if TOA does win, how much of it compared to others? (Answer: Too little until you don't want to know

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post Oct 1 2010, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 30 2010, 10:12 PM)
Foundations were 2 Semesters(1st and 2nd) only but I am not sure about now(currently, I'm in 3rd year already, the new syllabus might not be same), except the Interior Design(which TOA sucks at it).

All students have Semester Break except DG Students.

By the way, you guys should be happy because you're still in Foundation Stages as the stuffs you all were doing are quite simple already.
When majoring, for DG and MM, it would be hard. Then, to IL and AD. The easiest, ID(interior design).

I like the phrase that you PUT EFFORT you CAN DO IT. It almost applies on everything(but not all, for those who's new, you will encounter this rule won't apply to everything later probably).
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yeah..i asked them they said diploma got 2sems only..2sems then start our major d..

AHH..MM will be veryyyyyy hard? gosh drool.gif
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QUOTE(inachi @ Oct 1 2010, 10:22 PM)
yeah..i asked them they said diploma got 2sems only..2sems then start our major d..

AHH..MM will be veryyyyyy hard? gosh drool.gif
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It's very hard.
Usually, if you ask TOA student, the flow of hardness should be like this:

DG > MM > AD > IL > ID

DG > AD > MM > IL > ID

However, now a day, DG already spread into 2 or 3 parts for new comers/intakes.
Last time, DG Students learn everything like Modeling, Animation, Compositing/Editing and so on.
Now, not the same already. You'll be forced to choose either Modeling or Animation to proceed your course.
If you choose Modeling, means you won't touch much on the Animation and focus on the models only.
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That means they've changed the syllabus?

Man, I was expecting that DG students get to learn a whole lot of things and not just centered on something like specialisation?
Why did they do that?


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QUOTE(LZ Zach @ Oct 2 2010, 12:12 AM)
That means they've changed the syllabus?

Man, I was expecting that DG students get to learn a whole lot of things and not just centered on something like specialisation?
Why did they do that?
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Because its too difficult for one person to apprehend the complete CGI, a real production studio hire according to ability to fill designated position.
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QUOTE(3dassets @ Oct 2 2010, 12:50 AM)
Because its too difficult for one person to apprehend the complete CGI, a real production studio hire according to ability to fill designated position.
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Oh blink.gif ...

but do we still get to be exposed to all production since they might not delve further into it?
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Oct 1 2010, 10:29 PM)
It's very hard.
Usually, if you ask TOA student, the flow of hardness should be like this:

DG > MM > AD > IL > ID

DG > AD > MM > IL > ID

However, now a day, DG already spread into 2 or 3 parts for new comers/intakes.
Last time, DG Students learn everything like Modeling, Animation, Compositing/Editing and so on.
Now, not the same already. You'll be forced to choose either Modeling or Animation to proceed your course.
If you choose Modeling, means you won't touch much on the Animation and focus on the models only.

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so its better or worse? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Lukr3va @ Oct 2 2010, 01:52 PM)
so its better or worse?  sweat.gif
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There's no good or bad actually. Depending on what you want.
Because in a CGI Production, it's not 1 man show. There's a group of people who do Modeling, a group of people will do Shader, a group of people will do Concept Art, a group of people will do Animation and there's still a lot to mention. LOL.

Last time, TOA taught everything(almost) of a CGI Production to DG course. However, now, they split them into smaller details already.
While each student only focus on the one they like only. This is good in term of one will have very strong and hardcore POWAH in their specific field.
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Oct 2 2010, 02:38 PM)
There's no good or bad actually. Depending on what you want.
Because in a CGI Production, it's not 1 man show. There's a group of people who do Modeling, a group of people will do Shader, a group of people will do Concept Art, a group of people will do Animation and there's still a lot to mention. LOL.

Last time, TOA taught everything(almost) of a CGI Production to DG course. However, now, they split them into smaller details already.
While each student only focus on the one they like only. This is good in term of one will have very strong and hardcore POWAH in their specific field.
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Wow, so it's considered good for new intakers?

But still, no one has answered me if they'd actually expose us to all of the fields in animation production, just like other courses in the US?
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Oct 1 2010, 10:29 PM)
It's very hard.
Usually, if you ask TOA student, the flow of hardness should be like this:

DG > MM > AD > IL > ID

DG > AD > MM > IL > ID

However, now a day, DG already spread into 2 or 3 parts for new comers/intakes.
Last time, DG Students learn everything like Modeling, Animation, Compositing/Editing and so on.
Now, not the same already. You'll be forced to choose either Modeling or Animation to proceed your course.
If you choose Modeling, means you won't touch much on the Animation and focus on the models only.
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@inachi,
Do you want me to report you as spamming?

@LZ Zach,
It can be good but it also can be bad.
The bad side is you can't learn much things. The good side is you can more focus on the thing you want.
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Oct 3 2010, 12:28 AM)
@inachi,
Do you want me to report you as spamming?

@LZ Zach,
It can be good but it also can be bad.
The bad side is you can't learn much things. The good side is you can more focus on the thing you want.
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There is never a such thing as "you can't learn much things", I am still in the old syllabus, but that never stopped us from specializing in where our interests are and also learning beyond that. Really la, lecturers are there to guide us and help us when we face technical issues, other than that you are on your own de.

For those going through the new syllabus now, good luck la, you are officially TOA's guinea pigs. xD
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QUOTE(Xiven @ Oct 3 2010, 04:13 PM)
There is never a such thing as "you can't learn much things", I am still in the old syllabus, but that never stopped us from specializing in where our interests are and also learning beyond that. Really la, lecturers are there to guide us and help us when we face technical issues, other than that you are on your own de.

For those going through the new syllabus now, good luck la, you are officially TOA's guinea pigs. xD
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Very true. LOL.
I don't know SPECIALIZE or ALL LEARN Syllabus is better. But, new comers will be all guinea pigs. XD tongue.gif

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i am a guinea pig ... xD sem2 nia lol

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