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Ok basically in this line, or perhaps all other area. There are people who do it, and people who sell it. And believe it or not, 90% of the time, the people who sell it took most of the credit, or put it in the simple form- the people who sell it get more money than the people who do it. So... ask yourself, are you a salesman? Are you good in presenting your work to your client? Or i can say most of the time you need to bullshit. Sad but true, even though i don't like to believe it.
If u are those ppl that can do great work, but u can't talk or dont like to talk, then u will be forever a "backroom boy". The client may like your work, but most of the time the client don't even know u. What they know is XXX company doing a great job, and not YYY from XXX company is doing a great job. So in this case, if u are leaving the company due to low salary, your boss may or may not ask u to stay. And even if he do, dont expect mirical. why, because they know u are good, but the amount that he need to pay u, he may be able to hire 2 to 3 fresh-grat, and he believe he can use quantity to overcome experience. there are exception, but rare.
So if u are planning to further study in oversea, dont come back. The amount u earn is not worth spending that kind of money to study oversea. And if u work in oversea after uni, u wont feel like coming back and work here. Mostly because of the different working style, the whole big enviroment, and also the amount of money u get. So it comes down to the same question, what do u want to do? U want to settle down in oversea? How about your parents? Girlfriend? If u plan to come back, what do u want to do? Save some money in oversea and come back do business? Got a few friends did this and end up lost all their money. So here is the fact:
1) Do it only when u dont give a shit about money, family and u dont want a life.
2) Do it if u dont have to worry about money. I knew a friend who's father give him a million to start a studi after grat. god knows if he is making any money.
3) Do it if your father own a business that may need your skill, but young ppl now days dont like family business.
3) Do it only when u know that u won have to work in asia. i meant the whole asia. Including Japan & Korea.
I know it sound depress, but if u really wanna venture into this line, u need to be prepare. and i still don't encourage ppl to join this line. Unless u are in the list of what i just said. Good luck. will PM u my MSN, but i dont online everyday.
I completely agree with everything you said. Not only you need to have good skills in art, but also in communication to promote yourself. And yes, it also depends on what you wanna do with your life.
But since this is a topic regarding TOA, the moment you step foot in here, it's already like the beginning of whatever Tong said before. Classes will prolly be early in the morning, 9am or so, if you come late you'll face the consequences, and because of the assignments load, you'll literally lock youself in your room and will prolly be working till really really late or having no sleep at all, and still have to attend classes the next day.
As for me now, all I do is just my assignments. My daily life is basically go to college early in the morning, finish classes in the afternoon/evening, go back home bath and take power nap, wake up do assignments until god knows when[makan time included also la =.=]. Then repeat the same thing again. Feel like a robot. And not all the assignments are stuff I like to do, some of them I hate doing.
So yeah, this is basically the life of a TOA student.
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If he really like art & willing to give up everything for it, then what i said wont influnce his dicision. And if he listen to what i said and give up, then its better to give up now then later, which for sure he is going to face in his career. What i am telling u guys is the truth, that your lecturer may not tell u, or may not know, so that u know what u are going to face. I had meet so many fresh-grat that end up dissapointed with what they are doing, which aren't what's in their mind at the first place.
U like doing illustartion? How many illustartor are suffering now? Try go ask Stanley or other pioneer in illustartion, if u happen to know them. Stanley studio main business are not illustration any more, but doing 3D walkthrough for developer. And u can go ask him why, he will be happy to tell u. And how many 3D fresh-grat are happy to do 3D walkthrough? But thats where the main source of income. u dont wanna do it, there are 100s more studio willing to do, with even lower price. So what i am doing is not ignoring the fact that some of u like art and has the passion for it, thats great. But i am trying to tell them, when u are in the business, u may lost what u once passionate for. afetr 14 hours of work, i dont think u want to do, or have time to do what u like, or so called "Own Project".
So if u really have passion for art, u dont have to make it your career. u can work as a salesman, get home early, and do some painting or build some 3d model and have fun with it. It will make your passion stays beacause u do it because u like to do it, not somebody want u to do, and do it the way they like
I don't believe that artists are the only ones suffering in this world. Even bussinessmen can go bankrupt or many who are still in poverty. I believe every job has their pros and cons, not particularly when you become a doctor you'll bcome rich, with the growing amount of competition today, surviving WILL be difficult regardless of ones profession or job.
My dad's a businessman who owns a resort, yet he doesn't want me to enter his career line because it's difficult. And the fact that my dad has a resort doesn't immediately make my family rich, my dad is actually struggling to support me and my sister. So yeah, I hope you get my point.
This post has been edited by Xiven: May 27 2008, 05:05 PM 
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