Don't mind them .. There's thousand of 'em in this forum .. Just because those ah beng who blind them with HID .. They hate all HID user..
It is like one brand failed them .. They hate all the brand's product..

Note : I'm no HID user and I hate those Ah beng too but please use brain when flaming

This post has been edited by Amedion: May 11 2008, 01:02 PM

If you feel you conform to the rules then fight it out in the courts. Stand fast on your rights! The technicalities were not written in the summons means you are given the leeway to fight in court, by questioning the technicalities of the light in question and show how incompetent the officers writing it.

I wish to fight in the court also but it will definitely eat my time...

5k HID will already wrong. manufacture hid NEVER GET FINED unless u change ur HID.

like my friends integra, At kl dunno where stop by JPJ, and JPJ insist to fine him and he said give him summons and sue them back.

because the jpj dont wanna listen to him that the original. 100 police i think only 10 police can write summon rite and only whcih original car have HID light. the rest all i think they dunno.

so turn out my friend fight for it. like how i dunno. turn out now he got a paper that can shown to the police once he got stop by complain his HID.

for after market. u wan to fight? about HID? please dont. i think is the best. because u mod it and already there have a rules they not support HID. so is useless.

HID AND XEON is hurt , but i see the merz they using BION. colourful plus not hurt eyes haha get BIon ten

why can use below 5k HID. because the hid once reach to the temp the buld itself will turn into yellow. plus i think all the manufacture car they also using below 5k.

because last time i used to drive audi a4, my car it gets yellow once u long drive.

i really dun get 1 thing...if let say gov dun wan us to use HID, they must at 1st stop all aftermarket HID manufacturers like Borsch, OSram, phillips from selling it...if its illegal on the road den y gov dun ban it from selling?

its kinda ridiculous and its just like gov dun wan ppl to take drug and at the same time let drug pusher to sell drugs....

if gov gonna curb HIDs, they SHOULD at FIRST stop manufacturers from SELLING HIDs in the market...and they DIN state clearly that wut type of lamp is illegal and wut color temp....its a failure that the gov failed to synchronize everythin up to link between the JPJ law and the police out-of-date knowledge in law....

if HIDs is widely available in the market (not underground black market), even in Lowyat.net garage sales, dun blame road users on installing it in their cars....no sellers, den of coz no buyers coz road users are not well informed of the rules and regulations available, plus HID is so common now, even merely 200bucks u can get 1 install in ur ride....

they instead of blaming on their failure in law administration, they blame on road users...wut about sellers that earned alot from the sales of HID? DO they really know that wut they are selling are illegal? if only stock HIDs are allow, they should only sell HIDs as factory replacement, not aftermarket....(for example alat ganti for camry or civic, not available for other rides which have no factory fitted HID)

dude... they not drugs. they cant stop. they import those thing come in they earn money, they have no rite to stop people import this thing come in. unless there have a rules CANNOT SELLS

example. goverment already said dont smoke. bad for health in the cigarette box but then still people buy, so means if u smoke until u dead so is ur problem cuz they arleady said is bad for health.

so got wat i meanin for this example?

if really insist to rules everything i dont think we can mod a shit.

ALL IS ABOUT MONEY! importin come in goverment earn moneys.

if they stop everything they dont earn money. so come around goes around this cannot there cannot but still how come available because they can earn money. that why!

summon u , they earn money also. makan rasuah they earn money also. so all everything is goverment earn money!



This post has been edited by bizzy: May 11 2008, 01:46 PM

haha, padam muka.
got yellow light dont use, want to use white light, annoying ah beng.

dude, u have to differentiate between discouraged and disallowed, gov DISCOURAGE smoking, thats y they dun compound ppl for smoking, of coz cigarette is available widely...but now they said they wanna disallow HID, it means they are gonna compound u for using it, it means illegal, y are sellers still be allowed to sell? thats the obvious difference...

but some how all about money, no matter is allowed or not allowed or discourage or not discourage.

1st settle the summons 2nd ignore it.

2nd way

1st ask lawyer about this issues 2nd see wat ur lawyer said about it
3rd sue them or no need.

that simple to confirm which step u should do.

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Added on May 11, 2008, 1:56 pm save ur post and stop flammin people la. kns ...

This post has been edited by bizzy: May 11 2008, 01:56 PM

you do not have to attend the court session, there will be hundreds of cases and do u think that they will really listen to u? i doubt tat n i did not even attend.

it's jus something where they wan to make the summons look 'bigger' n they are 'doing' something in which they did not. so jus pay the summons n if u have the balls, report a complaint. jus forget the court...

Yupz..the AP I meant was that reconds~

Well, dun simply flame.. Proton Waja do have JPJ Approved HID~

To TS, the July deadline is for all aftermarket HID users to revert back to normal halogen lights.. It does not mean that the law is not yet enforced, juz that JPJ give time..
Well, juz go to court to argue is you're not happy with what has happened.. Pls keep us posted bout the results ya~

ok...thanks for the advice...i think i'll pay that branch a visit and convert that paper to summon...

it is supposed to be notice according to JPJ and no summons (B4 july), but anyways, i'll pay that branch a visit and see what will they issue...i cant really argue anythin wid em coz they are 'telor' (the law)...they say i'm wrong wut can i do? i wan no fuss...sigh....

This post has been edited by gstrapinuse: May 11 2008, 02:15 PM

by arguing here..you wouldnt get ur court order retract...no point argue in here anymore..u r just trying to comfort urself in here...even if we say..ya..no need worry..u will feel relief and end up paying more fine becos u lose in the court~?

go get a lawyer and discuss with him/her is better than wasting time in here and get flame~

just my 2 cents....so for those who still want to install HID..get ready for summon like what TS having now...unless u pay kopi $$

well
i dono XEON but i know XENON
so as for BION, i only know merz n bmw those cars using BI-XENON

sell, have, install, use HID is not wrong.
it become wrong when u glare other driver eye (by installing them at ur normal lamp(?)).
if u use it on ur "highbeam", then nothing wrong.
it same like u on your highbeam when got other car infront of your car.
then that also become wrong too.

This post has been edited by xeratos_85: May 11 2008, 07:50 PM

conclusion is..

if you change your headlamp to HID from halogen type..police can give you a compound.
Stock standard HID for high end car is fitted properly and gone through experiment to ensure it will not pose danger to other road users.

I think you just bring that compound to police station and pay. They dont have micro down their description. using white HID even not that glaring is wrong too.

look at this:
this is what i kena last year:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/663141/+500#
exactly same like yours
refer to page 26, post #505

solution:
pay earlier and get out of trouble
as easy as ABC

This post has been edited by andyjyneo: May 11 2008, 09:33 PM

they are fitted nicely while urs is glaring as stated in the summon

Yeah if you have a choice to pay earlier rather than wrangle yourself out of court, do the former.

how much is the summon?how much u paid?